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What the hell, it's only money
Kyleran
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Facing the prospect of playing yet another EQ/WOW/AOC/WAR/LOTRO clone and dreading the same ole, same ole, I decided to throw caution to the wind and spend the 40 bucks and take the plunge.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and what the heck, they said it actually paid for 2 months of sub time once the final wipe takes place. Fair enough.
I have no clue what I'm really getting into, I didn't read much about it, didn't watch any videos, just sort of am taking the plunge. I did read the new player guide, woefully,(yet perhaps wonderfully) inadequate.
We'll see........ downloading the client/patch now.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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As one of the few posters I respect, I eagerly await your verdict.
I'm looking forward to your thoughts on Xsyon, as well.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Sure, I'll be sharing my thoughts on Xsyon as I progress through the game, but probably not so much until they complete the final wipe and we're officially in the "launched" phase.
I'm not a fan of re-running content which is why I generally steer clear of beta's these days and I only signed up for this one since launch is allegedly close and I wanted to get my feet wet and familiarize myself with the controls as it were.
I will share my first experience.... Xyson was very easy to sign up for and the payment process was top notch, no sketchy feeling to it (here's looking at you Adventurine) and within minutes I was downloading the client which probably took about 2 or so hours to install though I fell asleep in my recliner while waiting and when I came to at 12:15 am it was loaded and waiting for me to log in. (which I'll do this evening)
I've printed out the official new user guide (25 pages) and I'll be ready to create my first character this evening.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Looking forward to seeing you in game. /y gets you into the global chat and the populaton is very helpful if you have any questions
Gutsy and bold O.P;). Make sure you let us sitting on the fence types know how you get on.
I've never heard of this game before, but this sounds almost exactly like what I wanted to play... about 10 years ago.
Now that I have a wife and kid, my spare time has taken a pretty big hit, but you know what? I'm still curious about this game. I wish there was a way of trying it out for free, since 40 dollars is currently a lot for me (Various real life budget problems. None of your business, really.
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So I hope to hear some more opinions on this game, especially from ex-fence-sitters. Maybe I'll think about it more.
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend anyone rush out and try it, I normally never do but l've recently been playing Cataclysm (after a 4 year hiatus) and after getting a new character to 85 I'm faced with the same dilema as back then, now what?
My son and my friends all say...well, you can PVP, so that you can first get your Blue Resiliance set to then earn the honor to buy my purple Resiliance set. And even better, I can go run heroic instances (PVE) ad naseum to get the faction rep (arrgh) to buy the enchants for my PVP gear.
Then I read about Rift and how there's a whole lot of the same mechanics in it and my soul just sort of died. I had to find something different to play, so Xsyon, for better or worse will be it.
Heck, I traditionally don't even like crafting (usually pointless in most games) but I just can't run anymore quests over and over.
But gathering is great, I love doing that, and city building sounds like good fun, so we'll see how it goes. Just don't ask me to craft a Great Axe for you.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I doubt you will be let down, there is something here for anyone looking for a change from the "giants" of the industry at the moment. I know that's what I wanted and found it here
I am this [ ] close to cancelling my damn preorder for Rift (hello impulse buy) and checking this game out. I had heard about it a while ago, but forgot about it until recently. I have yearning for my sandbox type games recently, this may be right up my alley.
Looking foward to hearing your review!
I'm pretty damn tired of doing the same old stuff in MMO's as well. Grinding the same instances for gear that really doesn't do anything for me if I've already done everything. Going to another game with the same generic mechanics to do it all again.
I really need a new sanbox game. Last one I enjoyed was SWG at release. I might end up grabbing this one up. Doesn't seem like there's anything interesting coming out anytime soon anyway. Sure, DCUO is quick paced fun and I really enjoy it, but otherwise, nothing on the horizon.
Do tell though, if I build a camp somewhere, do I claim it as mine and keep people out or can some random douche just come about when I'm not logged in and tear it down for laughs?
The area which belongs to your tribe ( solo players can create one too) is a safe zone. Nobody can touch your buildings there but you. Your containers on your tribal land are protected too. Even the resources on your land belongs to you, if someone else gathers there he gets flagged as a thief and you can kill him.
Thanks for the info Kyleran, and in fact for introducing me to this game also.
