Looks, like they finally nailed the sync and rubberbanding issues in PVP. The PVP plus the "invasions" they added to the server is really putting live into Nave. My guilds vent room had 15+ people in the MortalOnline room today. This game is really blossoming
Never trust a screenshot or a youtube video without a version stamp!
Looks, like they finally nailed the sync and rubberbanding issues in PVP. The PVP plus the "invasions" they added to the server is really putting live into Nave. My guilds vent room had 15+ people in the MortalOnline room today. This game is really blossoming
Yeah, I came back from a break recently, I was pretty impressed by the changes (haven't seen the hotfix yet obviously, but the last few patches have been pretty cool).
I haven't come across any of the invasions yet, but I got a taste of their PvE campaign with the Fab burning house giveaway (I didn't know the backstory behind it at the time, so I was kinda confused )
Looks, like they finally nailed the sync and rubberbanding issues in PVP. The PVP plus the "invasions" they added to the server is really putting live into Nave. My guilds vent room had 15+ people in the MortalOnline room today. This game is really blossoming
Yeah, I came back from a break recently, I was pretty impressed by the changes (haven't seen the hotfix yet obviously, but the last few patches have been pretty cool).
I haven't come across any of the invasions yet, but I got a taste of their PvE campaign with the Fab burning house giveaway (I didn't know the backstory behind it at the time, so I was kinda confused )
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I do play, YOU do not. Just because some people on the internet complain doesn't mean it's bad, it just means some people like to be as hateful as they can when it's anonymous. Best of all, they don't even need to play the game to say it sucks, and other people use that false information to throw more baseless insults. It's like a constant feedback loop of misdirected angst.
edit: of course, there's a fair amount of praise for SV's latest patches (as buggy as we all knew they'd be), but I can tell you're ignoring those... hell, you're doing it now {mod edit}
Looks, like they finally nailed the sync and rubberbanding issues in PVP. The PVP plus the "invasions" they added to the server is really putting live into Nave. My guilds vent room had 15+ people in the MortalOnline room today. This game is really blossoming
Yeah, I came back from a break recently, I was pretty impressed by the changes (haven't seen the hotfix yet obviously, but the last few patches have been pretty cool).
I haven't come across any of the invasions yet, but I got a taste of their PvE campaign with the Fab burning house giveaway (I didn't know the backstory behind it at the time, so I was kinda confused )
{mod edit}
I do play, YOU do not. Just because some people on the internet complain doesn't mean it's bad, it just means some people like to be as hateful as they can when it's anonymous. Best of all, they don't even need to play the game to say it sucks, and other people use that false information to throw more baseless insults. It's like a constant feedback loop of misdirected angst.
Actually my sub ran out a day before that last patch. And that last patch was horrible and that was the concensus of the PLAYERS not people NOT playing. Go to the PLAYER section and read up on it. Now I know not to even think there is anything valid to any of your arguements after that BLATANT lie. The last patch was very very bad even the devs addressed that.
I do play, YOU do not. Just because some people on the internet complain doesn't mean it's bad, it just means some people like to be as hateful as they can when it's anonymous. Best of all, they don't even need to play the game to say it sucks, and other people use that false information to throw more baseless insults. It's like a constant feedback loop of misdirected angst.
Actually my sub ran out a day before that last patch. And that last patch was horrible and that was the concensus of the PLAYERS not people NOT playing. Go to the PLAYER section and read up on it. Now I know not to even think there is anything valid to any of your arguements after that BLATANT lie. The last patch was very very bad even the devs addressed that.
He agrees that it made the game "basicly unplayable". Then of course the NGF event was cancelled with the following reason "We will be postponing tomorrows NGF event, hoping that the pvp combat improves by next Saturday for a better experience, both for the fighters as well as the viewers." So it should be self-evident that if someone is calling that patch "pretty good" they are offbase from the majority of players and the actual CEO of the company.
So yeah... truth is easy to find.
The issue now is whether or not this SECOND hotfix actually fixed the game (the first one didn't). I honestly don't know. Then.... if it IS fixed... is it enough to bring back the people who quit after the latest fiasco? Again... I don't know that answer... yet.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
The last two patches have made the game unplayable and I can confirm people swimming thru the air, running thru walls, sinking into the ground, riding five horses sideways. Too many to name. This entire issue is about a failed prediction system they want in the game so they do not have to move their server to the USA where the majority of their players are. They would like the game to work in a a way where even if you have a ping of 5000 you can kill people. Fact is that has never worked and never will work it only allows people to freeze time and kill you basically because if youre dead on their screen youre dead in the game. Even if you have a a ping of 50 vs their 5000.
