Sometimes i think that all the producing companies in the MMO's industry are all comunists freaks!
The individual should make the group not the other way arround...yet all i see in the MMO industry is a freeking desire for making us all equals and with a very developed sense of flock!
like all PVP it is basically skill and with a dash of luck. You see this all time time on DAOC where two exactly the same type characters go head to head and one consistantly kills the other every time. Items are the same and the skill tree are the same and they might even have the same hot key bar, but one person is just more skilled.
Learn your characters and I would say the best way for that is to do the quests.
Salahuddin thats simply not true. The entire PVP aspect of GW is based on skills. Or would you say that you can take a random team and win against my guild? (The Asylum) Point is. This game is 100%. Know when to use interrups, when to heal, when to blah blah blah .. You get the picture. Its about how good you are and how good your team are. Nothing more. As for 1on1`s .. Well dude.. Ther arent really all that many 1on1´s in the game. And if there are. Then yes, 1 dude will win most of the time. Just as any other game. Its all about how good you are at using your toon.
And here we go.. Yet another WoW fanboi thats flaming GW. You go girl.
As for me beeing skilled.. Ehm.. never said that dude.. Simply stated thats its about skills and not that im skilled. Fairly big diffrence
As for me beeing in asylum. Well. Send a tell/whisper to anyone in the guild and they will comfirm it.
And besides, when you lose your monk, you can use all the skills in your bar, you can press all the keys on your keyboard, move the mouse all you want and bash your head against the desk (with great skill I might add) and you'll still lose.
wow.. have you even gotten past pre-ascalon ? Someone goes down = you res him? Its all about if you can kill you opponent faster than they can kill you.
And you said yourself... there aren't that many 1v1s... So in your 6 games of experience, you're telling everyone that 1 player will in most 1v1s most of the time? Why not just admit you don't know what you're talking about?
Your a fool dude.. We havent even begun GVG yet. We are still farming skill/gear. And those 6 fights are 4xhenchmen teams 1vs Ladder To Hell and 1 vs The Valanore.
As for my experience im currently @ 882 fame. So i would propperly say that i have played my share of battles.
GW is like rock-paper-scissors in team format. Except you have 100 forms of rocks, 100 forms of scissors and 100 forms of paper. Oh and you run around a bit with your rocks, scissors and paper. At the end though, rocks beats scissors, and scissors beats paper, and paper beats rock... and there is nothing you can do about it.
If it makes you feel good that you can win in such a game... Well congrats man, you're very skilled at organzing your team of rocks, papers and scissors. If you think you're skilled because of it... congrats too. You can join EVERYONE else who plays GW and thinks they are they are skilled too. At the end of the day, its all talk, because all you have is a meaningless guild record to show anything. No one will ever have any objective record of your skill, because none exists.
wieeee keep flaming GW mr. wow fanboi
And if your not flaming?
This game is 100% what? Crap?
Then why write that. Plz dont badmouth a game you dont like. And propperly even havent played past lvl 4 like the other fool. Just go back to wow and gank a lvl 10 with your uber skilled lvl 60 whatever.
Originally posted by Salahuddin LOL... this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. You're trying to tell me you're skilled because your on the Asylum and have 5 wins and 1 loss? Besides, for all anyone knows, you're not even on the guild, or might be their official benchwarmer. This game is 100% what? Crap? Know when to use interrupts, when to heal and when to blah blah blah? You use interrupts when people use skills and you use heals when people are low on health. Its not rocket science or skilled art. Most people can press the appropriate key when they need to... and if that is "skill" to you well, I hate to tell you, but everyone is skilled then. And besides, when you lose your monk, you can use all the skills in your bar, you can press all the keys on your keyboard, move the mouse all you want and bash your head against the desk (with great skill I might add) and you'll still lose. GW is like rock-paper-scissors in team format. Except you have 100 forms of rocks, 100 forms of scissors and 100 forms of paper. Oh and you run around a bit with your rocks, scissors and paper. At the end though, rocks beats scissors, and scissors beats paper, and paper beats rock... and there is nothing you can do about it. If it makes you feel good that you can win in such a game... Well congrats man, you're very skilled at organzing your team of rocks, papers and scissors. If you think you're skilled because of it... congrats too. You can join EVERYONE else who plays GW and thinks they are they are skilled too. At the end of the day, its all talk, because all you have is a meaningless guild record to show anything. No one will ever have any objective record of your skill, because none exists.