Once I read your post, I just had to check out what on earth this game is. Went to the official web page and like what I saw.
Just curious, are you still a player of EVE online? When I first joined these boards on my other account in 07, I recall reading many of your posts on EVE and notcied you were a big fan. :P
In any case I too am tired of the same old, same old thats being developed now days. Just played a months worth of Aion and am tired of that once again. I used to love the common MMO formula but that time has passed. This looks to be something really unique and like nothing I've ever experienced in a game. Going to pre-order this one and look forward to starting up Feb 14th.
Cheers again for the info Kyleran.
No, while I had a good long run in EVE (over 3 years) I found myself yearning for something different, based on the ground instead of space and would let me swing a two handed sword.
Unfortunately, EVE sort of spoiled me, I find I just can't enjoy the traditional MMORPG's that the genre currently favors, I'm just not about chasing after the next level of gear to progress my character, I want to build something and defend it against all comers...which Xyson seems to be trying to offer.
And I want my actions to have consequenes and I want death to be an undesireable thing for everyone.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I also can't wait to hear your review of this game. I also have been trying to find a good sandbox game since pre cu Swg. I preordered Rift, but after playing all the betas and millions of combinations of characters in that game, I am already bored of the game. Also, after the letdown that was Earthrise, I am getting very discouraged on the MMO genre.
This is exactly where I am now.
I cancelled my account at WoW (probably for the 8th time) yesterday. As soon as I got to 85 and got geared to start heroics, I just felt kind of nauseous about logging it in and started leveling alts. I just don't want to go through Outland any more so I have a few parked at 60-ish. I see DCUO, while fun now, winding up as the same thing.
I've played Darkfall and I've been thinking about going back to that. I'm downloading a free-trial for the EU server now, just to take a free fresh look.
I took the plunge for Mortal Online at launch. I won't go back there, though I wish that game well and I hope it works out. That experience has deterred me from buying Earthrise. From what I have been hearing about that game, I'm glad I have waited.
But really, I am being inexorably pulled toward Xsyon. I have not read one bad thing about this game from anyone who has played and that in itself is quite remarkable. I will probably buy it today or tomorrow depending on how much time I spend with my new toon in the EU DF trial. I like pvp but DF is a bit too much. I hope Xsyon has pvp, but I don't want to be paranoid 24-7 like I have to be in DF. Sometimes I want to fight, but usually I want to explore, craft, build, trade - mostly explore.
Can anyone talk about how Xsyon will deal with pvp? How will explorers fare in this game?
Xyson is open PvP but PK'ing has some severe consequences.
There are three alignments good, neutral and evil for Prelude(about 6 months) good and netral tribe's lands are safety zones
due to focus on rebiulding the world. Evil tribes are not protected. PvP can be treated as sparing between tribe members or alied tribes with no loot or limited loot if both sides agree. Evil player can be killed without alignment penalty, fully looted and loose stat/skill points when die(skills and stats raise by using skills).
Evil players respawn at tribal totem after death and bounty can be set on their heads.
Tribal warfare will be introduced after Prelude becouse Devs have to come up with reliable siege/conquest sytem.
This information is from what I've heard/read and may be inacurate.
Thanks for the thoughtful post!
Well, if you don't need the money it might be worth the shot, give us a review when you tried it.
I've actually gotten started, but my progress has been slow, mostly because I have little experience playing a MMORPG such as Xyson. Face it, most of what I've experienced has been heavily on the themepark side, with EVE being my one and only foray into sandbox land.
EVE is a themepark compared to Xyson, its pretty challenging to play a MMO where you can't just look up on the internet and find out everything there is to know about a game, you actually have to figure it out for yourself.
It actually took me 2 evenings to figure out how to find food to feed myself...... another whole night before I figured out what a scavange pile was and how to sort through it. Yet another day went by and I crafted my first item... a tent stake. Ended up making 10 of them since that's all I could figure out how to do.
The next day I went out to kills animals, unfortunately the mule deer and bear I ran into decided to kill me.
The following day I figured out how to kill racoons, mule deer and coyotes (but when I found the bear, there were 3 of them, lol, went down in one swipe) After killing the animals I was presented options to skin them, take their bones, their heads, their feet, their spines..but... I didn't have a blade....only an axe, so other than cut off a head/foot, I had to let the corpses go to waste.
