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Conversations with a PKer

SuperXero89SuperXero89 Member UncommonPosts: 2,551

After reading this, it would be fair to call me a whiner, but I have always been intrigued as to why people are often so quick to gank new players in games such as this.  I could have done a better job with my argument, but it is what it is.  I didn't block his name, as I don't believe in condoning that sort of behavior.

 

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  • PlasmicredxPlasmicredx Member Posts: 629

    lol, awesome.

    Yeah, you're whining, but it's even funnier that the other guy decided to act like a tough guy about it. I love it when that happens.

    When people whine to me and call me a hacker or something, I always try not to be a tough guy about it and take a more noble approach. I just tell them no I'm not hacking and go find someone else to kill. This obviously doesn't make me very famous for being the best griefer in the world but it does net me a lot of friends that don't want to hunt me down. Sometimes I might take the tough guy approach for a laugh, though, and let them know I was only kidding after they get angry.

    As for why Darkfall is low on subscribers... it's not the impossibly dangerous and difficult free for all pvp world, it's more than that. But leave that in another thread. This thread should be about: What do you do when someone whines to you after you kill them?

     

    Edit: By the way, there's no shame in whining. Sometimes it's a good way to make someone start typing to you while you go up to them and kill them while they're busy typing out a tough response. Or waste their time like they just wasted yours.

  • GreymoorGreymoor Member UncommonPosts: 802

    Standard griefer to be fair, yes they do exist in DF and every other Free loot game. However for 95% of the community if they kill new players they usually just res and heal...

  • KienKien Member Posts: 520

    Originally posted by Greymoor

    Standard griefer to be fair, yes they do exist in DF and every other Free loot game. However for 95% of the community if they kill new players they usually just res and heal...

     

    That was not my experience. 95% of the time griefers kill and then loot anything of value.

  • pixeldogmeatpixeldogmeat Member Posts: 441

    why block your name but not his? Also, why do you hang around the newbie goblin area, go explore and find one that isn't an obvious PK magnet.

    You should have been nice, befriended him and asked him to join his guild if he had one. That's how I got into one of the biggest alliances on the game.

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  • sudosudo Member UncommonPosts: 697

    "Only in quiet waters do things mirror themselves undistorted.
    Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."
    Hans Margolius

  • GreymoorGreymoor Member UncommonPosts: 802

    Originally posted by Kien

    Originally posted by Greymoor

    Standard griefer to be fair, yes they do exist in DF and every other Free loot game. However for 95% of the community if they kill new players they usually just res and heal...

     

    That was not my experience. 95% of the time griefers kill and then loot anything of value.

    Don't spend too much time in the starter areas, that's where all the griefers hang out. Being killed and looted isn't griefing, griefing is the act of just doing it to piss the other player off. Learning not to care too much about your gear is a valuable lesson in DF.

  • FearmeirlFearmeirl Member UncommonPosts: 231

    so your mad u died, raged, and gave him even more than he wanted - priceless rage tells. grats bro your the man.

  • NaowutNaowut Member UncommonPosts: 663

    You play a FFA full loot pvp game and you think this is griefing? Hes playing the game.

    If you cant handle this we all know what game you SHOULD be playing.

  • peteski123peteski123 Member UncommonPosts: 447

    Sad day when you post this about a pvp ffa game and that he obviously was not a bad person,  he rezzed you, did not camp you or take anything.. growup

  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985

    Originally posted by peteski123

    Sad day when you post this about a pvp ffa game and that he obviously was not a bad person,  he rezzed you, did not camp you or take anything.. growup

    To call the guy who killed him stupid for simply playing the game and being rather kind about it is being overly dramatic and silly.

    The OP has been around long enough to know what type of game he got himself into. I'm not really sure what the point of this thread is. Is this supposed to be a tell-all about the in game community or something?

    "Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

  • pixeldogmeatpixeldogmeat Member Posts: 441

    Darkfall will turn the best carebears into hopeless crying pansies, like the OP.

    You have to have some maturity to really play that game, the roflcopter wtfbbq lollercoasters usually end up getting exiled and quitting. We had this guy named knightmare in our guild, and he was so immature, he was also about 20 years old, not your usual 14. Eventually he had our enemies hating him and us as well, haven't seen him since.

    It's like rolling into Watts ( or compton as some of you may know it ) and asking why they're beating your ass, even if you give them your wallet and all your shoes. Just stupidity.

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  • ArezonArezon Member UncommonPosts: 282

    The OP was lucky he wasn't dry looted. And the guy rezzed him.

    Quit whining.

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  • SuperXero89SuperXero89 Member UncommonPosts: 2,551

    This is all relatively amusing.  For starters, I can't say I haven't said anything that isn't true.  It isn't the FFA PvP that kills the game for a lot of people.  Honestly, that appeals to many people including myself for a variety of reasons.  What kills it for a lot of people are those who seem to do nothing with their time spent in the game but grief newbies.  I was killed three times that day (more than usual), and on the second time was teabagged repeatedly, so yes, I was a little muffed, but beyond that, I was simply curious, and I think my unemotional responses reflect that state of mind.  My thought process is that  surely they understand that all they're doing is discouraging people from joining what is already a relatively meager playerbase, so I wanted to find out why they do it.

    I can't say I didn't get some rather interesting and well thought out responses:

    "You have no idea what I've done to people in this game."

    "Consider yourself lucky I didn't camp you"

    "and people like you are why there are so many vaginas in the world."

