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This game sucks.
Played for a week now and if you like to stay competitive and grow at least as fast as the other guy, you need 2 things:
1- Everyday, remake 2 new character just to get the tutorial mission's 400k value ship (takes 1h-1h30 to get about 500k-600k total loot, which is much more than anything you'll get otherwise due to ammo cost for missions etc.).
2- Play a 2nd account to get the most out of industrial and combat, making 1 account only puts you at large disadvantage compare to anyone who plays on 2.
And even if you don't care about staying competitive and just want to have "fun", you should know that you'll just have to keep grinding the same missions a dozain time before having something new to do. Sure you can do other missions but you'll end up having to redo all the same if you wish to do harder/new ones.
No matter if you like this or not, or think I'm trolling, those are my 2 cents.
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Never done a mission besides the tutorial ones for the first bot. Hence in pve I made 700k in hour on kernels with the bot I got from tutorial and ammo I bought, saved up for 2m worth assault bot and now farming spot (not mission) which makes 1m per hour and drops stuff worth 1-1,5m like each 20 minutes.
A hint for your: Roam more, the area around the newbie zone is for farming the first day only...
tip n2: Join some good corp with common aims.
Even though i'm not ranting and raving about this game (not really my thing) i can understand who it was designed for and how it works, i can also appreciate how brilliant it is. I think you've just missed the point
It's a SandBox.
Pretty sure both the main 'issues' you list can be fixed by simply joining a corporation. I'm too casual so not really going to carry on with PO, it does require a lot of 'work', as opposed to 'fun' when progressing your char. However, making a thread 'This game sucks' is completely unwarranted, childish and ignorant.
For me, i think SWG pre-nge was the first and last 'sandbox' i think ill ever enjoy (more a mixture of both theme-park and sandbox, the best mix imo). I just don't think im geared for the complete sand-box style, i'd like to be, just don't have the ability to maintain a constant focus on long-term goals when i have real life goals/jobs fulfilling that part of my personality.
You are incorrect. This might have been true, but you now will lose two days worth of EP if you delete a character. So you can not just do this anymore. Two days worth of EP is sitll worth more then 500-600K worth of loot. About having two accounst. I do not believe you right there. You would need to work with other though to get to your full potential.
However this game is not for everyone. From what I gather is that they want to follow a EvE like development cycle. Starting small and growing bigger and bigger. The content right now is rather limited though you are right. The game has potential and it's worth the 8 dollars.
Or you can just go find yourself a spot and grind kernels and transport them in a fast mech to a beta terminal for double the payout.
Secondly, (1) will not be possible in 2 days. So there are many ways of making cash if you need it. Transport missions in a Sequer yield awesome amounts.
2. I'll agree here its great to have a second account. But really you can't say: 1 combat and 1 industrial, because that doesn't cut it either. You need a dedicated miner, dedicated crafter, dedicated refiner/recycler to be honest if you want the most bang for your and boost early on. Then again, join a corporation and I'm sure you can be a combat character that will be able to be helped by your corporation with AMMO and new mechs.
if you want to delete this chars u will lose 2880 EP only a less inteligent person will do that and also you only gain 1440 EP per day
if you delete 2 chars one day is 5760 and you dont have the EP to do that
also OP are you sure u dint got trolled ? did you test this yourself ?
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My response in red above. I understand you dont like the game, however your bad decisions/choices ingame dont make it bad for everybody. My experience couldnt be any more different. So much so it could be two different games, our opinions are so vastly different. Perpetuum is without doubt the best mmo i have played since SWG beta.
Solo play sucks lol
What I read was "I didn't really understand how to play PO, sandbox games are not my thing, no one else should like this game either"
But I don't think this game really sucks.
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Well for the 10 bucks I spent on this game it was well worth it! I still can't believe this one slipped by me.
Anyways..
Not everyone plays the same game the same way, especially this being a sandbox and not a theme park mmo.
Sandbox mmo's require a lot of time and commitment, there really is no short term gratification.
To me, its all about the long term commitment that will define the game for me and just having fun day by day when I log on, whether for 1 hour or six plus+
PoliceHQ, who's your character in the game, just wondering.
