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To people who actually play MO, how good is it?
LordMiz
Member Posts: 60
I bought the game the day it came out, alas no game cards available yet and it is still behind WoW of games that i will install next after i reach lvl 50 in CoH, so it will be a while b4 i play it. So what am i missing? How is the action, how is the content, lag, in-game graphics, etc etc? This game has been flamed by almost every1 i know, although i will reserve judgement until i play it. 
So let me know how it is plz, PCgamer review didnt give me too much, need the BETA testers to let me in on it, lol.
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It's a good game... I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I love the live events - which are scheduled quite regularly. The missions can be a bit tedious to grind through, because there's not a lot of variety in them. There's a good variety of items, great community, and great combat and PvP... I finally don't mind dying in PvP.
What I'm finding most annoying at the moment is the lag I'm experiencing at peak hours. Hopefully that can be remedied.
Im loving the game. its a good feeling going back to sci fi mmo's. if SWG isnt your thing, MxO probably will be. its the only other good sci fi mmorpg out there. (edit: thats on ground, sorry all you eve players
)
but, if you hated the movies, youll go into the game thinking about how bad it will suck, and then you will never like the game. so, dont think about how bad the movies are. think about how great the game will be.
(plus its really hard for new players to know what to do. If you want help, go to linenoise and /tell joobax and i will answer / help any new players.)
I bought the game, excited by the glowing posts about its play.
However, I cancelled after three days.
I've played a lot of games, and I wouldn't hold that against me - I usually stick with games for a long time before cancelling - 5 years with EQ, 2 years AO, and a year DAoC. I just have an obscene amount of money to blow.
I found Matrix Online to be a mixed bag. I didn't cancel over any one particular cause, but simply because it wasn't my kind of game. MxO seemed to be limited, much like CoH. There are only 2 ways to work the early levels: your critical missions up to a point, and grind street mobs.
Granted, grinding street mobs at your low levels is fun, and not really a grind. But I found that the combo of street and mission maneuvered me too fast towards the end of my critical mission line.
So, I tackled the final critical mission, where I could choose to take it from any of the 3 factions in the game. I first tried it at level 5. Got my ass handed to me. Went back and tried again and did better, killing 1 of the 3 guards, but still got my ass basted. Hmm, okay, time to street grind to the next level and try again. I went back at level 6 and even discovered the open door cheat. That got me past the 1st guard, I managed to kill the 2nd, but the 3rd basted my ass. I noted with concern that the mobs had risen from 5^-^^^ to 6^-^^^. That made me plan harder. So I street grinded my way to 7. I loaded up the combat buff and health pills. I made sure I was equipped with my best weapon.
Know what I found? 3 guards, level 7^ to 7^^^. This only made me determined, even though it was a grim "I'm gonna die" determination. I slapped the first 2 guards down with some difficulty and rested for the last fight. I did everything I could at my level to prepare and be at my best for the 7^^^. However, no matter what I tried, no matter how many health pills I popped like pez, no matter what weapon or style I used, the 7^^^ consistently rolled no less than 110 on any move, while I rolled no better than a whopping 78 - on every single move, gunshot, trick, pants-wetting...
To sum, at such an early level, I was being forced by the game to group. Level 8 would have been no different, the mobs would have been 8^-^^^.
This is in glaring contrast to those who claimed you could solo all the way to the end game. Well, I don't know how they blew past an even ^^^, but I couldn't do it, and I'm not an inexperienced player.
If you have someone to play with you, you'll probably love this game. The lag is bad and you'll need a high end system. I have a high end system and the game runs a little gritty at times. Toons will occasionally rubberband or shoot across a 10-yard span. The game locks up consistently on quitting, although I don't consider that a game-stopper. So what? You just turn off the computer and restart. But some people gnash their teeth over that one.
With time, the lag will disappear - almost all games solve that problem (exception: HZs). Adjustments might be made to the levelling process. And certainly, the combat was refreshing. You'll have to decide on your own if the game is your type, but I found SWG to have more depth, and I detest that game - but I don't detest MxO.