I am amazed that the game is still afloat with the horrible decisions that have been made by the staff in the past. A lot of people I have been playing with have unsubbed and started playing games like LoL. They told me they would be back if SV got their stuff together. I can confirm that zergs I used to fight that were 30 deep are now 10 deep as well. Take it for what its worth the state of the game is horrible. I believe they can fix the last patches but thats not the issue. They need to patch one thing at a time only because it is clear they are incapable of patching multiple things at a time. They cause far more problems then they ever fix.
The last two patches have made the game unplayable and I can confirm people swimming thru the air, running thru walls, sinking into the ground, riding five horses sideways. Too many to name. This entire issue is about a failed prediction system they want in the game so they do not have to move their server to the USA where the majority of their players are. They would like the game to work in a a way where even if you have a ping of 5000 you can kill people. Fact is that has never worked and never will work it only allows people to freeze time and kill you basically because if youre dead on their screen youre dead in the game. Even if you have a a ping of 50 vs their 5000.
I am amazed that the game is still afloat with the horrible decisions that have been made by the staff in the past. A lot of people I have been playing with have unsubbed and started playing games like LoL. They told me they would be back if SV got their stuff together. I can confirm that zergs I used to fight that were 30 deep are now 10 deep as well. Take it for what its worth the state of the game is horrible. I believe they can fix the last patches but thats not the issue. They need to patch one thing at a time only because it is clear they are incapable of patching multiple things at a time. They cause far more problems then they ever fix.
hard to believe, can you make a video, and upload it on youtube? whats your character name and mortal online forum account?
something might be wrong with your connection or pc , because thats over the top by far.
I do play, YOU do not. Just because some people on the internet complain doesn't mean it's bad, it just means some people like to be as hateful as they can when it's anonymous. Best of all, they don't even need to play the game to say it sucks, and other people use that false information to throw more baseless insults. It's like a constant feedback loop of misdirected angst.
Actually my sub ran out a day before that last patch. And that last patch was horrible and that was the concensus of the PLAYERS not people NOT playing. Go to the PLAYER section and read up on it. Now I know not to even think there is anything valid to any of your arguements after that BLATANT lie. The last patch was very very bad even the devs addressed that.
He agrees that it made the game "basicly unplayable". Then of course the NGF event was cancelled with the following reason "We will be postponing tomorrows NGF event, hoping that the pvp combat improves by next Saturday for a better experience, both for the fighters as well as the viewers." So it should be self-evident that if someone is calling that patch "pretty good" they are offbase from the majority of players and the actual CEO of the company.
So yeah... truth is easy to find.
The issue now is whether or not this SECOND hotfix actually fixed the game (the first one didn't). I honestly don't know. Then.... if it IS fixed... is it enough to bring back the people who quit after the latest fiasco? Again... I don't know that answer... yet.
some weird bugs did come with the main patch such as people being able to walk on top of trees.
but the response is much better, and only think they need to tweak is the rubberbanding.
heres garap giving his experince (A well known wessex mortal online player, btw what is your mortal online forum account? what guild are you in? whats your character name? just wondering?
This latest hotfix sure did warping and rubberbanding, at least in my end.
Combat prediction system still needs to be a bit tweaked, as sometimes I can get hit when I shouldn't (in my screen) but it's much, much better than before. It feels very fluid.
Hm I've been part of 50+ people battles and didn't have FPS problems, I'm not sure if it's that kind of lag you're talking about.
I must say that if you are only looking to do PvP, then the game can be fun, at least for some time.
I, on the other hand, am interested in more areas besides PvP like crafting and exploring, so MO still keeps my addicted. Being part of a good guilds helps a lot.
I'd say try it out, even if it's just one month. For me it's very worthy, but depends on person to person.
Yes linking a post by GaraP means everything is fixed. All one needs to do is look through all his posts. He said the last patch that broke the game ( the one that took 2 days of live server downtime to fix) was not bad. So I guess he is not a fanbot or anything.
And since we are talking about Wessex. I play Perpetuum also and last time I checked they had alot of people playing that game, and in MO they have less than 15.
some weird bugs did come with the main patch such as people being able to walk on top of trees.
but the response is much better, and only think they need to tweak is the rubberbanding.
heres garap giving his experince (A well known wessex mortal online player, btw what is your mortal online forum account? what guild are you in? whats your character name? just wondering?
