There are a lot of posts for and against Cataclysm and WoW in general, but I just have to give Blizz props where it is deserved. This expansion is incredibly fun and changed so many things about the game that it just has to be said that they did a fantastic job. A lot of the people bashing the game have clearly either never played it and are hating or just are whiners in general. Yes you will eventually get bored of this game. Nothing is exciting and new forever. Between now and then there are TONS of things to do and ways to find enjoyment that are difficult to find as well done or as highly polished in other MMOs.
Blizzard remains at the top of the pack in providing a quality MMO.
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Nice score but i would rate it as an easy 9/10 just for the sheer amount of fun this expansion brings. I am glad i started playing WOW during Cataclysm.
If you just started playing during the expansion you dont know how the game was before it. If a game is great than an expansion just adds to the greatness it doesnt deserve a perfect score. If you were a vet I could understand your argument, but as a new player you dont really have one since people gave WoW 9/10 and 10/10s before it.
Originally posted by aovannor Originally posted by newbinator New classes sound good on paper, but really what could you add to WOW that would be different from existing classes? There are already 10 classes with 3 unique talent trees each, essentially 30 classes compared to most other MMO's. I personally would like to see a Warden class added, but again... how would they make it cool and different?
How about a ranged class that isn't pet based and has stealth? Gun based option? Dual pistols, bigger guns, bow or crossbow? Ranger or Gunslinger? How about a melee based healing class that works similar to the bear shaman in AOC? Or the Justicar in the upcoming Rift? Or like one of the dark elf classes in War? (forget what they are called) A monk class? fist weapon or staff specialist, with elemental melee attacks and side healing? basically a rogue/healer? A melee based magic class in weak armor? Like the one that can turn into a demon on AoC Something using throwing weapons? they do seem a bit useless other than for pulling at the moment... A Runemaster? It's already in the lore.. http://www.wowwiki.com/Runemaster Something like Vampire? Melee based health leeching class? A full engineer class? Steampunk pets, gadgets and stationary turrets? So, basically all your ideas for new classes are having existing classes use different weapons/armor or combining mechanics from existing classes.
Guns? Hunters can already use guns. How would the Gunslinger be different? Monk? You already said its just a Rogue that can heal. Throwing weapons? Rogues already use throwing weapons. Melee magic class? Death Knights?
Besides stupid resource systems would set these "new" classes apart from the existing classes in a meaningful way?
Went from a "modern" grindy MMO to WoW with Cata.. loving it and no turning back here
Sometimes life is too short to grind!
So WoW doesn't have end game grind? hmmm
End game is all about grind.
Grind normal dungeons to get gear to run heroics, grind reputation to gear to run heroics, grind heroics to get currency to get gear to run raids. Grind raids to get gear so you can...grind the next tier of raids. Hell, they have even made PvP more of a gear grind than it was before this expansion.
I'm actually surprised that Archaeology was listed as a con. It's really the only profession that isn't about pure grinding, and requires you to be active. You don't sit in a single spot and click a bobber, or hop from node to node, or even endlessly watch a scroll bar tick away as you mass produce whatever is the most efficient recipe to level with.
No new classes is a positive as well. Blizzard has a hard enough time trying to balance the classe and talent specs they have, and to toss in another class with 3 more specs would have been folly. Especially considering the amount of time it took them just to rebuild Azeroth for flight, how much further would a new class have pushed them back?
Personally, I feel the rating should be a 9/10. Blizzard did a tremendous job with the new 1-60 content and 80-85 content. Vashj'ir is especially interesting since it's a zone that's completely submerged. Blizzard did a great job with this expansion.
alot of people don't realize World of Warcraft is following an actual storyline.....there is only 1 more xpac they can come out with based on the story then it's over......and judging by how they are letting stats and modifiers on equipment run completely wild they are gearing people up for the return of the titans.....cata is a solid xpac....and i'm betting the next and final one will be the mother of all expansions!
I still find it funny all the anti WoW fanboys out there. All them have their panties all up in a bunch because WoW stole the fanbase from their first loved MMO and made it a ghost town.