Games:
WAR, LotRO, AO, GW, EQ, EQ2, AC, AC2, Vanguard, CoH, EVE, HZs, SO, MxO, SWG, DAoC, WoW, WWIIOL
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There's a world behind the world, Professor Robinson. Lie once, cheat twice and everything becomes clear. Do not mistake my deception for a character flaw. It is philosophical choice, a profound understanding of the universe. It is a way of life. - Doctor Smith
Yea, i know how you feel tilden. the game is VERY VERY un-newbie friendly. if you didnt play beta, youll be lost for the first week.
and yes you can solo all through the game, the 3^ are the same as 1^ but they have more hp and use more skills. (as in a level 22 3^ will use machine gun fist, while a 22 1^ will not.)
plus, it helps to have a good faction to give you really good buffed items.
I've been playing for 2 weeks and can say that its an excellent MMORPG. With reference to the negative comments:
1 Yes missions can become a grind, but ultimutly by there nature all MMORPGs have a grind of somesort. However, they are not the only thing to MXO. The game includes dungeons - with bosses. Its also still new so expect more content.
2 The COH comparisions. Its a much different game, yes its played - mainly - in a city and it has missions. butthat is the only comparision (By the way I don't think that COH is a bad game) The missions have more variety, there are items and there is PVP, indeed servers soley for this game type if thats your thing.
3 I played for 4 days and canceled - it was boring, group orentated, etc. Not wishing to flame but how the hell can you tell much about an MMORPG after 4 dys play? the comment above regarding not been able to get past fraction mission at levels 5, 6. 7. without a group. I can't remember what level i hit this mission and yes i too couldn't get past it - indeed it fustrtaed the hell out of me and keyboard was thrown around anumber of times :-P. I logged out, played EVE; logged in, gaot my ass kicked, logged out; played WoW; logged in, got my ass kicked, logged out; played GW (does anyone else think; a that game is over rated and b does it remind anyone else of Phantasy Star Online?) went to the message board, looked up combat again, and skills; logged in, bought some new skills, played arouind with them, went to that mission and soloed it with ease. The game is not yet noob friendly, you need to do a bit of work and its also alot more complex then it at first seems.
To summerise: MXO is a game much deeper then it first appears, its possible to both solo and group, the RP is excellent, there are many online events, more then anyother MMORPG I can think of.
Negatives? Lagg is a pain, the game is still not stable IMO (it does seem sometimes like it still in beta) Canceling your account really needs to be changed - NB you cannot cancel your subscription online; you must ring warners. Although i have no intention of cancelling at the mo this really just dosen't sit well with me and indeed many on the MXO messageboards
When challenges in a game are so few that reading a few hints on the internet mean you master them all, challenges should be plainly left out of the game as it is not what is motivating the players.
MxO is like every MMORPG out there on this topic, what little challenge it offer, can be outdone easily with a few hints find on the internet. Should be no challenges or have so many of them that (nearly) nobody will seriously think of searching the internet...
The little challenge that you encounter is a BAD feature, since they are rares in a game that focus about a lack of them. So you basically have a game that is 95% of the time not challenging, and now, for some weird reason, the player need to face challenge. After failing twice, they go on the Internet and find solution, I dont see how players can be happy with that, since challenges lovers dont stick to that type of games. If that challenge was accessory, leading to new zones that dont affect those non-challenging zones, sure, fine, could be GREAT...but if it affect the non-challenging zones...err...BAD feature.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Okay, someone enlighten me as to what the LAW is that requires me to spend more time than 4 days to discover a game isn't my type?
Is it 6 days? 12 days? Only when and if I reach the TOP level? Would you please think before you claim that I cannot make an objective opinion about whether the game is for me or not if I find myself dropping the game after 4 days?
Many other games hooked me for a much longer time. If I am not hooked in the beginning, then the game is not for me. Whether it takes 4 years, 4 months, 4 days OR 4 HOURS.
The idea that one must play the entire game to the end level to determine if one likes it or not is like saying I need to eat the WHOLE BOWL of brain pudding to determine whether it appeals to me or not. HELL MAN, I'd know just by SNIFFING it. I played 4 days. The game did not appeal to me. I did not trash it; I qualified my evaluation on the noob portion of the game based on those 4 days. The reader was not "tricked" or "misled" as to my experience with the game.