What I find humorous is that when you typed this you were unsubbed to the game. It was with great amusement that I read your "I returned to Nave" post today on the MO forums where you recount the following (all POST PATCH):
3 fatal errors later, im ingame, nice graphics, some weird sexual looking npcs, i decide to go to fab, i go outside.
im leaving GK, and i fatal error, i then log back in and fall into the water near the bridge as i was afk running, but i got stuck, so i relogged and got unstuck.
so i end up leaving jungle, it getting really dark, had fatal while getting attacked by razor, log back in dead
So.. by your own words, after resubbing TODAY.. you experienced 5 fatal errors and got stuck. Welcome back to MO my friend!
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
some weird bugs did come with the main patch such as people being able to walk on top of trees.
but the response is much better, and only think they need to tweak is the rubberbanding.
heres garap giving his experince (A well known wessex mortal online player, btw what is your mortal online forum account? what guild are you in? whats your character name? just wondering?
What I find humorous is that when you typed this you were unsubbed to the game. It was with great amusement that I read your "I returned to Nave" post today on the MO forums where you recount the following (all POST PATCH):
3 fatal errors later, im ingame, nice graphics, some weird sexual looking npcs, i decide to go to fab, i go outside.
im leaving GK, and i fatal error, i then log back in and fall into the water near the bridge as i was afk running, but i got stuck, so i relogged and got unstuck.
so i end up leaving jungle, it getting really dark, had fatal while getting attacked by razor, log back in dead
So.. by your own words, after resubbing TODAY.. you experienced 5 fatal errors and got stuck. Welcome back to MO my friend!
it was my fault , my graphics card was overheating, because my graphics setting was 2 high and the airflow was bad due to faulty fan, so ive taken the textures down a notch and took side panel off, and only experinced one fatal error when tabbing on some razor.
but it still a very funny experince, and the stuck bit, with the bridge, was just me being stupid, and it was easy to get out, i just was bouncing up and down for like 1 min xD
1. we not freinds
2. its better then before, i used to crash, seeing 5 crashes in one day , compared to crashing all the time, i think thats an improvement.
3. the razor bit was really the only TRUE fatal, because i tabbed on it and crashed, but the rest was related to me not updating my drivers (just reinstalled pc like 2 days ago) and plobs aswell having textures highest.
im not denying the game has got it hic cups, but theres been a massive improvement since i left, like new animations, nice graphics, more noob freindly experince.
the combat and stuff feeels muchh better, i did experince the "jittering" like 2 or band something but it was like one step away from where he was meant to be, then he was there, so it not even like, he was 15 metres away, it was like he just took one extra step.
but yeah, jungle is amazing, sators everywhere, OMG LIKE 400 RISERS, IM LIKE OMFGGGGG, ITS CRAZY, LIKE OMG, IM LIKE OVERWELMED BY THE NUMBERS ON SCREEN, AND NO LAG.
but i died so fast ;( , they are deadly and you can get 200g for killing a boss riser or something but theres no way your even getting out alive.
and they keep getting bigger and bigger, the whole tunnel from GK to riser camp is filled with risers, i took print screens, u can see them in "we fucking doomed thread"
also the lovely light ray effects and blur effects in jungle when it rains is sweet
also instead of people farming spots, tamers are bringing creatures back to towns and butchers are slaughtering them, its very easy to trade and find people, ingame, theres always at least someone who wants a mob.
ive been messing around abit, but its diffently a good experince.
fab feels abit un populated, (maybe because of the amount of reds in the north) i died so many times while in north, and ive gone south, and bakti seems to be quite populated with like 8 people which is fine for me.
its a niche game, and im going to stay with it till the end at least, i like game and thats all that matters, i have good memories from this game and many more lately
some weird bugs did come with the main patch such as people being able to walk on top of trees.
but the response is much better, and only think they need to tweak is the rubberbanding.
heres garap giving his experince (A well known wessex mortal online player, btw what is your mortal online forum account? what guild are you in? whats your character name? just wondering?
What I find humorous is that when you typed this you were unsubbed to the game. It was with great amusement that I read your "I returned to Nave" post today on the MO forums where you recount the following (all POST PATCH):
3 fatal errors later, im ingame, nice graphics, some weird sexual looking npcs, i decide to go to fab, i go outside.
im leaving GK, and i fatal error, i then log back in and fall into the water near the bridge as i was afk running, but i got stuck, so i relogged and got unstuck.
so i end up leaving jungle, it getting really dark, had fatal while getting attacked by razor, log back in dead
So.. by your own words, after resubbing TODAY.. you experienced 5 fatal errors and got stuck. Welcome back to MO my friend!
How has he been making all these claims regarding the CURRENT state of MO?