WoW might not have brought anything new in this expansion to some of you haters... For those of us who has seen every up and down lived every nerf and buff this is a huge step. There will never be any perfect MMO out there to any of your standards but whatever crappy one you played 10 years ago that WoW crushed...
If you play an MMO and want a ever changing sandbox go play Mortal Online. Oh wait it failed.. Aion? Fail.. WAR (the WoW killer) Fail... AoC (Slowly bleeding out).. There is no game out there worth a damn with a player base like WoW and one that has a Dev team working their butts off trying to keep it updated and up to everyones standards.
Amen brotha!
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I still find it funny all the anti WoW fanboys out there. All them have their panties all up in a bunch because WoW stole the fanbase from their first loved MMO and made it a ghost town.
WoW might not have brought anything new in this expansion to some of you haters... For those of us who has seen every up and down lived every nerf and buff this is a huge step. There will never be any perfect MMO out there to any of your standards but whatever crappy one you played 10 years ago that WoW crushed...
If you play an MMO and want a ever changing sandbox go play Mortal Online. Oh wait it failed.. Aion? Fail.. WAR (the WoW killer) Fail... AoC (Slowly bleeding out).. There is no game out there worth a damn with a player base like WoW and one that has a Dev team working their butts off trying to keep it updated and up to everyones standards.
Amen brotha!
it's hard to compare WoW to other games and part of wow's broad appeal is it's low system requirements, a game like mortal online or AoC could never garner the membership of wow for the sole reason you need a decent computer to run them.....though most of the statement is true i think it's a bit overboard wow is the facebook of mmo's and as far as the dedicated dev team......how much dedication does it take to come up with scams to push a login authenticator most mmo's come for free with?
After playing Cata for a few weeks I found I'd leveled up both my main characters. It was fun but too easy again . Now looking at the endgame content and thinks theres maybe enough to interest me for a month maybe . So after that I will continue to level up through the the revamped content which wont take every long and todays leveling speeds . For me Cata proberbly gives me about 3 months interesting gameplay in WoW then I'll quit till the next Xpac . Azeroths a nice place to visit but I would'nt want to settle down there again . Still kudos to Blizzard they can make a game I've played on and off for 6 years now still interesting albiet for short periods . In no way though would I say the game in its current form matches the game I first played in terms of quality ,difficulty or sheer fun . I miss the world pvp that is virtually non existant now .
McDonalds food may be shit, but Blizzard games are superb. Maybe WoW isn't your cup of tea, but you can never ever say it's a shitty game because it isn't at all.
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Wow...you missed a lot of stuff, the new dungeons are like mini-raids. There is no more face rolling your way through them. Each is unique and some are down right hard to do on heroic mode(almost impossible unless every does what they are suppose to do). Rated BG's? Tol Barad? Uldum is a cool new zone that has some very funny quest lines players follow that deal with Harrison Jones(knock off of Indiana Jones movies). So much oportunity to shine light into all the new stuff missed.
You should have included all the bad as well...like broken quest, broken skills, broken classes. Messed up lore. Stupid new quest that take grinding to a whole new level. Vashj'ir is cool...but I hate it. The quest are tiring and borish to the x-degree. How many go fetch and deliver, kill-x-# quest can they put in a zone? 150! That is how many! OMG I hated that zone so much l only did it because a guildy wanted to experince it. I will agree that archeology is a huge let down and a missed oportunity for Blizzard to add a new unique game play aspect...boy did they frak that up. It is mind-numbingly boring and the travel times to go from one dig site to another can be a huge pain. It is not fun.
Cataclysm is a fitting name for the expansion. Thankfully the parts that are good make up for all the stuff that is bad(which is alot!)
Yea. Swimming in the Maelstrom would be one of the worst ideas anyone could ever have.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
That said, all Blizzard did was a little class balancing, oversimplification of talents leading to even more cookiecutter builds, and the addition of more, but limited content.