Wow.. Interesting thread. For perspective, I only played the BWE and retail, not alpha testing, so I'm only a week or whatever into the game. The biggest problem for Salahuddin seems to be a lack of recognition of individual accomplishment, but really how could you measure that? If you're playing Monk, unlikely you will get any kills in PvP, but you're critical to the success of the team.
Is the skill of figuring out which target to hit with which skill comparable to hitting a 3-point shot? Well, no. Is it comparable to fast twitch trigger pressing in Counter-Strike? No. Is it fun to play anyway? Hell yeah! The vast majority of people in this forum enjoy the game. I don't frankly understand what drives people like Salahuddin to come here and comment. I've played demos I didn't like, and even bought games I didn't like, but I would never come to a game specific forum to complain about it. You played the alpha, you did well, you didn't like it, so move on. Life's too short to worry with the people here who are obviously of a different mindset.
Originally posted by Salahuddin LOL don't make me laugh...
What you described in your post is actually skill. Its not a tactical skill where you use your skills to beat the crap out of an oponent or counter their attack, but rather strategical skill, where you plan for all the possibilities you can think of and try to counter them before they occur. I guess you simply dont understand the strategy involved.
What you described in your post is actually skill. Its not a tactical skill where you use your skills to beat the crap out of an oponent or counter their attack, but rather strategical skill, where you plan for all the possibilities you can think of and try to counter them before they occur. I guess you simply dont understand the strategy involved.
Originally posted by Salahuddin LOL... you two keep "guessing." After playing for only a week that is all you guys are doing anyways. At least DallasTX is respectable enough to post honestly. If you actually read my previous posts, you'd see that I've provided you with a build to prove my point. But I know its beyond you guys to test it out... you just want to refuse to even consider it because you so dearly want to think you're skilled at something. Well, congrats fanboys, you all should give yourself all a group hug because you know so much about the game and how much skill all of you have. Of course, there will never be any proof or evidence of your skill, so I hope you have good imaginations... you'll need it. Anyways, my point for posting here was to answer the question of the original poster, and I'm quite certain I've established my point to him and to anyone else who read this post looking for a game of skill. If I saved a couple of competitive gamers their $40 bucks, then I'm happy. For the rest of you with no insight, you guys can continue to insult my personal skill level and convince yourselves of the skill involved in the game just so you feel better.
HUH? Guessing? Fanbois? I havent even tried the game yet. I only read your post and the describtion of the game from YOUR post made me post my opinion. What you desribed there is a classic "chess" like strategy, where you dont just move your chess pieces at random but plan several moves ahead, the more moves ahead you plan, the more chances you got to win. Your snaps only prove that either you are immature person with little tolerance of other people's opinions, or you are so deep into your own world that you dont see anything around you. Realy, the "You disagree with me, that means you are stupid" attitude doesnt cut anywhere past 3rd grade.
You said that in GW your pre-selection of skills plays a major role in the outcome of the battle. So, my task would be to try and predict what skills my opponents MAY use and try to counter those with my own skills. Does that not sound like chess?
And plz, insults? Have I called you "stupid" as you called me? Have I insulted your dignity in anyway? I pointed out to your ignorance and disrespect, but i never called you "stupid" or "retarded"... hmm, maybe I should...
Originally posted by Salahuddin Originally posted by jimmyman99 I pointed out to your ignorance... but i never called you "stupid" or "retarded"I rest my case.
I rest my case.
Anyway, its fairly pointless at this moment to asnwer anything. You obviously dont take any kind of criticism. So i will rest my case here and not asnwer anymore. have a good day.
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Sometimes i think that all the producing companies in the MMO's industry are all comunists freaks!
The individual should make the group not the other way arround...yet all i see in the MMO industry is a freeking desire for making us all equals and with a very developed sense of flock!
Am i the only one who feels this way?
like all PVP it is basically skill and with a dash of luck. You see this all time time on DAOC where two exactly the same type characters go head to head and one consistantly kills the other every time. Items are the same and the skill tree are the same and they might even have the same hot key bar, but one person is just more skilled.
Learn your characters and I would say the best way for that is to do the quests.
Tzsu
And here we go.. Yet another WoW fanboi thats flaming GW. You go girl.