Games:
WAR, LotRO, AO, GW, EQ, EQ2, AC, AC2, Vanguard, CoH, EVE, HZs, SO, MxO, SWG, DAoC, WoW, WWIIOL
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There's a world behind the world, Professor Robinson. Lie once, cheat twice and everything becomes clear. Do not mistake my deception for a character flaw. It is philosophical choice, a profound understanding of the universe. It is a way of life. - Doctor Smith
In response to Anofayle, I have no idea what you were trying to say.
As for Tilden, I've just started MxO, and I also did not like it at first. I thought it was a bit mundane and repetetive, but it actually grew on me after that. I understand that you want to have to love it at first to determine if it's for you, but there seems to be a lot more with a little bit of time.
I should be taking my own advice, because I'm saying the same thing you're saying about Eve. I've only played for a little bit, but after reading various boards, it's apparently one of the most in-depth, best MMO's out there, and I don't like it because I just started and haven't immediately fallen for it. Mayhaps one should take advantage of the 30 day trial? That's what it's for. I may not stay with MxO, but at least I have a month. I might change my mind if I really like it. (Maybe if someone ACTUALLY wants to group with me, that is
)
Anyway, I'd say a good amount of time to really see if you could stick with the game, and to see if it'd really grow on you would be about 1-2 weeks. I just think MxO is too new to really join for me. Maybe with more people, I'd hop on...or should I say, jack-in?
In one word ?
REPETITIVE!
Yours, Friendly, YadNi
hey Tilden.....instead of quitting a game when you get your ass handed to you, why not invest in better equipment?
For those who find the game repetitive.....do something besides missions
Construct bosses give GREAT xp and loot, for example. (but of course you'd have to play for more than four days to know that)
I did all the other stuff - I lasted 2 weeks and I could not take anymore. Doing the exact same tasks over and over was no fun at all - not to mention I had been doing the same tasks for weeks in beta (none of the missions, critical or regular, changed from Beta to Retail).
The bugs I could have lived with, but I knew the text to the missions before I even accepted them because they were so repetitive. Data Node taps, making abilities, access nodes, etc. were cool to do like twice. The only reason I stayed longer than a week was doing the missions for the contacts, but that got repetitive too. Let;s face it the Critical Missions are the content and you can blow through them in a couple of hours and then grind for days for 1 maybe 2 more of em to fall your way.
The live events and meeting with live lead toons seemed to be reserved for those that maxed leveled in the first few days and/or were leaders of factions. The only way I knew what was going on was by reading the site. Not to mention I played on Enumerator and those lvl 50 toons would just hang out at hardlines and 2 shot me as soon as I jacked in anywhere. I neva made it past lvl 18 and I quit before my free days were up & there is no way I want to lvl another toon on another server because it;s just not fun.
I think the worst part is how those who like the game tell those that leave how they are stupid and not needed by the community or the devs, once people ask for help canceling or post about issues that need to be addressed. That coupled with the process of canceling itself will make it harder for them to return and unfortunatly seal the game;s fate, IMO of course. Then again I;m just another idiot that was too stupid understand the game.
Just got the game, found a nice guide on the web so at least i got started, up to lvl 4 right now from the street punks, so far it seems okey, graphics look okey but not amazing like in eq2.
As for best scifi, think ao beats this one, but matrix is brand new.
There are accounts of Morpheus meeting with lvl 3 toons. There are accounts of Morpheus recruiting random redpills off the streets, designing a team to run with him to perform missions.....I believe in teh example I'm referring to they ranged in levels from 16-14, some without faction.
I think I was level 15 or so when I first met with a "live" Niobe and Ghost. Just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
You could also put them on your buddy list.....I know that they have been known to respond to /tells and to give tasks to players who wish to help further the story.
The characters are in the game almost all the time. You can get involved at any point, you don't need to wait for events.
If you have problems with getting ganked by high level players....why did you choose a hostile server?