They fixed nothing and played their fanboys like well-tuned violins. WoW is still the same old thing.
I'm also going to toss this out there. Healing no long is mindless spams of your biggest spell, it is all about knowing when to heal and how to conserve mana.
WoW got easier in some aspects but in others it is a lot harder.. this will define the good guild from the bad ones.
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Quest design is absolutely horrible! Everything is chained together and heaven help you if you miss one in the chain, you are doomed to either find the one you missed or forget the rest of the quests in the area. For example I got half of the Uldum quests done(it is the best new area imo) and somehow missed a quest, hence the rest of the entire area is dead to me.
After spending two hours searching for a quest indicator I just gave up and opened a ticket. No wonder the support people are over worked.
This is exactly how NOT to design a quest system!
BTW Teala, I am with you, I disliked the sea area (Vashjir), the quest design is not up to the other areas.
Heh, I actually liked Vashj'ir. But I've always liked the Naga related stuff. But yeah, I've found the new quest system a bit bothersome, especially if one of them bugs (which happend to me several times). On top of that there were still way too many grind quests (kill 10 rats variety). However, there were some very cool quest chains so it wasn't all tiresome.
Well i am enjoying the expansion so far, and i'm glad Blizzard took this big step destroying their "baby" but it was for the better. It deserves more then what the critics are giving it, and for everyone crying about how Blizzard broke your class two things. 1: Every think you never knew how to play the class properly in the first place. 2:If its broken it will be fixed so grow up and have some patience. And i really am enjoying the new dungeons because they actually give you a challenge and its no longer a 20min burn thorugh,. No PVP yet but im sure its reallly good too. Also loving the Worgen race really cool. And to all you trolls keep on trolling it up because you only make yourself look bad not the game. Anyways hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and/or a Happy Holiday. -Rass
@Teala so you basically said at the beginning you want an easy game to play. I hear Lego Universe is good. Btw lore is up to par the quests are great and the kill x amount of rats then come back has been in MMO's forever so its actually an expected thing.
I still find it funny all the anti WoW fanboys out there. All them have their panties all up in a bunch because WoW stole the fanbase from their first loved MMO and made it a ghost town.
WoW might not have brought anything new in this expansion to some of you haters... For those of us who has seen every up and down lived every nerf and buff this is a huge step. There will never be any perfect MMO out there to any of your standards but whatever crappy one you played 10 years ago that WoW crushed...
Anti fanbois due to their old mmos? I played WoW for a little over 4 years, from beta, up until WOTLK. I'm an anti-fanboi for other reasons. Blizzard is laughing their asses off, all the way to the bank, with this expansion.
There is a bit of misinformation in the review, or rather information left out. It really is disapointing how biased this site's reviews have become in the past few months.
Other than that, the main point I was disapointed with Cataclysm is that the Worgen don't have any ability to run on all fours as was suggested would/was to be in beta. It seems really pointless to have the Worgen character models have anthropomorphic legs if they don't use them how they are designed. Basically more cartoonish unrealism for the gamer who likes to feel their brain turn to mush I suppose with the lack of intelligent gaming.
Well there is a way to walk on all fours.... Once you get the riding skill you will walk on all fours instead of on a mount
There is a bit of misinformation in the review, or rather information left out. It really is disapointing how biased this site's reviews have become in the past few months.
Other than that, the main point I was disapointed with Cataclysm is that the Worgen don't have any ability to run on all fours as was suggested would/was to be in beta. It seems really pointless to have the Worgen character models have anthropomorphic legs if they don't use them how they are designed. Basically more cartoonish unrealism for the gamer who likes to feel their brain turn to mush I suppose with the lack of intelligent gaming.
Play the game, then speak. You get four-footed running ability (as fast as a basic mount) at 20th.
I have played the game thanks, and the lack of mentioning a player doesnt get the ability until L 20 only proves my point. Anthropomorphic legs dont learn to walk as a biped before moving as a quadriped, lol, its the opposite. I guess it just goes to show how clueless Blizzard devs really are.
