I honestly dont understand this guys gripe, it just doesnt make sense.
His gripe is that he has to buy all expansions plus vanilla in order to play instead of just buying the new expansion which should have had all previous stuff included.
I honestly dont understand this guys gripe, it just doesnt make sense.
His gripe is that he has to buy all expansions plus vanilla in order to play instead of just buying the new expansion which should have had all previous stuff included.
I totaly understand the point of view.
Why would you want to purchase all the games and expansions just to enjoy the final product, and still pay 15$/month, plain stupid!
Guild Wars 2 has the perfect model. You pay JUST for the content you get, no monthlee fee. Makes more sense to me! (ONE OR THE OTHER)
I honestly dont understand this guys gripe, it just doesnt make sense.
His gripe is that he has to buy all expansions plus vanilla in order to play instead of just buying the new expansion which should have had all previous stuff included.
I totaly understand the point of view.
Why would you want to purchase all the games and expansions just to enjoy the final product, and still pay 15$/month, plain stupid!
Guild Wars 2 has the perfect model. You pay JUST for the content you get, no monthlee fee. Makes more sense to me! (ONE OR THE OTHER)
Exactly what Blizzard needs to do. Whenever they come out with an Xpac it should be priced at 49.99 and include all previous content. Why they dont switch to this model is beyond ridiculous. I guess they love churning out game boxes and serial codes, because in the end all you need is the 4 keys + the newest client.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I honestly dont understand this guys gripe, it just doesnt make sense.
His gripe is that he has to buy all expansions plus vanilla in order to play instead of just buying the new expansion which should have had all previous stuff included.
If they did that they would most likely price it higher and why would you want to pay more if you already have all the previous content?And it also wouldnt be very fair to all those that paid for all previous content to just give it away to those who purchase the next expansion.
If they did that they would most likely price it higher and why would you want to pay more if you already have all the previous content?And it also wouldnt be very fair to all those that paid for all previous content to just give it away to those who purchase the next expansion.
What if he/she didn't have it and was new and wanted to play the new expansion without buying previous versions? Besides thay could make a disk to contain those previous content and still price it reasonable.
I honestly dont understand this guys gripe, it just doesnt make sense.
His gripe is that he has to buy all expansions plus vanilla in order to play instead of just buying the new expansion which should have had all previous stuff included.
If they did that they would most likely price it higher and why would you want to pay more if you already have all the previous content?And it also wouldnt be very fair to all those that paid for all previous content to just give it away to those who purchase the next expansion.
Companies already do this. They sell expansion versions of the game at one pricepoint - they sell upgrade versions at another pricepoint.
For those that missed out on the $60 sale, they are looking at $120-130 to get into WoW.
Cata is not worth $40. WoW is definitely not worth $120-130.
It is funny, because I did not feel this way when BC was coming out - did not feel this way when LK was coming out. Cata though? Lol, please...
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
I honestly dont understand this guys gripe, it just doesnt make sense.
His gripe is that he has to buy all expansions plus vanilla in order to play instead of just buying the new expansion which should have had all previous stuff included.
If they did that they would most likely price it higher and why would you want to pay more if you already have all the previous content?And it also wouldnt be very fair to all those that paid for all previous content to just give it away to those who purchase the next expansion.
It's fair to make one pay $120 right away? At least we bought it during a long time frame.
Don't get it why they went with their old prices again. It makes no sense. Those who want to play wow already bought the past expansions and the vanilla. What is left now, are those in the fence and the new peoples that don't know wtf mmos are. $100 and sub will be a big turnoff for many new customers.
I can honestly say in the history of expansion style MMO's I have never had to buy an older xpack to play content from a newer. I've always just been neglected the content from the older package.
EQ, DAOC, Ultima Online, City of heros/villians. They all did this. I like choices. I have no interest in playing any content from Wrath of the Lich King. So why am I being pigeon holed?
Why break tradition. Was it strictly a monetary reason? Is ~$150 Million a month not enough money? Perhaps a coding reason. This I can understand. The fact I'm one person stuck in this situation means there are others.
So why? I honestly want to know why I wasted my money on a game I can't play.
How do you plan to play a level 80-85 game, without a level 80 character? It says clearly on the box (lower left hand side) that it requires Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Liche King.
Hopefully someone already said this, but I will go ahead and reinforce it.
You are buying added content and progression. You start by buying the base game for 20 bucks get a month free with that. The next month when you hit 60 buy TBC, but wait... you say you are a fast leveler, no problem, buy the battle chest for 30, or as low as 15 on ebay that should hold you for a month, if not the new battle chest that includes WoTLK should be coming soon at most likely a 40 USD price mark.