As far as your "worst part".....well, there are asshats on both sides of the fence. But that is no differant than in any other game, although I do agree that the cancellation process needs to be easier.
Sweede: yeah, AO was the king of sci-fi games. But it's become such a frankenstein monster of expansions, nerfs, and conflicting genres. That coupled with it's age, make it less than desirable to play, which saddens me, because I played for three years. Maybe that's why teh missions in MxO don't bother me that much, because I put up with AO's grind for so long.
But I still miss my fixer....and my enforcer.....and my metaphysicist. I miss Grid Armor, and Quantum Wings, and making myself HUGE with my enf, then stomping around Bronto Burger. -=sigh=-
Playing MxO until AO comes out, I guess
>If you have problems with getting ganked by high level players....why did you choose a hostile server?
We were told that the players would have more influence on the events on hostile servers, but they were the same on all servers. Call me crazy for believing them. For some reason I also believed that since there was a button to move your toon to a new server in beta that I would actually be able to do so at some point, but I guess they were testing the button graphics to see if they would appear on the screen. I also did not think anyone would make a game that would give point rewards to a maxed toon for taking out a toon 34 levels below him.
I never even saw a live character outside of the agents the last day of beta and the only people I know that did get to interact with them were the dev pets from beta -such as FA.
How unfortunate that you somehow got so confused. All servers have an equal weight in the story, as you have discovered.
When a number of the test servers in beta were facing impeding closure, the devs implemented a method to move your character to another server. I don't think it had a real purpose other than that.
As cpr CQ points.....well, a kill is a kill. Some people have the honor and decency to not gank a low level player, and of course others do not. I enjoy plenty of PvP on a non-hostile server where it is an opt-in system, but don't have to worry about getting ganked just trying to level.
My faction, and many others that I know of, have regular meetings with movie toons on a frequent basis (on the Method server). It is a shame that you havn't had the chance to interact with them youself, however many people do, more than just the "Dev Pets" (such as The Collective).
What can I say? It sounds like you rolled on the wrong server for the kind of experience you were seeking. I know it can be a hassle to grind through the critical missions again, but I suggest that some day you try again on say, Method, or Linenoise.
Hostile info from here http://thematrixonline.warnerbros.com/web/live/community/community_news_display.jsp?id=031805_hostile_worlds
When tensions run high in the Matrix, members of the various Organizations (Zion, Machine, and Merovingian) will naturally want to strike out against those they deem responsible. Hostile worlds, such as Enumerator, will be strongly affected by events as they occur. On these worlds, no one at level 16 or above will be able to remain outside the conflict. Even those at lower levels can choose to enter into the fray.
Server change info from Beta boards here http://mxoboards2.warnerbros.com/newboards/thread.jspa?threadID=2000053537&tstart=0
Will I be able to move my character from one server to another?
This won't be possible at launch. However, we are looking into doing this in the future.
While I wish I would have started on Method or a carebear server, the repetitiveness is still there. I hope things change for the better - in the eyes of those that have left for the same issues as myself. I still believe the game has great potential. One of my lasyt petitions was regarding the timing of being able to move my toon. Here it is
Ability to switch servers - When?
Can we get a target date or find out where this is on the priority list? This will affect my continued subscription. Thank you much!
Response (mxo.urbanwolf) 04/09/2005 03:47 PM
Hi xxxxxxxxx, Thank you for your question. The ability to transfer a character from one server to another is not currently being considered for development. If you want to play on a different server you will have to create a new character there. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Thank you for your support and patience. Regards, mxo.urbanwolf
Im Amazed..... NOT!!!
Sorry for offtopic (didn't want to open new one jsut for one simpl quiestion)...
When should The MAtrix Online come to Europe?
Im pretty sure it already out in europe.
But anyways, YES. the game is repitive. you have to mission grind and it isnt fun. you have to watch the boring combat all day long to level up... OH WAIT. Instead of making it a quest grind where you look dumb doing it, they make it a quest grind where you look KICK ASS doing it.
sorry if that doesnt interest you, maybe you should go back to WoW and grind through there quests.