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Is it true Koreans are the Best PvP Gamers?
Keridwen
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Is it true Koreans are the best PvP Gamers?
/enuf said, but I came across this post discussing Korean gamers.
"Koreans dominate the online world of Starcraft .... REPLY .... "I'm pretty sure it's a cultural thing. The computer and anything tech-y is their thing and their form of recreation. Because it's a popular past time they spend a lot of time and therefore are skilled. "why are Americans so good at football?" or along those lines. But then again, it's important not to get bogged down in those 'stereotypes'." Having played with Korean and Vietnamese gamers in Aion Beta it is palpable how competitively serious they are about balance/build and strategy for PvP. Also whenever a Korean player joined a random group it was like "respect man!"
and this ...
"Do you think you could beat a pro-gamer from Korea at Starcraft or Warcraft? You can't. You won't. You don't have a chance in hell.
This clip is from the excellent documentary The Hax Life, which takes a look at some pro gamers competing in the Korean capital, Seoul. It's at times touching, at times frightening, and at others, just mind-bending."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCncvc3ASN8
Pro-gamers ... gawd .... Professional gaming has legal status in South Korea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actions_per_minute
Or perhaps it is simply down to APM. The truth is Koreans have higher levels of APM
"Professional e-athletes in South Korea have APM in the range of excess of 200 and often exceed 300, sometimes exceeding the 400 mark during intense battle sequences. Notable gamers with 400+ APM include Kim Taek-Yong and Lee Jae-Dong. Park Sung-Joon is noted for the record APM of 818"
Femmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMOs.
Played:
WOW - GW - WAR - AOC - CoH/CoV - EQ2 - SWG - FFXI - DAOC - EVE - VG - L2 - RFO - DFO - DDO - LOTR
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They have TV shows dedicated to games and matches.......yea they are pertty good and kinda crazy.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I don't know where you got that from...Sorry to be rude but you sound kinda clueless.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Americans dominate Koreans in World of Warcraft, Swedes dominate them in Counter Strike, and quite a few nationalities dominates them in Super Smash Bros. It's not like Koreans are cleaning up the house at mixed gaming tournaments such as the MLG. Also, it's not like there haven't been "foreigners" beating Koreans in Starcraft 2- the best (in my opinion) Zerg player in the world right now is an American. Simply because their culture allows them to spend such an inordinate amount of time practicing on one particular game does not mean they are better gamers in general.
I could beat them with Starcraft!
Yea, I said it oddly because I missed the period. "I could beat them. With Starcraft."
I always thought Starcraft was a stupid game when played seriously, as many RTS games are in competitive gameplay merely APM's.
There was just something about clicking on the ground a thousand times back and forth dancing your units around to exploit what is obviously not suppose to happen in the game, which was just unappealing to me.
I always liked the macro of RTS games, not the micro. Micro is just about APM, not about actual thought and strategy. Not that I wasn't any good at APM, but that it's just plain stupid.
Professional gaming...oh gosh, if it weren't for the fact Professional Sports are also just as big of a joke, I'd cry.
I imagine professional gaming is entirely about exploiting game mechanics in every possible way to play the game in a way it was never meant to be played.
someone said it was all because "Korean men all have the same hairstyle". Plus they have fabulous dandruff repellants.
Femmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMOs.
Played:
WOW - GW - WAR - AOC - CoH/CoV - EQ2 - SWG - FFXI - DAOC - EVE - VG - L2 - RFO - DFO - DDO - LOTR
Wow, lol, that was funny so I didn't realize until much later that it would probably be considered racist in pretty much every way :P
I only wish I had Korean internet. The USA is pathetic with their monopoly and greed of bandwidth. It angers me!! Rawr!!!
hair-ist
Femmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMOs.
Played:
WOW - GW - WAR - AOC - CoH/CoV - EQ2 - SWG - FFXI - DAOC - EVE - VG - L2 - RFO - DFO - DDO - LOTR
I think they have a channel with Starcraft matches but what is worse reality television or watching people play video games.
Well, at least their overdone repetitive copies of visual objects doesn't extend to their video games (especially their swords, which I assume are properly sized for a singlehanded weapon, as that would be appropriate).
Femmmes Fatales... I think I remember them from DAoC?
If so, that was fun, as I successfully entered into the guild disguised as a female and successfully lesbian'd many wonderful women. Does that make me super awesome or does it may me gay for the fact 3/4ths of those women were ALSO secretly men successfully entering the female-only guild?