Now basically what I am saying is yea, its not totally cheap, and they could do a better deal, but if you are really on the edge, do the trial and buy them like mentioned above or wait for the newer battle chest. Its not THAT expensive.
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I honestly dont understand this guys gripe, it just doesnt make sense.
His gripe is that he has to buy all expansions plus vanilla in order to play instead of just buying the new expansion which should have had all previous stuff included.
If they did that they would most likely price it higher and why would you want to pay more if you already have all the previous content?And it also wouldnt be very fair to all those that paid for all previous content to just give it away to those who purchase the next expansion.
Companies already do this. They sell expansion versions of the game at one pricepoint - they sell upgrade versions at another pricepoint.
For those that missed out on the $60 sale, they are looking at $120-130 to get into WoW.
Cata is not worth $40. WoW is definitely not worth $120-130.
It is funny, because I did not feel this way when BC was coming out - did not feel this way when LK was coming out. Cata though? Lol, please...
1)if you are "just" getting into WOW you dont need to buy everything I think you people are just looking for stuff to piss and moan over.
WOW-$10 TBC-$20 WotLK-$20 Cata $40 that is $90 dollars for all and that is just from going to one site to look and the Holidays are coming so I am sure there will be even more sales at other outlets.
1. Why did I not grab Wotlk when it was on sale for $10? I work for a living.
And as it has been reinforced. That was a temp pricing. I would have loved to brag it. BUT I never knew blizzard had this set up.
2. This is the only game in the existance of MMO's that makes you buy every expack to play their newest one. As I said I'd rather skip an expantion and forgot content. That have to buy something I don't need.
3. I own Vanilla and TBC. I just really don't want Wolk. I don't like buying something I won't be able to enjoy seeing as Cataclysm is out now.
From what I see of everyones Ideas and suggestions its clearly a money grubbing buisness model made by Activision.
I should have made a bet on that one.
4. By the time I saw the "warning" stickers I had already bought it and was in my car heading home this morning. Irrelavent info. Seeing as this is STILL a shitt buisness model.
Looking for stuff to piss and moan over? LoL, Every time an expansion is released it should include the original and be playable, end of story. it's ridiculous.
So I pay to play. I have to buy expansions to play newer ones. AND on top of all that, there is an item shop.
I still can't see how p2p is a better deal than f2p. Forcing you to buy an expansion is just as bad as pay to win. Except that BOTH versions have cash shops, and only one has a monthly fee.
No matter how you justify it, this ploy is simply to get more money.
I can honestly say in the history of expansion style MMO's I have never had to buy an older xpack to play content from a newer. I've always just been neglected the content from the older package.
EQ, DAOC, Ultima Online, City of heros/villians. They all did this. I like choices. I have no interest in playing any content from Wrath of the Lich King. So why am I being pigeon holed?
Why break tradition. Was it strictly a monetary reason? Is ~$150 Million a month not enough money? Perhaps a coding reason. This I can understand. The fact I'm one person stuck in this situation means there are others.
So why? I honestly want to know why I wasted my money on a game I can't play.
I never understood why you have to get the previous expansion on WoW to play the newer one (and Cata doesn't even sound like it's really worth it's money ).
FFXI i.e. you can get to the highest level without getting the newest expansion, it was optional, many of my guild members even had the fourth expansion and played it just fine. Also SE included all expansions in an ultimate Edition for a very cheap price tag.
Blizzard should earn enough through the monthly fees .. and it kinda sounds like a rip off imo <.<"
But damn.. I'd love to try Cata if i didn't need to buy WotLk
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Really... The whole set of old expansions is $5 and $10. Kinda moot.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
I honestly dont understand this guys gripe, it just doesnt make sense.
Not anymore. As I see in battle.net wow vanilla and the other xpacks are at their old prices again. Guess that great deal was temporary.
Not now it's not.
His gripe is that he has to buy all expansions plus vanilla in order to play instead of just buying the new expansion which should have had all previous stuff included.
I totaly understand the point of view.
Why would you want to purchase all the games and expansions just to enjoy the final product, and still pay 15$/month, plain stupid!
Guild Wars 2 has the perfect model. You pay JUST for the content you get, no monthlee fee. Makes more sense to me! (ONE OR THE OTHER)
https://i.imgur.com/Dc8dU3M.png
Exactly what Blizzard needs to do. Whenever they come out with an Xpac it should be priced at 49.99 and include all previous content. Why they dont switch to this model is beyond ridiculous. I guess they love churning out game boxes and serial codes, because in the end all you need is the 4 keys + the newest client.
At the very least they need to create a "full" version that has all the content for one price, even if its like 69.99 or something.
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Yep, $60 for a new player - great deal. $130 for a new player...when the 1-80 content is pretty moot - lol, retarded ripoff.