Lots of guys seem to like the concept of MO.. and they want to push other people to fund that concept even while they themselves are "on a break". So yeah.. I found that quite humorous as he specifically was challenging someone else to prove their bonifides by stating their character and forum names.... while not subscribed himself. And all those recent posts touting the improvements in the game... all made while not actually playing the game. Quite an interesting concept.
What I took away from the post though.. was that even after the 2nd hotfix listed above... he still had 5 fatal errors in his first play session back. On a similar note, from reading it looks like the new "hotfix" once again didn't fix what it claimed:
It specifically refers to the rubber banding that was claimed as fixed (again...).. and it is CONFIRMED by the devs in a followup post to still be broken and they "are working on resolving this".
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Wait wait wait, rewind!! So Angel this whole time has been acting like he is playing and commenting that the game is playing fine but he just resubed today??????
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Looks, like they finally nailed the sync and rubberbanding issues in PVP. The PVP plus the "invasions" they added to the server is really putting live into Nave. My guilds vent room had 15+ people in the MortalOnline room today. This game is really blossoming
Never trust a screenshot or a youtube video without a version stamp!
Yeah, I came back from a break recently, I was pretty impressed by the changes (haven't seen the hotfix yet obviously, but the last few patches have been pretty cool).
I haven't come across any of the invasions yet, but I got a taste of their PvE campaign with the Fab burning house giveaway (I didn't know the backstory behind it at the time, so I was kinda confused )
Sounds good.
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I do play, YOU do not. Just because some people on the internet complain doesn't mean it's bad, it just means some people like to be as hateful as they can when it's anonymous. Best of all, they don't even need to play the game to say it sucks, and other people use that false information to throw more baseless insults. It's like a constant feedback loop of misdirected angst.
edit: of course, there's a fair amount of praise for SV's latest patches (as buggy as we all knew they'd be), but I can tell you're ignoring those... hell, you're doing it now {mod edit}
Actually my sub ran out a day before that last patch. And that last patch was horrible and that was the concensus of the PLAYERS not people NOT playing. Go to the PLAYER section and read up on it. Now I know not to even think there is anything valid to any of your arguements after that BLATANT lie. The last patch was very very bad even the devs addressed that.
It's obvious who was telling the truth about the last patch. Simply read the words of the CEO of Starvault: http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/58184-i-would-like-know-how-melee-feels-now.html#post1094807
He agrees that it made the game "basicly unplayable". Then of course the NGF event was cancelled with the following reason "We will be postponing tomorrows NGF event, hoping that the pvp combat improves by next Saturday for a better experience, both for the fighters as well as the viewers." So it should be self-evident that if someone is calling that patch "pretty good" they are offbase from the majority of players and the actual CEO of the company.
So yeah... truth is easy to find.
The issue now is whether or not this SECOND hotfix actually fixed the game (the first one didn't). I honestly don't know. Then.... if it IS fixed... is it enough to bring back the people who quit after the latest fiasco? Again... I don't know that answer... yet.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
The last two patches have made the game unplayable and I can confirm people swimming thru the air, running thru walls, sinking into the ground, riding five horses sideways. Too many to name. This entire issue is about a failed prediction system they want in the game so they do not have to move their server to the USA where the majority of their players are. They would like the game to work in a a way where even if you have a ping of 5000 you can kill people. Fact is that has never worked and never will work it only allows people to freeze time and kill you basically because if youre dead on their screen youre dead in the game. Even if you have a a ping of 50 vs their 5000.
I am amazed that the game is still afloat with the horrible decisions that have been made by the staff in the past. A lot of people I have been playing with have unsubbed and started playing games like LoL. They told me they would be back if SV got their stuff together. I can confirm that zergs I used to fight that were 30 deep are now 10 deep as well. Take it for what its worth the state of the game is horrible. I believe they can fix the last patches but thats not the issue. They need to patch one thing at a time only because it is clear they are incapable of patching multiple things at a time. They cause far more problems then they ever fix.
hard to believe, can you make a video, and upload it on youtube? whats your character name and mortal online forum account?
something might be wrong with your connection or pc , because thats over the top by far.
They always sound good.
I win!!! LOL@U
some weird bugs did come with the main patch such as people being able to walk on top of trees.
but the response is much better, and only think they need to tweak is the rubberbanding.
heres garap giving his experince (A well known wessex mortal online player, btw what is your mortal online forum account? what guild are you in? whats your character name? just wondering?
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GaraP
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Location: Portugal
Hello.
This latest hotfix sure did warping and rubberbanding, at least in my end.
Combat prediction system still needs to be a bit tweaked, as sometimes I can get hit when I shouldn't (in my screen) but it's much, much better than before. It feels very fluid.