About the missions, sure, you'll be doing lots of missions to gain reputation to gain access to better missions with better rewards and better facilities like a Recycling Plant, Refinery and so on, but every MMO out there does the same thing, so it's hardly a con. At least in Perpetuum, if you are to grind the same mission over and over, it will eventually stop being offered to you and you'll have to choose other missions. I basically alternate missions so this doesn't happen, and getting rep gain to use Level 2 missions/facilities doesn't take that long considering the benefits it brings.
Also, I played EVE Online for 3 years without a second account and I stayed competitive. The same will apply to Perpetuum, I have no interest in a second account, I see no reason for a second account when everything can be done with a single account, and it gets especially easier when you have found a good corporation/friends to help haul your stuff or back you up with remote armour repairers etc.
Hmm.. I've never heard of this.. how and why should i pay this EP if I'm deleting a character? I made 3 characters already just to test things, now I should not delete them? Will I get a warning that it would cost me EP if I do so?
Nope he said nothing like that. But it is true that one needs two accounts to take full advantage of perpetuum.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
ok, I have found the answer to my question above. Interesting solution to prevent the exploit of making new characters over and over..I think there could have been a better way to do it.
We're always open for better ideas and listen to the community so if you know of a better way please share it
Actually my issue is only that I did not know about this, Players unlikely will make new characters in the game unless they are up to something bad
But new people will not read the old patch notes and if it's written elsewhere I missed it. I assume there is a well noticable warning when deleting characters, if not then there should be. I too was tempted to run the tutorials many times, haven't done it yet and now that i know this it is unlikely that I will.
(( oh, and nice to see this kind of answers from the Devs
))
The character delete EP penalty is not in effect yet, that's why there's no warning. It will be in tomorrows patch.
Oh dear did someone just make an ass of themselves? I think so....
In eve you can have your chars on same account advance without gimping one another in perpetuum its impossible
EVE, Pereptuum or any other game work the same - you can 'improve' your character one at a time only.
How is Perpetuum 'gimping' your characters and EVE does not?
plz dont enlighten clueless ppl, they are easy to kill if stay clueless
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Two accounts needed to stay competitive? Having more than one account can really be advantageous in many MMOs right now but that does not mean it is required in order to stay "competitive".
Perpetuum Online is not a solo game. Its a sandbox. its created for people who want to log into the game make their own goals and work on them. It doesn't have quests and NPCs with explamation signs above their heads. You don't mash buttons to win. This game only just released. Its like a little baby, making its first steps. And its very precious time to be with that baby and not miss those first steps. Its a great time for opportunities in PO while economy is in its infancy, market expanding little by little, many items haven't been produced yet.
Its time for claiming your own place in history of this game's advancement. But again, PO is a niche game. If you like sandbox type of games - PO is a good choice to try,. But if you are used to games like WoW where everything is done for you - PO won't be fun for you. Even if you are a casual player you can still find fun in PO. It will just take a little longer to become what you wanna be.
At the stage that PO is in now people are building their capital. A lot of mining is being done, a lot of factories are producing bots and mechs, here and there you can see battles take place. There are very few people who can actualy drive mechs and even less who can drive heavy mechs. Give this game a year or so and it will be much more fun to play. And you definitely need to be a member of Corporation, otherwise this game feels like a grind, since there is nothing to do on PvE side but grind missions. This is Corp versus Corp game.
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Well said.
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So the design is pretty much straight up EVE? Nothing to make it stand out from that game except for that it is ground based? WASD controls were indeed a good news, but I am doubting wheter to try this game or not as I never managed to get into EVE although I wanted to. The idea behind it is simply epic, but mining only as the mean profitable way to make money is just meh.
So if I could not endure the everlasting mining sessions on EVE, does that mean I will not enjoy this? It seems really interesting otherwise...
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I have seen this post verbatim in one or two other threads...possibly more. It's literally copied and pasted.
* You lose EP for every character you delete.
* "Staying Competitive" doesn't really make sense, since you're working in a corporation. If you want to go it solo this advice would make sense but you're missing pretty much the whole point of the game if you do this.
* Beyond the tutorial/training missions, missions are unnecessary. Join a corp and find out what they need - combat or industrial. Then start doing it.
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