As for me beeing skilled.. Ehm.. never said that dude.. Simply stated thats its about skills and not that im skilled. Fairly big diffrence
As for me beeing in asylum. Well. Send a tell/whisper to anyone in the guild and they will comfirm it.
And besides, when you lose your monk, you can use all the skills in your bar, you can press all the keys on your keyboard, move the mouse all you want and bash your head against the desk (with great skill I might add) and you'll still lose.
wow.. have you even gotten past pre-ascalon ? Someone goes down = you res him? Its all about if you can kill you opponent faster than they can kill you.
And you said yourself... there aren't that many 1v1s... So in your 6 games of experience, you're telling everyone that 1 player will in most 1v1s most of the time? Why not just admit you don't know what you're talking about?
Your a fool dude.. We havent even begun GVG yet. We are still farming skill/gear. And those 6 fights are 4xhenchmen teams 1vs Ladder To Hell and 1 vs The Valanore.
As for my experience im currently @ 882 fame. So i would propperly say that i have played my share of battles.
GW is like rock-paper-scissors in team format. Except you have 100 forms of rocks, 100 forms of scissors and 100 forms of paper. Oh and you run around a bit with your rocks, scissors and paper. At the end though, rocks beats scissors, and scissors beats paper, and paper beats rock... and there is nothing you can do about it.
If it makes you feel good that you can win in such a game... Well congrats man, you're very skilled at organzing your team of rocks, papers and scissors. If you think you're skilled because of it... congrats too. You can join EVERYONE else who plays GW and thinks they are they are skilled too. At the end of the day, its all talk, because all you have is a meaningless guild record to show anything. No one will ever have any objective record of your skill, because none exists.
wieeee keep flaming GW mr. wow fanboi
And if your not flaming?
This game is 100% what? Crap?
Then why write that. Plz dont badmouth a game you dont like. And propperly even havent played past lvl 4 like the other fool. Just go back to wow and gank a lvl 10 with your uber skilled lvl 60 whatever.
Wow.. Interesting thread. For perspective, I only played the BWE and retail, not alpha testing, so I'm only a week or whatever into the game. The biggest problem for Salahuddin seems to be a lack of recognition of individual accomplishment, but really how could you measure that? If you're playing Monk, unlikely you will get any kills in PvP, but you're critical to the success of the team.
Is the skill of figuring out which target to hit with which skill comparable to hitting a 3-point shot? Well, no. Is it comparable to fast twitch trigger pressing in Counter-Strike? No. Is it fun to play anyway? Hell yeah! The vast majority of people in this forum enjoy the game. I don't frankly understand what drives people like Salahuddin to come here and comment. I've played demos I didn't like, and even bought games I didn't like, but I would never come to a game specific forum to complain about it. You played the alpha, you did well, you didn't like it, so move on. Life's too short to worry with the people here who are obviously of a different mindset.
DallasTX
www.wolfgaming.net
What you described in your post is actually skill. Its not a tactical skill where you use your skills to beat the crap out of an oponent or counter their attack, but rather strategical skill, where you plan for all the possibilities you can think of and try to counter them before they occur. I guess you simply dont understand the strategy involved.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
I'm guessing he got owned.. repeatedly.
HUH? Guessing? Fanbois? I havent even tried the game yet. I only read your post and the describtion of the game from YOUR post made me post my opinion. What you desribed there is a classic "chess" like strategy, where you dont just move your chess pieces at random but plan several moves ahead, the more moves ahead you plan, the more chances you got to win.
Your snaps only prove that either you are immature person with little tolerance of other people's opinions, or you are so deep into your own world that you dont see anything around you. Realy, the "You disagree with me, that means you are stupid" attitude doesnt cut anywhere past 3rd grade.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
You said that in GW your pre-selection of skills plays a major role in the outcome of the battle. So, my task would be to try and predict what skills my opponents MAY use and try to counter those with my own skills. Does that not sound like chess?
And plz, insults? Have I called you "stupid" as you called me? Have I insulted your dignity in anyway? I pointed out to your ignorance and disrespect, but i never called you "stupid" or "retarded"... hmm, maybe I should...
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
I rest my case.
Anyway, its fairly pointless at this moment to asnwer anything. You obviously dont take any kind of criticism. So i will rest my case here and not asnwer anymore. have a good day.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.