Hm I've been part of 50+ people battles and didn't have FPS problems, I'm not sure if it's that kind of lag you're talking about.
I must say that if you are only looking to do PvP, then the game can be fun, at least for some time.
I, on the other hand, am interested in more areas besides PvP like crafting and exploring, so MO still keeps my addicted. Being part of a good guilds helps a lot.
I'd say try it out, even if it's just one month. For me it's very worthy, but depends on person to person.
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Yes linking a post by GaraP means everything is fixed. All one needs to do is look through all his posts. He said the last patch that broke the game ( the one that took 2 days of live server downtime to fix) was not bad. So I guess he is not a fanbot or anything.
And since we are talking about Wessex. I play Perpetuum also and last time I checked they had alot of people playing that game, and in MO they have less than 15.
You can go to the Wessex website to verify that.
What I find humorous is that when you typed this you were unsubbed to the game. It was with great amusement that I read your "I returned to Nave" post today on the MO forums where you recount the following (all POST PATCH):
3 fatal errors later, im ingame, nice graphics, some weird sexual looking npcs, i decide to go to fab, i go outside.
im leaving GK, and i fatal error, i then log back in and fall into the water near the bridge as i was afk running, but i got stuck, so i relogged and got unstuck.
so i end up leaving jungle, it getting really dark, had fatal while getting attacked by razor, log back in dead
So.. by your own words, after resubbing TODAY.. you experienced 5 fatal errors and got stuck. Welcome back to MO my friend!
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
it was my fault , my graphics card was overheating, because my graphics setting was 2 high and the airflow was bad due to faulty fan, so ive taken the textures down a notch and took side panel off, and only experinced one fatal error when tabbing on some razor.
but it still a very funny experince, and the stuck bit, with the bridge, was just me being stupid, and it was easy to get out, i just was bouncing up and down for like 1 min xD
1. we not freinds
2. its better then before, i used to crash, seeing 5 crashes in one day , compared to crashing all the time, i think thats an improvement.
3. the razor bit was really the only TRUE fatal, because i tabbed on it and crashed, but the rest was related to me not updating my drivers (just reinstalled pc like 2 days ago) and plobs aswell having textures highest.
im not denying the game has got it hic cups, but theres been a massive improvement since i left, like new animations, nice graphics, more noob freindly experince.
the combat and stuff feeels muchh better, i did experince the "jittering" like 2 or band something but it was like one step away from where he was meant to be, then he was there, so it not even like, he was 15 metres away, it was like he just took one extra step.
but yeah, jungle is amazing, sators everywhere, OMG LIKE 400 RISERS, IM LIKE OMFGGGGG, ITS CRAZY, LIKE OMG, IM LIKE OVERWELMED BY THE NUMBERS ON SCREEN, AND NO LAG.
but i died so fast ;( , they are deadly and you can get 200g for killing a boss riser or something but theres no way your even getting out alive.
and they keep getting bigger and bigger, the whole tunnel from GK to riser camp is filled with risers, i took print screens, u can see them in "we fucking doomed thread"
also the lovely light ray effects and blur effects in jungle when it rains is sweet
also instead of people farming spots, tamers are bringing creatures back to towns and butchers are slaughtering them, its very easy to trade and find people, ingame, theres always at least someone who wants a mob.
ive been messing around abit, but its diffently a good experince.
fab feels abit un populated, (maybe because of the amount of reds in the north) i died so many times while in north, and ive gone south, and bakti seems to be quite populated with like 8 people which is fine for me.
its a niche game, and im going to stay with it till the end at least, i like game and thats all that matters, i have good memories from this game and many more lately
Lots of guys seem to like the concept of MO.. and they want to push other people to fund that concept even while they themselves are "on a break". So yeah.. I found that quite humorous as he specifically was challenging someone else to prove their bonifides by stating their character and forum names.... while not subscribed himself. And all those recent posts touting the improvements in the game... all made while not actually playing the game. Quite an interesting concept.
What I took away from the post though.. was that even after the 2nd hotfix listed above... he still had 5 fatal errors in his first play session back. On a similar note, from reading it looks like the new "hotfix" once again didn't fix what it claimed:
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/bugtracker.php?do=viewbug&bugtracker_bugid=8964
It specifically refers to the rubber banding that was claimed as fixed (again...).. and it is CONFIRMED by the devs in a followup post to still be broken and they "are working on resolving this".
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Wait wait wait, rewind!! So Angel this whole time has been acting like he is playing and commenting that the game is playing fine but he just resubed today??????
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