     

    In my mind, rezzing and healing after the fact suites only to buff his already giant ego (hence his admission that he didn't kill me because his teabagging friend already did), and the rampant e-peen swinging and childish insults in the above quotes lead to really only one simple conclusion, career PKers (speaking of those who camp the newbie areas) are simply cancerous and undesirable in any game, and it would be amusing to hear an argument otherwise.

    Free-for-all PvP in Darkfall is a highly unique feature that integrates well into what is the main point of the game, yet ganking newbies serves no purpose, and I wish that the greater Darkfall community would be more receptive towards combating those that choose to engage in such an activity.  Call me a whiner, make fun of me, and tell me that I just didn't know what I was getting myself into, but I believe that ignores the greater problem.  The fact is that Darkfall needs players and the best way to retain those players is to make the transition from WoW or any game like it to Darkfall as easy and seemless as possible.  Camping quest areas for new players lacking newbie protection is the quickest way to ensure your game never grows past the nich status that it's in currently. 

  • duelkoreduelkore Member Posts: 228

    To be fair, I remember crimson king would stand at the towers and shoot me with an arrow to see if i would flag red.  Once I got so sick of it I flagged red and whipped his ass  and stole all his stuff.  The towers did kill me right before I made it out of range.  I came back to him looting my stuff so I whipped his ass again and stole all his stuff and managed to haul ass and bank it.  Later that day he would follow me around trying to flag me in tower range for literally 1 hour straight.  I eventually logged.

  • JupstoJupsto Member UncommonPosts: 2,075

    If you were like that to me after I RESED you. I would probably have spawn camped you, or at least come back and taken your crap.

    Darkfall needs more players but not ones who can't take being ganked. If people are too easy on new players then those new players are simply not cut out for the game and will only quit later on. 

    Point is ganking is part of the game, if you can't handle it then its good that PK's are making you quit now rather than later. Besides I LIKED being ganked as a noob, the danger made it the game exciting and fun. If you don't feel that way about pkers don't play.

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  • HeretiqueHeretique Member RarePosts: 1,536

    Originally posted by Consensus

    Point is ganking is part of the game, if you can't handle it then its good that PK's are making you quit now rather than later.

     

    Not sure what the point of this thread is either but bumping quote.

  • DomestoDomesto Member Posts: 110

    I think the rep system should be more harsh. Maybe stat loss or something when red and make it much harder to work yourself out of being a red but then there is a problem with blue blockers during fights and I really don't know what they can do to counter that. Could be why the rep system is the way it is and why they have not changed it.

  • VucinaVucina Member Posts: 42

    Originally posted by Consensus

    If you were like that to me after I RESED you. I would probably have spawn camped you, or at least come back and taken your crap.

    Darkfall needs more players but not ones who can't take being ganked. If people are too easy on new players then those new players are simply not cut out for the game and will only quit later on. 

    Point is ganking is part of the game, if you can't handle it then its good that PK's are making you quit now rather than later. Besides I LIKED being ganked as a noob, the danger made it the game exciting and fun. If you don't feel that way about pkers don't play.

     Seph is that you m8?

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  • Mad+DogMad+Dog Member UncommonPosts: 785

    Darkfall is what it is.

     

    Suck it up and man up, or move along.

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  • JupstoJupsto Member UncommonPosts: 2,075

    Originally posted by Vucina

    Originally posted by Consensus

    If you were like that to me after I RESED you. I would probably have spawn camped you, or at least come back and taken your crap.

    Darkfall needs more players but not ones who can't take being ganked. If people are too easy on new players then those new players are simply not cut out for the game and will only quit later on. 

    Point is ganking is part of the game, if you can't handle it then its good that PK's are making you quit now rather than later. Besides I LIKED being ganked as a noob, the danger made it the game exciting and fun. If you don't feel that way about pkers don't play.

     Seph is that you m8?

    YUP whos that?

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  • OnigodOnigod Member UncommonPosts: 756

    i hope op quitted playing darkfall making a post cus he got pked in a game that focusses on pvp and even posting what the pker said it is just sad.

     

    you say he is killing the playerbase by killing newbies that might make them quit? it does not ruin the playerbase at al it kills the playerbase we dont want so off you go

  • VucinaVucina Member Posts: 42

    Originally posted by Consensus

    Originally posted by Vucina

    Originally posted by Consensus

    If you were like that to me after I RESED you. I would probably have spawn camped you, or at least come back and taken your crap.

    Darkfall needs more players but not ones who can't take being ganked. If people are too easy on new players then those new players are simply not cut out for the game and will only quit later on. 

    Point is ganking is part of the game, if you can't handle it then its good that PK's are making you quit now rather than later. Besides I LIKED being ganked as a noob, the danger made it the game exciting and fun. If you don't feel that way about pkers don't play.

     Seph is that you m8?

    YUP whos that?

     Its Arrows m8 :DD

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  • musicmannmusicmann Member UncommonPosts: 1,095

    The OP should of been around in the SWG pre-cu days when you had 10 BHer's all on a search and destroy mission as a low skilled jedi. Those were some of the funniest times i ever had in a mmo. Grind 300k worth of xp all day and then lose half of it to a BH. To this day i still have never been able to replace the sure excitment and racing heart when seeing that red dot coming in for the kill.

  • mo0rbidmo0rbid Member Posts: 363

    cool, you got killed in a ffa pvp mmo. At least he was kind enough to ress you. I would have ganked and checked your grave for valuables, why? Because I can, it's part of the game. What was the point of this thread again?

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