Yes... Clueless.
Exactly the word I would use for people who have successfully developed, launched and maintained a wildly successful MMORPG for years, keeping people coming back - no matter how much they say they "hate it". Exactly how I would describe devs who have managed to improve the look, technology and overall performance of their game engine continuously throughout its lifespan while still keeping it playable on lower end machines.
Exactly the word I would use to describe devs who, in a fantasy game where most of it's not "real" to begin with, opt to make players wait a "whole 20 levels" before they get a run buff that allows them to run at normal mount speed... without needing a mount. That whole irksome "realism versus gameplay" balancing act...
'cause, you know... In a world with dragons, murlocs, Night Elves, flight travel available via mythical creatures (gryphons), the walking undead, possessed swords, Blood Elves, Orcs, Trolls, Magic casters hurling fireballs, and humans turning into werewolves in the first place... It's critical to make sure they stick strictly to reality regarding the use of said werewolves' legs.
Right.
... I really hope the sarcasm was noted, 'cause I made it a point to lay it on thick.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I still find it funny all the anti WoW fanboys out there. All them have their panties all up in a bunch because WoW stole the fanbase from their first loved MMO and made it a ghost town.
WoW might not have brought anything new in this expansion to some of you haters... For those of us who has seen every up and down lived every nerf and buff this is a huge step. There will never be any perfect MMO out there to any of your standards but whatever crappy one you played 10 years ago that WoW crushed...
If you play an MMO and want a ever changing sandbox go play Mortal Online. Oh wait it failed.. Aion? Fail.. WAR (the WoW killer) Fail... AoC (Slowly bleeding out).. There is no game out there worth a damn with a player base like WoW and one that has a Dev team working their butts off trying to keep it updated and up to everyones standards.
Amen brotha!
it's hard to compare WoW to other games and part of wow's broad appeal is it's low system requirements, a game like mortal online or AoC could never garner the membership of wow for the sole reason you need a decent computer to run them.....though most of the statement is true i think it's a bit overboard wow is the facebook of mmo's and as far as the dedicated dev team......how much dedication does it take to come up with scams to push a login authenticator most mmo's come for free with?
Only other MMO dev I'm aware of that offers a security token is SE for FFXI and XIV.
What are these "most MMOs" you're referring to that offer them for free?
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
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There are a lot of posts for and against Cataclysm and WoW in general, but I just have to give Blizz props where it is deserved. This expansion is incredibly fun and changed so many things about the game that it just has to be said that they did a fantastic job. A lot of the people bashing the game have clearly either never played it and are hating or just are whiners in general. Yes you will eventually get bored of this game. Nothing is exciting and new forever. Between now and then there are TONS of things to do and ways to find enjoyment that are difficult to find as well done or as highly polished in other MMOs.
Blizzard remains at the top of the pack in providing a quality MMO.
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If you just started playing during the expansion you dont know how the game was before it. If a game is great than an expansion just adds to the greatness it doesnt deserve a perfect score. If you were a vet I could understand your argument, but as a new player you dont really have one since people gave WoW 9/10 and 10/10s before it.
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How about a melee based healing class that works similar to the bear shaman in AOC? Or the Justicar in the upcoming Rift? Or like one of the dark elf classes in War? (forget what they are called)
A monk class? fist weapon or staff specialist, with elemental melee attacks and side healing? basically a rogue/healer?
A melee based magic class in weak armor? Like the one that can turn into a demon on AoC
Something using throwing weapons? they do seem a bit useless other than for pulling at the moment...
A Runemaster? It's already in the lore.. http://www.wowwiki.com/Runemaster
Something like Vampire? Melee based health leeching class?
A full engineer class? Steampunk pets, gadgets and stationary turrets?
So, basically all your ideas for new classes are having existing classes use different weapons/armor or combining mechanics from existing classes.
Guns? Hunters can already use guns. How would the Gunslinger be different?
Monk? You already said its just a Rogue that can heal.
Throwing weapons? Rogues already use throwing weapons.