I ran across a campsite of someone who obviously knew how to craft, and who had left all his containers open to public inspection, I was amazed at all the many things this person had build, tools too numerous to mention, materials of every description, cloth alone seemed to have a couple dozen fabrics. (no blades unfortunately)
I snagged a few tools from them (don't worry, they were all spares) but they didn't have to worry about me carrying off all their stuff, encumberance rules would have made sure it took me about 1000 trips to do so, and since we're in beta its all going to be wiped anyways.
I've seen a few interesting villiages players have built, (can't call them cities, not big enough for that) and there's been some really imaginative uses of campfires to really light up the skyline.
Oh well, I won't pretend to really understand this game at all yet, still fumbling through it rather blindly. I've had an offer to hook up with someone once the game launches and I'm going to take them up on that offer, because learning from someone who knows this game and you can cooperate with will make this game much more fun I suspect.
One word of caution, this is by no means anything like a traditional MMORPG game, so I can't recommend it to anyone who isn't looking for something truely different, heck there's times I keep wondering, am I having fun yet? And then I discover some simple new thing, like how to craft a tent stake and I think to myself, perhaps I am.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Two questions:
Was it fun?
Do you think it'll still be fun once you figured out how to craft everything?
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It's hard to tell if it'll be fun after a while. Learning how crafts work is pretty easy, but craftmasters will be able to upgrade thier items I don't know how yet. I heard that grandmasters will have a chance to work with dev team on new items.
Building is a lot of fun as you get to shape the terrain.
You can always go scavenging I'm always finding items I have no idea what they are used for.
Animals will mutate so maybe you'll want to hunt some uniqe monsters terrorizing a village.
Later we'll be introduced to taming, herding, farming, religion with magic(simillar to druidic magic in D'n'D)
Softcap and skill decay(when you don't use it) makes it easy to change profession at any time.
If it'll be fun for you, you have to figure out by yourself, I'm going to try and make it fun for me.
Hard to say, at times I was pretty sure I wasn't having much fun (same thing used to happend to me in EVE) and then suddenly some small breakthrough would happen and suddenly I'd see the game in a whole new light.
Now with Xyson I've still got far too litlle play time and truthfully, knowing its about to all be wiped is making me not take any of the decisions I make seriously. In fact, I've gone so far as to delete my character because he got stuck in a city moat and I didn't want to spend the time to figure out how to get out.
Once we're "playing for keeps" it will add a whole new dimension. Who knows, after we go live were I to find a player camp with open containers I might go out of my way to steal them blind, hard to say what choices I'll make and a lot will depend on the alignment of my tribe vs the others.
I look forward to combat with other tribes/players as we battle for scarce resources, and I also hope to help raise a city of our own one day along the lines of some I've seen.
Will it be fun in the long run? Hard to say, but I think it will be fun for at least the 2 months that I got with my sub fee and by then I'll have a pretty good idea whether or not Xsyon is the game for the long haul.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Thanks for the review I just heard about the game thru a keyword: sandbox search here on the site. The game looks very interesting and I hope it does well. Im also tired of themepark games and so called player levels. Ill keep checking back here to see how the game pans out. Im also interested in PVP as well, in which ill be playing Darkfall for a while to come now ecspecially with all the updates that are planned and the new UI but theres room for 2 games. Ill keep my eye on this one.
Also check out Link Realms and Dawntide.
The game has the most promise I have seen in an mmo, unfortunately what lets it down right now is the combat but some changes are due before prelude which will hopefully make combat more interesting. Also further changes are planned after prelude to attempt to make combat similar to mount and blade.
I think it's worth playing it from the start of prelude just to be involved with building your tribes village with them and watching the world grow and change if you like sandbox games and you are willing to be patient to watch the game grow into it's full potential. It will definately take time to get there though so I wouldn't buy the game expecting instant gratification.
I am going to wait to see what they do with the combat/taming part of this game. (That is what most interests me anyway). The crafting and scavaging looks fun and this is a game I am closely watching.
I am grateful for all the videos and reviews that wilbonney and silentbob are making and have read/watched them all. I just don't want another sandbox game let down so I am very hesitant right now to purchase this until they implement more features.