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Will my Motherboard run a GTX 470?
Greetings,
Well, I believe it's finally time for me to replace my Nvidia 8800 GTS card.. I got this bad boy back in March of 2007 and it's been the best card I've ever had.. In some ways, I'm sad to depart from it, *wipes tear*
With that said, I've been checking out this card from Newegg and thinking of buying it.. Here's the Link. It's a Nvidia EVGA GTX 470
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130550
I'm wondering If it will run on my current Rig... Here are my specs..
AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core Processor 4600, 2.41 GHz, 4 GIGS OF RAM.
ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe 570 SLI AMD Motherboard..
The motherboard is what I'm worried about.. I'm not sure If the GTX 470 will run on it since the MB is like 4 years old. It has PCI x2 16 so I'm thinking maybe it will run on it, but not 100% sure.. If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.. Thank you
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
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I think you should be ok,However you might want to check your power supply
Your motherboard can handle it. But you shouldn't buy it, because it's a bad card to begin with, and overpriced, on top of that. If that's the level of performance you want, then try this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150506
XFX has about as good of a reputation for warranty service as EVGA, so you're not even giving that up.
If you really want to stay with Nvidia for some reason, then you could try paying more for something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127552
Or you could give up some performance and save some money for this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162055
Or you could wait until around the end of the month and the GeForce GTX 560 will likely launch. It will basically be the same GPU as the GTX 460, except a respin for higher yields so that Nvidia should be able to launch cards based on fully functional GPUs without having ti disable part.
Regardless of the upgrade, you'd best check your power supply. I'd particularly worry about the GTX 470 or GTX 570 frying it, as those take really a lot more power than what you have.
Yep your mb can handle it,and u should buy it .
if u wish cheaper gf card then buy it gts250
if there is limit i mean to reach and then overcome it!
His CPU is an Athlon 64 x2 4600+
There's not really any point in getting a GTX 470 or 570 with that CPU.
Yeah, you're right. I hadn't noticed that.
Get a new system with a Core i5 2500 in a P67 motherboard and other hardware to match and then there will be a point in a video card upgrade.
The motherboard is an AM2+ motherboard and supports up to a Phenom II X4 955 CPU though so you could buy a Phenom II X4 955 for $145 and a Geforce GTX 460 1GB for $160. That way you can put off upgrading your mobo and RAM for later.
Better check with Asus before you try that. I can't find it on their site. Apparently it's Socket AM2, and predates AM2+ by at least a year and a half. It's far from automatic that a five year old motherboard would still have BIOS updates to support the latest and greatest new processors. Even if there were a BIOS update available, unless the power delivery system was massively overkill in its day, it wouldn't be able to handle a 125 W Phenom II.
edit: double checked it. The M2N32 is a 590 chipset and the M2N is the 570 chipset so OP might want to double check the mobo model. The M2N32 supports up to 945 and the M2N supports up to 955. Both are listed as 95W though even though those CPUs are 125W and the mobos do support up to 125W with other CPUs so the power is there. Could just get a 555 @ 80W to be safe.
I just upgraded my card from a 8800 gts as well. I got a GTX 470 SE 1 gig card ($150). I have an ASUS motherboard like yours. Runs good. The card has two 6 pin connectors so I upgraded my power supply to this
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=42532&vpn=CMPSU-650HX&manufacture=Corsair&promoid=1276
The processor is an E8400 Dual core processor at 3.0 ghz
The search function on Asus' site found some similarly named motherboards, but not the one that the original poster has. It can't be Socket AM2+, as the motherboard was released long before there was a Socket AM2+. Socket AM2+ was released for use with the Phenom processors, and if those were out, then why get an older Athlon 64 X2 and not a Phenom (or, for that matter, Core 2)?
There is no such card. You might mean a GTX 460 SE, which is a (further) cut down version of a GTX 460, and not the same card at all.
Your processor is about 50% faster than that of the original poster, so you're not nearly as processor-bound with a given card as he would be.
Better check with Asus before you try that. I can't find it on their site. Apparently it's Socket AM2, and predates AM2+ by at least a year and a half. It's far from automatic that a five year old motherboard would still have BIOS updates to support the latest and greatest new processors. Even if there were a BIOS update available, unless the power delivery system was massively overkill in its day, it wouldn't be able to handle a 125 W Phenom II.
Yea I had checked first. It only showed up if you bring up the full product list and then it showed in both the Am2 and AM2+ section. CPU support list claimed up tp Phenom II 955 so I didn't bother to check if it was actually a 125W mobo. I assume you need a bios update though.
The search function on Asus' site found some similarly named motherboards, but not the one that the original poster has. It can't be Socket AM2+, as the motherboard was released long before there was a Socket AM2+. Socket AM2+ was released for use with the Phenom processors, and if those were out, then why get an older Athlon 64 X2 and not a Phenom (or, for that matter, Core 2)?
Yea I edited my post with a little more info. I'll look some more when I get on a pc instead of this phone though.
First, I'd like to thank you all for your replies, I appreciate it.. This is the motherboard I have right now..
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813131013
My PSU is a 550 Watt Antec..
So basically what's the best Nvidia Upgrade from my current 8800 gts? I dont really have the extra money and time to build a new pc, I'll do that sometime down the road.. I just would like to have the best card possible to run Rifts... I played in all the betas and ran the game on fairly high settings with little lag, just not ultra settings.. So If someone has any good recommedations that would be worth upgrading my 8800 GTS, I'd appreciate the advice
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
I'd recommend against upgrading just the video card. You'll too often be processor-bound, so that a faster video card will make no difference. Save your money until you can afford a Sandy Bridge system (or perhaps Bulldozer if it's out by the time you can afford it), and then upgrade the whole machine. If you wait until late in 2011, there will be some vastly better video cards out, too.
Thanks for posting the direct link to your mobo. According to Asus' website you can update the BIOS to version 5001 and gain support for several of the newer AM3 CPU's. It's not clear if the BIOS supports the 125W versions of the Phenom II 955 or only the hard to find 95W version. I suspect it does but to be safe and keep your investment low I would update your BIOS to 5001 first then order:
Athlon II X3 445 $77
Geforce GTX 460 1GB $160
edit: I found a 95W Phenom II 955 for $135:
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HDX955GM&show=p
It doesn't come with heatsink but you can use the one already on your CPU (or buy a decent one for $20)
So you have 3 choices, an X3 445 @ $77, an X4 640 @ $100, or an X4 955 @ $135
edit2: http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=szSFtrap7crpBaQE is the Asus page for your mobo. Go to downloads -> Bios and grab beta version 5001 (2nd link).
Honestly, if Noquarter is right (and I'm sure he is), then I'd get that 95W Phenom II X4 955, which is still a reasonably modern CPU by today's standards, and then get the Geforce GTX460 1GB he recommended.
For $295, that's a very solid upgrade, and that system will certainly remain able to very competently run games long enough to more than justify the $300 expenditure.
So basically what your trying to tell me is my motherboard is fine for the initial upgrade, but my processor is to obsolete to notice much of a difference??
I didn't think upgrading the processor meant much at all, and definitely didn't believe It had anything to do with upgrading the graphics card... Normally, back in the day I would buy a cheap Compaq or HP and upgrade the graphics card, ram, and PSU, since the MB and Processor weren't really that important when it came to gaming..
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
Also there are no settings you can lower to overcome a slow CPU.
In case it already hasn't been said, you should pick up the EVGA 465GTX instead. It has a higher overclocking threshold with less power use & less heat.
Link for Reference to information:
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Link to video card:
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No, no, no. That's horrible advice. That GTX 465 is massively overpriced for what you get. It will have vastly more power use and heat than a Radeon HD 6850, while costing more and giving comparable performance.
Nvidia and AMD commonly pick out specially binned cards to send to reviewers, in order to get the best possible review. Overclocking attempts in video card reviews are not representative of what you're likely to get if you buy the card yourself.
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Games use the processor, video card, system memory, and to a lesser degree, storage. Usually it's either the processor or video card that is limiting your frame rates. If your processor can deliver 40 frames per second in a game and your video card can deliver 30, then you'll see 30 frames per second. If you get a much faster video card that could offer 60 frames per second, then you'll see 40 in practice, because you'll now be processor-bound.
Whether you're limited by the processor or the video card varies greatly from game to game, and within a single game, by what video settings you use. Even with fixed hardware and settings, what is limiting you can even vary from one area of the game to another.
Being processor-bound is, as I see it, a much bigger problem than being video card-bound. If your processor can't deliver more than 30 frames per second, then you're pretty much stuck. If your video card is limiting you to 30 frames per second and you want 60, you can probably get it by turning down video settings, provided that your processor is fast enough.
In some games, a faster processor won't make any difference for you, as what you already have might be able to deliver 200 frames per second. In others, you'll already be processor-bound, so even buying a pair of GeForce GTX 580s in SLI wouldn't help you a bit.