Regardless, the first secret was to be stealthy about it. *taps nose twice* The second secret was to be successful about it.
Do the names Idra, Jinro, Huk, TheLittleOne, and Haypro mean anything to you? How about TeamLiquid? How about the fact that foreigners have a very good shot of winning the next GSL in March?
Bcs they excell in doing repeatedly very boring things?
"Torquemada... do not implore him for compassion. Torquemada... do not beg him for forgiveness. Torquemada... do not ask him for mercy. Let's face it, you can't Torquemada anything!"
MWO Music Video - What does the Mech say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF6HYNqCDLI
Johnny Cash - The Man Comes Around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0x2iwK0BKM
I used to compete in pro counter-strike and quake tournaments over in the European LAN Tourney's. Koreans were a common sight to place high a lot, but overall my country (Germany) and Sweden beat them out most of the time in the FPS genre. However starcraft, that's another ballgame, they do have the lot on the amount of players that have godlike micro management skills. All I know how to do is quickly react and shoot and get to cover and repeat in FPS games, not control mobs and mobs of units in starcraft within 5seconds.
TwitchTV: iNeoki
Probably at RTS. But how about FPS?
Idra is getting owned lately... maybe zerg is UP or hes not adjusting. The word is out he plays the same style too often ..
Femmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMOs.
Played:
WOW - GW - WAR - AOC - CoH/CoV - EQ2 - SWG - FFXI - DAOC - EVE - VG - L2 - RFO - DFO - DDO - LOTR
RTS ... FPS ... isn't this an MMO site? Was that a general question OP, or MMO specific?
My very limited personal experience in MMOs confirm that they were/are indeed very good and probably above average in general. But that was back on my Lineage II days. After that game companies have more or less managed to segregate the crowds to specific areas of the world.
From my expierence koreans tend to be pretty bad at FPS's. So no, they're not gods of virtual reality like they're made out to be. Just awesome at starcraft.
Yup DAoC, Excal, Albion. Well at least 70% of us were genuine. Ermmm it wasn't supposed to be about sex, was supposed to be about RvR ... hic
Pass the Gin and Tonic ...
Femmes Fatales - The Power of the Feminine in the Art of MMOs.
Played:
WOW - GW - WAR - AOC - CoH/CoV - EQ2 - SWG - FFXI - DAOC - EVE - VG - L2 - RFO - DFO - DDO - LOTR
Probably it's because if you get Paid to play games, then you'd no doubt be good at them.
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From my experience koreans are good at anything related with e-sports gaming, Blizzard and micro-management, usually Warcraft, Starcraft, Dota, WoW arenas etc. Dunno for FPS's tho, but I guess they do have a respectable level in CS, quake and other stuff. One of my friends have been in Korea and said that there are even tv channels for gaming and pvp matches, even the government is involved.
OR....perhaps gaming has a higher place in Korean culture and isn't considered 'nerdy' like it is elsewhere. Gaming is mainstream in Korea.
While I was playing, some of the toughest guilds in Guilds Wars were:
South Koreans
Finnish
Mixed European guilds
North Americans
I didn't have much respect towards Americans in general but they had some good guilds too. On average, Koreans were the best.
I hear Swedish have a very strong FPS community.
I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky
Tough to find a good group of American players anymore that want to look out for someone rather then themselves. That's pretty much what it boils down to (team based games anyway). I tend to enjoy playing with our friends from across the pond there. The times I have played with Euros they seem to have more teamwork. Not to mention 90% of the gamers in the US seem to want everything handed to them and/or nerfed everytime something goes wrong.
I remember when I played UO back in 99-00. The best guilds were out of the states, however there were definetely good guilds in the states, but if it was even odds the guilds outside the US would usually end up on top.
Did you not know that The Great Leader has won in Starcraft 2 3000 times... in a row?
The glorious Nation of the People's Republic of Korea can not be beaten.
Yeah, I was in Deceit when a Guild of Japanese Pkers Gated in. killed everyone, including me, then i called my friends got our 1 Hitters (bugged weapons killed people with 1 hit). and we killed them and everyone else
Oh yeah speaking of UO i posted some pics, you'll get a luagh
Koreans rule the RTS world but in other genres they are just average. They are so good at RTS directly because of APM. RTS is about the only genre that APM is a definite advantage. In FPS and MMOs APM really doesn't apply. FPS is all twitch based and MMOs have cool down timers on almost everything. They are definitely the kings of RTS.
Bren
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