Melee magic class? Death Knights?
Besides stupid resource systems would set these "new" classes apart from the existing classes in a meaningful way?
End game is all about grind.
Grind normal dungeons to get gear to run heroics, grind reputation to gear to run heroics, grind heroics to get currency to get gear to run raids. Grind raids to get gear so you can...grind the next tier of raids. Hell, they have even made PvP more of a gear grind than it was before this expansion.
Seems to me some people are confused about what is included in cata, and what is included FREE with patch 4.0
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I'm actually surprised that Archaeology was listed as a con. It's really the only profession that isn't about pure grinding, and requires you to be active. You don't sit in a single spot and click a bobber, or hop from node to node, or even endlessly watch a scroll bar tick away as you mass produce whatever is the most efficient recipe to level with.
No new classes is a positive as well. Blizzard has a hard enough time trying to balance the classe and talent specs they have, and to toss in another class with 3 more specs would have been folly. Especially considering the amount of time it took them just to rebuild Azeroth for flight, how much further would a new class have pushed them back?
Personally, I feel the rating should be a 9/10. Blizzard did a tremendous job with the new 1-60 content and 80-85 content. Vashj'ir is especially interesting since it's a zone that's completely submerged. Blizzard did a great job with this expansion.
alot of people don't realize World of Warcraft is following an actual storyline.....there is only 1 more xpac they can come out with based on the story then it's over......and judging by how they are letting stats and modifiers on equipment run completely wild they are gearing people up for the return of the titans.....cata is a solid xpac....and i'm betting the next and final one will be the mother of all expansions!
Amen brotha!
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it's hard to compare WoW to other games and part of wow's broad appeal is it's low system requirements, a game like mortal online or AoC could never garner the membership of wow for the sole reason you need a decent computer to run them.....though most of the statement is true i think it's a bit overboard wow is the facebook of mmo's and as far as the dedicated dev team......how much dedication does it take to come up with scams to push a login authenticator most mmo's come for free with?
After playing Cata for a few weeks I found I'd leveled up both my main characters. It was fun but too easy again . Now looking at the endgame content and thinks theres maybe enough to interest me for a month maybe . So after that I will continue to level up through the the revamped content which wont take every long and todays leveling speeds . For me Cata proberbly gives me about 3 months interesting gameplay in WoW then I'll quit till the next Xpac . Azeroths a nice place to visit but I would'nt want to settle down there again . Still kudos to Blizzard they can make a game I've played on and off for 6 years now still interesting albiet for short periods . In no way though would I say the game in its current form matches the game I first played in terms of quality ,difficulty or sheer fun . I miss the world pvp that is virtually non existant now .
McDonalds food may be shit, but Blizzard games are superb. Maybe WoW isn't your cup of tea, but you can never ever say it's a shitty game because it isn't at all.
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Wow...you missed a lot of stuff, the new dungeons are like mini-raids. There is no more face rolling your way through them. Each is unique and some are down right hard to do on heroic mode(almost impossible unless every does what they are suppose to do). Rated BG's? Tol Barad? Uldum is a cool new zone that has some very funny quest lines players follow that deal with Harrison Jones(knock off of Indiana Jones movies). So much oportunity to shine light into all the new stuff missed.
You should have included all the bad as well...like broken quest, broken skills, broken classes. Messed up lore. Stupid new quest that take grinding to a whole new level. Vashj'ir is cool...but I hate it. The quest are tiring and borish to the x-degree. How many go fetch and deliver, kill-x-# quest can they put in a zone? 150! That is how many! OMG I hated that zone so much l only did it because a guildy wanted to experince it. I will agree that archeology is a huge let down and a missed oportunity for Blizzard to add a new unique game play aspect...boy did they frak that up. It is mind-numbingly boring and the travel times to go from one dig site to another can be a huge pain. It is not fun.
Cataclysm is a fitting name for the expansion. Thankfully the parts that are good make up for all the stuff that is bad(which is alot!)
I'd have given the expansion a 6.5 out of 10.
