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Hmm, so my friend pointed this out.
gordunk
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Rangers don't get the ability to use guns...what's up with that? The "RANGED" class gets to use only Longbow/Shortbow. Warriors get to use guns but they're only supposed to be for pulls and for finishing off fleeing targets.
I mean, I'm still super pumped for the game, don't get me wrong, but that's just lame.
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They are not rangers in the sense that they only use ranged combat. They are rangers in the sense that they range or rove over the wilderness (like Strider from Lord of the Rings). Guns tend to not be connected to those types of rangers.
Also on the topic about warriors only using guns to pull, warriors also have the ability to use a longbow and it was stated by the devs that they will be able to do just as much damage as a ranger while they use a ranged weapon.
It is supposed to have an class that will mainly (mainly, because the classes can use a variety of weapons) use guns.
They said that one class would mainly use bows and one that would mainly use guns, rangers cant use guns, but there will be a class that will be able to use guns but not use bows...
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Do you have a source for this at all? A gunslinging class sounds awesome.
Slap in the face! I'll never get this game now.
And I think it's because rangers are "attuned to nature". Guns are not. And I think it's common knowledge that there will be a "gun" class.
It's not so much confirmed, but they stated guns will be in game, and they showed charr especially using them.
Ranger refers to one who oversees a range, not one who attacks at range. Like a Park Ranger, a Forest Ranger and army rangers. For example, see the following from wikipedia:
Rangers were full-time soldiers employed by colonial governments to patrol between fixed frontier fortifications in reconnaissance providing early warning of raids. In offensive operations, they were scouts and guides, locating villages and other targets for task forces drawn from the militia or other colonial troops.
Or the following from wiktionary:
to range (third-person singular simple present ranges, present participle ranging, simple past and past participle ranged)
(intransitive) (followed by over) or (transitive) To travel over (an area, etc) with a particular purpose.
(intransitive) (mathematics, computing; followed by over) Of a variable, to be able to take any of the values in a specified range.
The variable x ranges over all real values from 0 to 10.
(transitive) classify
Complaing about Rangers not getting guns, while Warriors can use guns AND bows, lol. Good stuff.
In their defense, in many MMO warriors get to use almost EVERY weapon that you would think other classes should be able to use but don't. This is nothing new.
By the way and speaking of guns, a nice looking Charr gun. Looks like they could beat you to death with it instead of just shooting you.
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The ranger's are luddites, one of the devs even said so in an interview :P as a profession they are very anti-technology. However most other adventurers and warriors have no such problem with firearms.
I personally don't like guns in my fantasy MMO.
To each their own, but gw2 is supposed to be taking place during a technological renaissance and two of the races are supposed to be more technologically advanced than the rest.
I guess that you won't be happy when you see this then :P ...
Same and gun sounds OVER AND OVER AND OVER again are GD annoying.
Oh don't get me wrong, i love everything about GW2 so far, but i'd rather see only bows/crossbows. Either way is fine.
OP: Those are old expectations. You need to consider the weapons each profession uses (each skill is different per profession per weapon) and also the profession mechanic. Melee and ranged depend on which weapon you equip:
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014633/Classic-Game-Postmortem
RAngers hv pets.
Warriors dont.
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/firearms-for-ranger-t5566.html
Everything you could possibly want on the topic.
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Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Also, to the point of the post, weren't early fire arms not very reliable or accurate?
If that were the case I'd take a bow or crossbow over a firearm any day.
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These guns will have been around and refined for about 150 years or so, and by this point some of them have even started to use clips. In terms of where the guns are at, tech wise, in gw2 it's more the mid 1800's than the 1500's.
It also fits the world very well, it'd be most annoying if the charr hadn't developed guns by gw2 :P
True, but you can't use this argument seriously when talking about Fantasy themed computer game...
Honestly, I'm fine with it as long as there is a firearm specific class. Although I am curious as to how they'd make it different from the Ranger/Warrior.
um, "no?"
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As stated by many, including ArenaNet... Rangers were supposed to be survivalists from nature. A gun and ammo would not last for a ranger, assuming the ranger "lived" in the wilderness for long periods at a time. Thus the useages of bows and hatchets. That's why rangers are the only professions with pets. And yes, it was quoted that rangers did not like technology.
A warrior is supposed to be one adept at using many weapons. They have a vast array of weapons, inluding the long bow. People need to get the though of "warrior use bows for pulling" out of their heads. This game is supposed to be flexible. Warriors have a good array of bow skills, not just pulling. What they don't have, is the short bow. A smaller more mobile bow that can be fired at high speeds while running at high speeds.
As said, each profession has access to weapons that suit the playstyle. All professions will be able to use melee or ranged. Some of the future professions will use a pistol (none so far) and may use a rifle as well. ArenaNet have said:
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014633/Classic-Game-Postmortem
well you friend is wrong about warriors just using it to pull. ranged for warrios is fully functional gameplay wise just like the rangers.
Also I would still take a bow over even a 1800 rifle, those guns were slow as hell. Rifle didn't become better than a bow for a long time, unless we are talking late 1800's.
Oh there is also no proffession that focuses on a single weapon so there is no rifleman profession.
The class will probably be an engineer with equipement he can drop, or an alchemist.
The word you are looking for is tactician; tacticians are the class that will have pistols, rifle, and sword as weapon choices (see: Magnus in the second novel).
Also, for those looking for confirmation of a gun using class, check the known weapons list on the official wiki: pistol is listed as a known weapon choice, but so far no profession has been announced that can use them.
You could satisfy the "guns but not bows" simply by giving mesmers the ability to use off-hand pistols. They never said that there would be a "gun" type of profession.
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