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DCUO Eurogamer Review: 6/10

RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

Eurogamer has provided a review on DCUO, which can be found here:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-20-dc-universe-online-review?page=1

Overall, I think it's pretty fair, though it probably could have covered a little more.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

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  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,772

    Way too harsh.  Strange that it scored so low with the following included:

    Beyond the mission design, the most divisive issue – for PC players, anyway – will be the combat itself. Sony Online Entertainment promised an exhilarating action game set within a fully-fledged MMO, and it has certainly delivered a meaty, tactile experience that delights. Building combos of basic attacks interspersed with superpowers is tremendously satisfying and that all-important sense of connection is there.

  • FarReachFarReach Member Posts: 229

    Eurogamer has always been a terrible reviewer. Why do people even read their reviews? Seriously. Don't Europeans have another European resource?

    Eurogamer has always been a joke of a site.

    I think the last line proves their reviewers aren't even gamers. If you are a true gamer, like a reviewer should be, it wouldn't matter what system it's on, a game is a game. Good or bad.

    "PC gamers accustomed to feasts of content and polish will likely feel short-changed from their subscription fee once the initial 30 day rush is over. And while it may be the best implementation of a console MMO to date, PS3 owners should still ask for more."

    They are basically saying that PS3 gamers, are inferior to PC gamers.

    Plus, I'm not really sure where they are even getting the "feasts of content and polish" from. Not a single game since WoW has really had a ton of Polish or Content at or even near release, other than Aion, which was released for over 2yrs before it was released in the West.

     

    If you don't believe what I said, go ask the Darkfall players what they think about Eurogamer. Darkfall is not a great game by any means, but their "review" of it was basically a rant from a guy who got ganked repeatedly and more then likely pissed people off in chat and fed the gankers with his flames.

    Then the "re-review" was even worse. It was written full of sarcasm and was written in a way that was clearly to make fun of the Darkfall players.  Not to mention it still wasn't even a real review of anything about the game. 

     

    Eurogamer is a joke. If you read them for any real content, you should be ashamed of yourself.

  • ZeroxinZeroxin Member UncommonPosts: 2,515

    Originally posted by holdenhamlet

    Way too harsh.  Strange that it scored so low with the following included:

    Beyond the mission design, the most divisive issue – for PC players, anyway – will be the combat itself. Sony Online Entertainment promised an exhilarating action game set within a fully-fledged MMO, and it has certainly delivered a meaty, tactile experience that delights. Building combos of basic attacks interspersed with superpowers is tremendously satisfying and that all-important sense of connection is there.

    Everything he said up to "that all-important sense of connection is there." is pretty spot on but I'll be damned if the combat didn't lack connection. Some moves just don't feel like they do their job.

    And its funny 'cos when I rated DCUO on MMORPG.com ratings, it rounded up to 5.8 lol. Pretty much, I guess me and the writer see eye to eye, except for the part about the "sense of connection".The game remains fun nonetheless.

    This is not a game.

  • KazaraKazara Member UncommonPosts: 1,086

    I believe the Eurogamer review spot on. It is not a bought-and-paid-for review that some game sites publish. While many enjoy the combat, the game certainly has problems and limitations which were well disclosed in the review.

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  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751

    WoW wasn't polished at all on launch, so lets not look through THOSE rose tinted glasses.

    Here's my opinion:

    I tend to agree with the reviewer.  The problem is they are basing the review on the current state of the game.  And that's cool.  I expect that.  What is left to be seen is if this game really holds future/promise.  IF the content updates flow, THEN the game will meet/exceed expectations.  I think most are holding their breath until THAT becomes obvious.

    While I enjoy the game, the game is fairly shallow for what I EXPECT from MMO's currently.  That's not saying it's a BAD game, I just expect more content.  If they begin launching content before my sub expires, I will continue to sub.  Otherwise I may come back in a few months.  I've debated with myself getting a lifetime since SOE CLEARLY keeps their games WELL past their primes.  Seems like the best idea, that way I can meander in and out on a whim rather than resubbing every time I feel the need to go in game and shoot the shizzle :-)

  • HeretiqueHeretique Member RarePosts: 1,536

    Originally posted by Rohn

    Eurogamer has provided a review on DCUO, which can be found here:

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-20-dc-universe-online-review?page=1

    Overall, I think it's pretty fair, though it probably could have covered a little more.

    Will have to agree, the review is fair and does shead some light on DCUO. The game is fun but still curious to see if SOE will hold up on the monthly content.

  • DraemosDraemos Member UncommonPosts: 1,521

    Eurogamer is an embarrassment to the gaming review community.  Especially when it comes to MMOs.

  • HerodesHerodes Member UncommonPosts: 1,494

    At FarReach

    Sorry, you sound a little bit biased here. Let me explain:


    "PC gamers accustomed to feasts of content and polish will likely feel short-changed from their subscription fee once the initial 30 day rush is over. And while it may be the best implementation of a console MMO to date, PS3 owners should still ask for more."

    They are basically saying that PS3 gamers, are inferior to PC gamers.


    It is not a secret that PCs have by far more RAM and Input possibilities. And the reviewer added "PS3 owners should still ask for more."
    My conclusion is he basically said "there is more possible on both platforms."


    And about Darkfall... Let´s say it was a bumpy release.

  • therain93therain93 Member UncommonPosts: 2,039

    Originally posted by FarReach

    Eurogamer has always been a terrible reviewer. Why do people even read their reviews? Seriously. Don't Europeans have another European resource?

    Eurogamer has always been a joke of a site.

    I think the last line proves their reviewers aren't even gamers. If you are a true gamer, like a reviewer should be, it wouldn't matter what system it's on, a game is a game. Good or bad.

    "PC gamers accustomed to feasts of content and polish will likely feel short-changed from their subscription fee once the initial 30 day rush is over. And while it may be the best implementation of a console MMO to date, PS3 owners should still ask for more."

    They are basically saying that PS3 gamers, are inferior to PC gamers.

    Plus, I'm not really sure where they are even getting the "feasts of content and polish" from. Not a single game since WoW has really had a ton of Polish or Content at or even near release, other than Aion, which was released for over 2yrs before it was released in the West.

     

    If you don't believe what I said, go ask the Darkfall players what they think about Eurogamer. Darkfall is not a great game by any means, but their "review" of it was basically a rant from a guy who got ganked repeatedly and more then likely pissed people off in chat and fed the gankers with his flames.

    Then the "re-review" was even worse. It was written full of sarcasm and was written in a way that was clearly to make fun of the Darkfall players.  Not to mention it still wasn't even a real review of anything about the game. 

     

    Eurogamer is a joke. If you read them for any real content, you should be ashamed of yourself.

     And yet...metacritic factors in Eurogamer's reviews, but not mmorpg.com's.....hmmmmmmmmm.

    https://metacritic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1508/session/L3NpZC9jRDM2bEpraw%3D%3D/sno/0

  • isikierrageisikierrage Member Posts: 12

    Tor godt a terrible review from eurogamer 2 .

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004

    Originally posted by Kazara

    I believe the Eurogamer review spot on. It is not a bought-and-paid-for review that some game sites publish. While many enjoy the combat, the game certainly has problems and limitations which were well disclosed in the review.

    Tend to agree, the review was concise and to the point, explaining both the positive and negative aspects of the game, anyone who thinks that Eurogamer are misinformed or wrong, will probably find that further reviews from other gaming magazines etc, will just be saying more of the same kind of thing. The Fanbois may not be pleased, but the review is honest, and not all bad. Even if the perception is that it is a bad review, it does point out quite a few good things about the game, even though it does highlight the fact that this game doesn't support PC users as much as it does the PS3 ones - the bit where it highlights that not all gamepads are supported is interesting though, as PC gamepads do tend to be 'programmable' a feature that the game does not seem to like, whether by design or a porting issue from the PS3 remains to be seen.

  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

    Originally posted by Draemos

    Eurogamer is an embarrassment to the gaming review community.  Especially when it comes to MMOs.

     

    Bashing Eurogamer, instead of refuting the accuracy of this specific review, just makes the review look all the more accurate.

    Seriously, the review does a pretty workman-like job of discussing the positive and negative aspects of the game.  While I think they could have gone a little more in-depth on both counts, it's a pretty accurate and fair review.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • Germaximus_SGermaximus_S Member UncommonPosts: 1,061

    Why bash eurogamer?

    I dont know them myself or anything but i have no problem reading different opinions from different people especially in different parts of the world.

     

    I just read it and i dont think its a bad review at all. i dont agree with all points especially the one about feeling empty, yes the quest areas are more populated but when im flying from one place to another so far in my experience its impossible not to run across other super villains or heroes no matter where you are.

    And i also love the mouse/keyboard controls. :p I dont think its such a bad review tho at all and i love this game.

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  • JLVDBJLVDB Member Posts: 281

    Eurogamer scores on X/10.

    DarkFall:  2

    Final Fantasy14:  5

    Aion: 7

    DC U Online: 6

    Star Trek : 7

    and Cataclysm: 10.

    It seems pretty logical to me. I think they review it from a ... video game point, which after all MMORPG's are.

  • TribeofOneTribeofOne Member UncommonPosts: 1,006

    DCUO is fine for an arcade game but its not worth the monthly sub of a MMO...if only my pc had a slot for quarters/tokens

    the review  imo was generous.

    NGE within 6months.

  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575

    I think DCUO is somewhere between a 6-7 out of 10.  But I could see it getting better over time and becoming an 8. 

  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

    Originally posted by TribeofOne

    DCUO is fine for an arcade game but its not worth the monthly sub of a MMO...if only my pc had a slot for quarters/tokens

    the review  imo was generous.

    NGE within 6months.

     

    I'm not sure they'd pull an entire NGE with it, but I can see DCUO going to a reduced sub price, or the game adopting a F2P model.

    Right now, DCUO really doesn't offer enough to justify a standard MMO sub cost.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039

    I find the review to be good and fair overall.

    They take the pro's and con's and put them together. There is some things that I think is wrong, but it's their perception not mine.

     

    "Wonderfully frantic and visceral though the combat is, the target-lock system has a tendency to pick the one enemy you wouldn't want to engage. It sends you lunging not towards the remaining mob in your pack, but whizzing and slicing into one fresh group after another."

    This is a problem, I'm not bothered with it so much as I am aware to look for where the reticule is locked, they put it up for the reader to decide and make judgement.

     

    Reading more from the review I find some things that I disagree with,  for instance:

    "But the beauty and freedom of the world have come at a cost. A sense of emptiness abounds, save for traffic on the horizon and crudely animated characters in the distance. Population is limited to specific quest locations and the streets are deserted, more often than not. As you look around at the magnificent buildings, it's hard to imagine that there's a world of wants, hopes and dreams worth saving behind these windows."

    I can't really say that I feel that the streets are deserted and that there is a feel of emptiness (anywhere).

     

    I really like the game I dug into it the moment I got it and have tested alot of different characters, I made evenings of only world PVP and other evenings with only PVE. And, yeah, I really love the game and it is one of the most fun MMO's I played for several years.

    I disagree with the score, but I find the written text reasonable. I just do not have any problems with what they feel is a problem.

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  • BurntvetBurntvet Member RarePosts: 3,465

    Originally posted by Rohn

    Originally posted by TribeofOne

    DCUO is fine for an arcade game but its not worth the monthly sub of a MMO...if only my pc had a slot for quarters/tokens

    the review  imo was generous.

    NGE within 6months.

     

    I'm not sure they'd pull an entire NGE with it, but I can see DCUO going to a reduced sub price, or the game adopting a F2P model.

    Right now, DCUO really doesn't offer enough to justify a standard MMO sub cost.

    Pretty much.

    It is short on a lot of standard MMO features, the list is well known by now, and a lot of the game design choices to not lend themselves to there being much game depth.

    Beat up guys, and then.... beat up some more guys. Beat up guys in PvP, die, and run right back in for more beating up of the same guys.

    Is it a terrible game? No.

    Is it worth the price + sub + cash shop? Probably no, again.

    I think at the end of the first month, there will be a STEEP drop in players, as the free time runs out and that will be the real opinion on what this game is really worth.

  • bingbongbrosbingbongbros Member UncommonPosts: 689

    so from the people actually playing this right now?

    did soe do a really good job and create a fun game that isnt shallow and try to get you to buy shit from their cash shop??

    or did soe just make another soe game?

     

    honestly...

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  • ubermutubermut Member UncommonPosts: 275

    I played beta got bored and uninstalled (didn't give it much of a chance didnt get past lv 10 or so).  however, I broke down and bought it around release out of boredom and hearing good stuff, and I must say, now, I am having a blast.  It's very streamlined but fun.  the pvp is a blast the pve dungeons are challenging and fun, and the casual aspect is a nice change from what I have been playing.  I also love the controller aspect, it really plays like a fun console action game, not just clicking 1,2,3 over and over. 

     

    my 2 cents, basically the game grew on me a lot and really gets fun at max level which only takes a day or two to reach.

  • VyethVyeth Member UncommonPosts: 1,461

    If this guy

    Or this guy

     

    Is any indication... It is bloody hard to get good marks from these blokes..

     

    I'm not a fan of DCUO , hell I havent even played it just read and watched things, but it got the same score as Vanguard.. And I love Vangaurd.. Guess that score means pretty decent things for DCUO after all huh?

  • RyukanRyukan Member UncommonPosts: 858

    I played a buddy key and got bored with it after 4 days. It's not a bad game, it just doesn't have the staying power for me and while I found it to offer a fair amount of fun I can't see myself paying for a monthly sub for it.

  • bingbongbrosbingbongbros Member UncommonPosts: 689

    Originally posted by Vyeth

    If this guy

    Or this guy

     

    Is any indication... It is bloody hard to get good marks from these blokes..

     

    I'm not a fan of DCUO , hell I havent even played it just read and watched things, but it got the same score as Vanguard.. And I love Vangaurd.. Guess that score means pretty decent things for DCUO after all huh?

    sorta... soe didnt make vanguard tho...

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  • SBE1SBE1 Member UncommonPosts: 340

    The review clearly states that if it was a single-player game or didn't require a monthly subscritption it would have gotten a higher score.  But, an MMO needs "glue" or "social system" and "lots of end-game content" to make it work.  DCUO just doesn't have it.  It might later on, but that just means it was probably released too soon (a common problem).

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