"The Maelstrom being added offers players the chance to quest underwater and discover lots of new areas to swim through."
Uhm.. we don't swim in the maelstrom, that would be vashjir.
Yea. Swimming in the Maelstrom would be one of the worst ideas anyone could ever have.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
WTF? No subscription fee?
Is making WoW easier necessarily a good thing?
That said, all Blizzard did was a little class balancing, oversimplification of talents leading to even more cookiecutter builds, and the addition of more, but limited content.
They fixed nothing and played their fanboys like well-tuned violins. WoW is still the same old thing.
I'm also going to toss this out there. Healing no long is mindless spams of your biggest spell, it is all about knowing when to heal and how to conserve mana.
WoW got easier in some aspects but in others it is a lot harder.. this will define the good guild from the bad ones.
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Quest design is absolutely horrible! Everything is chained together and heaven help you if you miss one in the chain, you are doomed to either find the one you missed or forget the rest of the quests in the area. For example I got half of the Uldum quests done(it is the best new area imo) and somehow missed a quest, hence the rest of the entire area is dead to me.
After spending two hours searching for a quest indicator I just gave up and opened a ticket. No wonder the support people are over worked.
This is exactly how NOT to design a quest system!
BTW Teala, I am with you, I disliked the sea area (Vashjir), the quest design is not up to the other areas.
Heh, I actually liked Vashj'ir. But I've always liked the Naga related stuff. But yeah, I've found the new quest system a bit bothersome, especially if one of them bugs (which happend to me several times). On top of that there were still way too many grind quests (kill 10 rats variety). However, there were some very cool quest chains so it wasn't all tiresome.
My biggest issue is the end game.
Well i am enjoying the expansion so far, and i'm glad Blizzard took this big step destroying their "baby" but it was for the better. It deserves more then what the critics are giving it, and for everyone crying about how Blizzard broke your class two things. 1: Every think you never knew how to play the class properly in the first place. 2:If its broken it will be fixed so grow up and have some patience. And i really am enjoying the new dungeons because they actually give you a challenge and its no longer a 20min burn thorugh,. No PVP yet but im sure its reallly good too. Also loving the Worgen race really cool. And to all you trolls keep on trolling it up because you only make yourself look bad not the game. Anyways hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and/or a Happy Holiday. -Rass
@Teala so you basically said at the beginning you want an easy game to play. I hear Lego Universe is good. Btw lore is up to par the quests are great and the kill x amount of rats then come back has been in MMO's forever so its actually an expected thing.
Anti fanbois due to their old mmos? I played WoW for a little over 4 years, from beta, up until WOTLK. I'm an anti-fanboi for other reasons. Blizzard is laughing their asses off, all the way to the bank, with this expansion.
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Well there is a way to walk on all fours.... Once you get the riding skill you will walk on all fours instead of on a mount
Yes... Clueless.
Exactly the word I would use for people who have successfully developed, launched and maintained a wildly successful MMORPG for years, keeping people coming back - no matter how much they say they "hate it". Exactly how I would describe devs who have managed to improve the look, technology and overall performance of their game engine continuously throughout its lifespan while still keeping it playable on lower end machines.
Exactly the word I would use to describe devs who, in a fantasy game where most of it's not "real" to begin with, opt to make players wait a "whole 20 levels" before they get a run buff that allows them to run at normal mount speed... without needing a mount. That whole irksome "realism versus gameplay" balancing act...
'cause, you know... In a world with dragons, murlocs, Night Elves, flight travel available via mythical creatures (gryphons), the walking undead, possessed swords, Blood Elves, Orcs, Trolls, Magic casters hurling fireballs, and humans turning into werewolves in the first place... It's critical to make sure they stick strictly to reality regarding the use of said werewolves' legs.
Right.
... I really hope the sarcasm was noted, 'cause I made it a point to lay it on thick.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Only other MMO dev I'm aware of that offers a security token is SE for FFXI and XIV.
What are these "most MMOs" you're referring to that offer them for free?
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops