10 years has nothing to do with anything, It's just how long my wife and I have been together, and has nothing to do with my friends. Our love has matured to be unconditional over no exact amount of time.
You are trying to set things in stone. I just don't roll that way. I have all kinds of different levels of love and they are subject to change as I change.
The love we are discussing is romantic love. You have claimed the the reason you have romantic love with your wife is because you both trust each other fully and have been companions for 10 years, yet it is a likely scenario that two friends could fully trust each other and be companions for 10 years as well. The argument therefore is that since you do not have romantic love for your friends (even those with whom a mutual complete trust is shared and whom have been your companions for 10 years) that you would not have romantic love for your wife either, because your love is solely defined upon the fact that you and your wife share complete mutual trust and have been companions for 10 years.
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This thread is so full of win. It's been awhile since i've read a post that long.
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10 years has nothing to do with anything, It's just how long my wife and I have been together, and has nothing to do with my friends. Our love has matured to be unconditional over no exact amount of time.
You are trying to set things in stone. I just don't roll that way. I have all kinds of different levels of love and they are subject to change as I change.
The love we are discussing is romantic love. You have claimed the the reason you have romantic love with your wife is because you both trust each other fully and have been companions for 10 years, yet it is a likely scenario that two friends could fully trust each other and be companions for 10 years as well. The argument therefore is that since you do not have romantic love for your friends (even those with whom a mutual complete trust is shared and whom have been your companions for 10 years) that you would not have romantic love for your wife either, because your love is solely defined upon the fact that you and your wife share complete mutual trust and have been companions for 10 years.
My friends and my wife are not in the same category, since I don't have a romantic relationship with my friends why you are comparing the two to begin with?
Perhaps I need to put it differently as you seem to misunderstand. The romantic bond is already there, otherwise I would not get married. We trust without a doubt that we will never cheat on each other and are certain we will grow old together. This creates a feeling of unconditional love, and is a something I cherish.
That is a completely different companionship that people just don't have with friends.
10 years has nothing to do with anything, It's just how long my wife and I have been together, and has nothing to do with my friends. Our love has matured to be unconditional over no exact amount of time.
You are trying to set things in stone. I just don't roll that way. I have all kinds of different levels of love and they are subject to change as I change.
The love we are discussing is romantic love. You have claimed the the reason you have romantic love with your wife is because you both trust each other fully and have been companions for 10 years, yet it is a likely scenario that two friends could fully trust each other and be companions for 10 years as well. The argument therefore is that since you do not have romantic love for your friends (even those with whom a mutual complete trust is shared and whom have been your companions for 10 years) that you would not have romantic love for your wife either, because your love is solely defined upon the fact that you and your wife share complete mutual trust and have been companions for 10 years.
My friends and my wife are not in the same category, since I don't have a romantic relationship with my friends why you are comparing the two to begin with?
Perhaps I need to put it differently as you seem to misunderstand. The romantic bond is already there, otherwise I would not get married. We trust without a doubt that we will never cheat on each other and are certain we will grow old together. This creates a feeling of unconditional love, and is a something I cherish.
That is a completely different companionship that people just don't have with friends.
Then your proof that you have romantic love with your wife is the fact that you married her; does this then mean that all people who marry are in romantic love? Many marriages end in divorce, many are for status, and many are poorly arranged, and would you really attest to all of them possessing romantic love? As there are marriages which lack romantic love, the action of marrying someone therefore is not proof of romantic love.
"Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth, the shit. Here is a man who stood up." - Robert DeNiro
I'm not going to generalize because everyone is different, and you are right, people do get married for other reason's other than love. With that said, I personally would not get married unless we were romantically in love with each other.
So...Just want to get this straight. You're a guy, pretending to be a girl, dating a girl, online?
Two words, Jerry! Jerry!
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So...Just want to get this straight. You're a guy, pretending to be a girl, dating a girl, online?
Two words, Jerry! Jerry!
Technically... it's just one word said twice over...
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So...Just want to get this straight. You're a guy, pretending to be a girl, dating a girl, online?
Two words, Jerry! Jerry!
No Im a guy becoming a girl, dating a girl online o.o And I just boughted us global agenda! o/ ^_^
And yah o.O she knows Im a guy who wants to be a girl so I dun really see the problem o.o And its far from mutilation!
Hormones mean its like...uhh...A regular girl! thing o.O Its jsut like taking this one chinese medicine thats for girls only cuz if guys take it for too long they get bewbs...so yah!
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So...Just want to get this straight. You're a guy, pretending to be a girl, dating a girl, online?