Wait, you can get the Battlechest which includes Vanilla/BC and save $9.99... so $120. Still a ripoff.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
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If they did that they would most likely price it higher and why would you want to pay more if you already have all the previous content?And it also wouldnt be very fair to all those that paid for all previous content to just give it away to those who purchase the next expansion.
What if he/she didn't have it and was new and wanted to play the new expansion without buying previous versions? Besides thay could make a disk to contain those previous content and still price it reasonable.
Companies already do this. They sell expansion versions of the game at one pricepoint - they sell upgrade versions at another pricepoint.
For those that missed out on the $60 sale, they are looking at $120-130 to get into WoW.
Cata is not worth $40. WoW is definitely not worth $120-130.
It is funny, because I did not feel this way when BC was coming out - did not feel this way when LK was coming out. Cata though? Lol, please...
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
It's fair to make one pay $120 right away? At least we bought it during a long time frame.
Don't get it why they went with their old prices again. It makes no sense. Those who want to play wow already bought the past expansions and the vanilla. What is left now, are those in the fence and the new peoples that don't know wtf mmos are. $100 and sub will be a big turnoff for many new customers.
How do you plan to play a level 80-85 game, without a level 80 character? It says clearly on the box (lower left hand side) that it requires Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Liche King.
Hopefully someone already said this, but I will go ahead and reinforce it.
You are buying added content and progression. You start by buying the base game for 20 bucks get a month free with that. The next month when you hit 60 buy TBC, but wait... you say you are a fast leveler, no problem, buy the battle chest for 30, or as low as 15 on ebay that should hold you for a month, if not the new battle chest that includes WoTLK should be coming soon at most likely a 40 USD price mark.
Now basically what I am saying is yea, its not totally cheap, and they could do a better deal, but if you are really on the edge, do the trial and buy them like mentioned above or wait for the newer battle chest. Its not THAT expensive.
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1)if you are "just" getting into WOW you dont need to buy everything I think you people are just looking for stuff to piss and moan over.
The original box is 10 dollars at Best Buy- if you are just starting WoW the only reason to buy everything up to cataclysm is to play as the 2 new races and at this moment you can get at best buy:http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=8CCA21B34C4F61F94DA2ED71FC6E0F3B.bbolsp-app04-05?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=718770720090649185&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=world+of+warcraft&sc=gameToySP&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=Games+%26+Toys&ks=960
WOW-$10 TBC-$20 WotLK-$20 Cata $40 that is $90 dollars for all and that is just from going to one site to look and the Holidays are coming so I am sure there will be even more sales at other outlets.
1. Why did I not grab Wotlk when it was on sale for $10? I work for a living.
And as it has been reinforced. That was a temp pricing. I would have loved to brag it. BUT I never knew blizzard had this set up.
2. This is the only game in the existance of MMO's that makes you buy every expack to play their newest one. As I said I'd rather skip an expantion and forgot content. That have to buy something I don't need.
3. I own Vanilla and TBC. I just really don't want Wolk. I don't like buying something I won't be able to enjoy seeing as Cataclysm is out now.
From what I see of everyones Ideas and suggestions its clearly a money grubbing buisness model made by Activision.
I should have made a bet on that one.
4. By the time I saw the "warning" stickers I had already bought it and was in my car heading home this morning. Irrelavent info. Seeing as this is STILL a shitt buisness model.
Looking for stuff to piss and moan over? LoL, Every time an expansion is released it should include the original and be playable, end of story. it's ridiculous.
So I pay to play. I have to buy expansions to play newer ones. AND on top of all that, there is an item shop.
I still can't see how p2p is a better deal than f2p. Forcing you to buy an expansion is just as bad as pay to win. Except that BOTH versions have cash shops, and only one has a monthly fee.
No matter how you justify it, this ploy is simply to get more money.
Eh....all this talk about new content and higher levels...
The only reason I bought cata was for the goblins. I've never made it to max level in an MMORPG.
Money.
Duh.
Welcome to real life.
I never understood why you have to get the previous expansion on WoW to play the newer one (and Cata doesn't even sound like it's really worth it's money
).
FFXI i.e. you can get to the highest level without getting the newest expansion, it was optional, many of my guild members even had the fourth expansion and played it just fine. Also SE included all expansions in an ultimate Edition for a very cheap price tag.
Blizzard should earn enough through the monthly fees .. and it kinda sounds like a rip off imo <.<"
But damn.. I'd love to try Cata if i didn't need to buy WotLk
The only reason I'd buy Cata would be to make a Worgen Druid. If and when I get to level 60, then I'd think about getting the other expansions.
So, are TBC and WotLK required to start a new Worgen Druid and bring him to level 60?