Two words, Jerry! Jerry!
Technically... it's just one word said twice over...
As I said. Two words. I never said that it was two separate words...Merely two words. So technically, it's two words. _|_
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
So...Just want to get this straight. You're a guy, pretending to be a girl, dating a girl, online?
Two words, Jerry! Jerry!
No Im a guy becoming a girl, dating a girl online o.o And I just boughted us global agenda! o/ ^_^
And yah o.O she knows Im a guy who wants to be a girl so I dun really see the problem o.o And its far from mutilation!
Hormones mean its like...uhh...A regular girl! thing o.O Its jsut like taking this one chinese medicine thats for girls only cuz if guys take it for too long they get bewbs...so yah!
Wait...So technically right now...You're a straight guy, that is getting a sex change, so that you can be a lesbian? wtf...
Do you love lesbian porn that much? I mean...I can't blame you. But...Damn. What's the point? You like girls, you have the tools physiologically to have intercourse with a girl. That's just, baffling.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
The best E-Relationship advice I can give is... Don't even start one. They seldom end well and as you've already experienced they usually cause a lot of heartache and sorrow. Faceless people on the internet should remain just that. You don't know, this 'GF' could be some 50 year old perv or worse.
Ok but then you were making baseless claims against me without having evidence to support them Youre guilty of ad hominem too! I think o.O
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Ok but then you were making baseless claims against me without having evidence to support them Youre guilty of ad hominem too! I think o.O
What baseless claim have I made? I said that you're living a delusion as you're pretending to be the sex which you aren't, you are a hedonist because you are going so out of the way to mutilate your own body for the purposes of sexual excess, and deduction tells me that you therefore aren't contributing much to society as you are investing so much time into living this lie that your real life has little to no meaning.
Your deduction is just plain arrogant o.o i mean... Srsly? O.o aside from medication and weekly consultation im pretty sure that isnt "dedicatinh so much time that my real life has little to no meaning" heck i spent more time checking the forums and playing games this week o.O thats like... Just really bad of you o.O how do you know its for sex an not just cuz i wanna act cute alone n stuff? You view stuff your way but your "deduction" is just plain arrogant o.O you shouldnt voice such claims esp since you really have no idea how i am at all.
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I do not get your logic like at all. That must mean that every person who dresses up inthe way they want n stuff and generally be themselves in privacy has sexual excess? Ok so.... That should mean
1. Body builders who flex in front of the mirrors havetextbook sexual excess 2. Girls who dress up and pretty themselves up for the heck of it have textbook sexual excess 3. People who for whatever reason act a lil differently (ex. Someone who is really panicky shows signs of panic in privacy more than when outside) Etc. Etc.
Edit : how can acting cute be textbook sexual excess o.O Also i googled Sexual excess a bit and all i find is that it means excessive sex o.O either alone(masturbation)or with someone o.O how can what i said be textbook definition then?
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So...Just want to get this straight. You're a guy, pretending to be a girl, dating a girl, online? Two words, Jerry! Jerry!
No Im a guy becoming a girl, dating a girl online o.o And I just boughted us global agenda! o/ ^_^
And yah o.O she knows Im a guy who wants to be a girl so I dun really see the problem o.o And its far from mutilation!
Hormones mean its like...uhh...A regular girl! thing o.O Its jsut like taking this one chinese medicine thats for girls only cuz if guys take it for too long they get bewbs...so yah!
Wait...So technically right now...You're a straight guy, that is getting a sex change, so that you can be a lesbian? wtf...
Do you love lesbian porn that much? I mean...I can't blame you. But...Damn. What's the point? You like girls, you have the tools physiologically to have intercourse with a girl. That's just, baffling.
not sure if i answered this but erm... Its not like im getting sex change immediately i have like... A year or so lefttill i have to make that decision... But yah erm.. I guess all i can say its likee a mental thing or somefing likethat i guess :0
as for the guy above o.O what do you mean by jerry springer thing o.O but also, that means im doing good because im on a full scholarship and i own a company that gets me money o.o so like...yah o.o
Also i dont see what your point was, person who has a post above this onr o.O can you pls rephrase?
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The love we are discussing is romantic love. You have claimed the the reason you have romantic love with your wife is because you both trust each other fully and have been companions for 10 years, yet it is a likely scenario that two friends could fully trust each other and be companions for 10 years as well. The argument therefore is that since you do not have romantic love for your friends (even those with whom a mutual complete trust is shared and whom have been your companions for 10 years) that you would not have romantic love for your wife either, because your love is solely defined upon the fact that you and your wife share complete mutual trust and have been companions for 10 years.
"Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth, the shit. Here is a man who stood up." - Robert DeNiro
This thread is so full of win. It's been awhile since i've read a post that long.
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My friends and my wife are not in the same category, since I don't have a romantic relationship with my friends why you are comparing the two to begin with?
Perhaps I need to put it differently as you seem to misunderstand. The romantic bond is already there, otherwise I would not get married. We trust without a doubt that we will never cheat on each other and are certain we will grow old together. This creates a feeling of unconditional love, and is a something I cherish.
That is a completely different companionship that people just don't have with friends.
Then your proof that you have romantic love with your wife is the fact that you married her; does this then mean that all people who marry are in romantic love? Many marriages end in divorce, many are for status, and many are poorly arranged, and would you really attest to all of them possessing romantic love? As there are marriages which lack romantic love, the action of marrying someone therefore is not proof of romantic love.
"Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth, the shit. Here is a man who stood up." - Robert DeNiro
I'm not going to generalize because everyone is different, and you are right, people do get married for other reason's other than love. With that said, I personally would not get married unless we were romantically in love with each other.
So...Just want to get this straight. You're a guy, pretending to be a girl, dating a girl, online?
Two words, Jerry! Jerry!
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
Technically... it's just one word said twice over...
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
No Im a guy becoming a girl, dating a girl online o.o And I just boughted us global agenda! o/ ^_^
And yah o.O she knows Im a guy who wants to be a girl so I dun really see the problem o.o And its far from mutilation!
Hormones mean its like...uhh...A regular girl! thing o.O Its jsut like taking this one chinese medicine thats for girls only cuz if guys take it for too long they get bewbs...so yah!
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As I said. Two words. I never said that it was two separate words...Merely two words. So technically, it's two words. _|_
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
Wait...So technically right now...You're a straight guy, that is getting a sex change, so that you can be a lesbian? wtf...
Do you love lesbian porn that much? I mean...I can't blame you. But...Damn. What's the point? You like girls, you have the tools physiologically to have intercourse with a girl. That's just, baffling.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
The best E-Relationship advice I can give is... Don't even start one. They seldom end well and as you've already experienced they usually cause a lot of heartache and sorrow. Faceless people on the internet should remain just that. You don't know, this 'GF' could be some 50 year old perv or worse.
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Ok but then you were making baseless claims against me without having evidence to support them Youre guilty of ad hominem too! I think o.O
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wholey smokes at this thread! =D
What baseless claim have I made? I said that you're living a delusion as you're pretending to be the sex which you aren't, you are a hedonist because you are going so out of the way to mutilate your own body for the purposes of sexual excess, and deduction tells me that you therefore aren't contributing much to society as you are investing so much time into living this lie that your real life has little to no meaning.
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1. Body builders who flex in front of the mirrors havetextbook sexual excess
2. Girls who dress up and pretty themselves up for the heck of it have textbook sexual excess
3. People who for whatever reason act a lil differently (ex. Someone who is really panicky shows signs of panic in privacy more than when outside)
Etc. Etc.
Edit : how can acting cute be textbook sexual excess o.O Also i googled
Sexual excess a bit and all i find is that it means excessive sex o.O either alone(masturbation)or with someone o.O how can what i said be textbook definition then?
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Same two words.
Jerry! Jerry!
No Im a guy becoming a girl, dating a girl online o.o And I just boughted us global agenda! o/ ^_^
And yah o.O she knows Im a guy who wants to be a girl so I dun really see the problem o.o And its far from mutilation!
Hormones mean its like...uhh...A regular girl! thing o.O Its jsut like taking this one chinese medicine thats for girls only cuz if guys take it for too long they get bewbs...so yah!
Wait...So technically right now...You're a straight guy, that is getting a sex change, so that you can be a lesbian? wtf...
Do you love lesbian porn that much? I mean...I can't blame you. But...Damn. What's the point? You like girls, you have the tools physiologically to have intercourse with a girl. That's just, baffling.
not sure if i answered this but erm... Its not like im getting sex change immediately i have like... A year or so lefttill i have to make that decision... But yah erm.. I guess all i can say its likee a mental thing or somefing likethat i guess :0
as for the guy above o.O what do you mean by jerry springer thing o.O but also, that means im doing good because im on a full scholarship and i own a company that gets me money o.o so like...yah o.o
Also i dont see what your point was, person who has a post above this onr o.O can you pls rephrase?
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