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Intel releases 6-core Core i7, AMD releases 12-core Opteron

CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

Intel released its extreme version of its 6 core, Core i7 Processor.  Its an extreme edition and works on desktop motherboards.  So it sells for $1000, but the normal version should be a bit cheaper between $300 and $500.  In tests it doesn't perform much better then a 4 core Core i7.  Expected as not many apps even support 4 cores let alone 6.  Its a 3.3 Ghz part with 12MB of L3 Cache.

In similar news AMD released their server line of new 12-Core Opterons last week and they are starting to enter the market.  It should be a good processor for business computers, workstations, and super computers.  It comes with a new Socket Architecture, the G34.  If you want to use Windows, you will need to get the dual socket version as Windows desktop OS doesn't support 4 socket motherboards.  The new processors are relatively low clocked and support quad-channel memory.  For $295 you can get the 2.0ghz version, or $1200 for the 2.4ghz version.  Theses one feature a 12MB L3 Cache and operate on low wattage.

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  • TheHatterTheHatter Member Posts: 2,547

    Cool news.

    Many apps don't support it yet, of course. The same thing was said way back when Dual Cores were first starting to poke their heads out. "It's a waste, nothing supports it!" Well, obviously those did perform a lot better than single cores, because processes can share 2 cores instead of sharing 1, you kind of start maxing out when you hit the 4 core mark unless you're running alot of CPU intensive processes simultaneously.

     

    What I'm getting at, is just because it doesn't perform better now, it is in fact pushing the market forward into more and more cores. Software developers seem to be a bit slow on getting their programs to be optimized on multiple cores and as the cores increase, so does the incentive for the developers to optimize their programs to utilize them. In most programs, optimizing for 2 cores and optimizing for 4 or 6 or even 12 cores isn't much different. Usually it's just a few more lines of code.

    While, I probably won't be buying a 6 or 12 core any time soon... I'm pretty stoked about the processors pushing the limits. The future is definitely hundreds or thousands of cores, but I fear that we are getting closer and closer to the limit of how well multiple cores will perform even with optimized applications. I just hope that Intel and AMD have lots more money invested in pushing the speed and efficiency of processors higher, they haven't came out with much in the last 5 or 6yrs in terms of speed but that doesn't mean they haven't been working on it.... Intel did release the i7 series which gave a huge efficiency boost with the HT & virtuals.

  • xKrNMBoYxxKrNMBoYx Member Posts: 165

     Yup, i like this news of the release.  It would greatly be good as a 3d renderer, etc.

    But I would not purchase any of these two as they are over $1000.  But I wouldnt mind winning that 48 core server/pc with 64gb of ram lol

    Or the i7 pc with the 5970..then i can get other parts by selling the watercooling and 5970..lol

    all my wishes.

    I think the only 6 core I may purchase is amd's thuban/phenom ii x6 that will comeout later this year.  Im sure it wont be expensive as the i7 980x.

    Do you think the best thuban will be anywhere near the low price of $300 or 400?

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    Originally posted by xKrNMBoYx


     Yup, i like this news of the release.  It would greatly be good as a 3d renderer, etc.
    But I would not purchase any of these two as they are over $1000.  But I wouldnt mind winning that 48 core server/pc with 64gb of ram lol
    Or the i7 pc with the 5970..then i can get other parts by selling the watercooling and 5970..lol
    all my wishes.
    I think the only 6 core I may purchase is amd's thuban/phenom ii x6 that will comeout later this year.  Im sure it wont be expensive as the i7 980x.
    Do you think the best thuban will be anywhere near the low price of $300 or 400?

     

    ok 6 core ?they should put the paging file on the processor memory instead of the hard drive

    4 gig or dram or better on proc 2 core proc this would be a better real world system then silly 6 core

     

  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by drbaltazar

    ok 6 core ?they should put the paging file on the processor memory instead of the hard drive

     

     



     

  • xKrNMBoYxxKrNMBoYx Member Posts: 165

     Haha..You want me to go through college doing rendering stuff with a dual core or a two dual core setup?

    Anyways I heard that some programs have bad performance with a two cpu setup.  I'll just stick with a single cpu.

  • pyrofreakpyrofreak Member UncommonPosts: 1,481
    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by drbaltazar

    ok 6 core ?they should put the paging file on the processor memory instead of the hard drive

     

     



     

     

    There's a reason I have his posts blocked.

    Now with 57.3% more flames!

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    Unless you are planning to launch space shuttles from your house why in the world would a gamer ever need that much power other than materialistic wants ? Insane but it is just one step closer until Skynet takes over. :)

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  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,208

    Too bad I don't have any programs that push my quad-core i7 yet. I think I'll be sticking with this one for a while.

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


  • xKrNMBoYxxKrNMBoYx Member Posts: 165

     Haha..well I'm still running on a dual core, so im sure the 6 core amd will be around the same price as an i7..maybe cheaper..if its more expensive and not as good as a i7 quad then quad i wil go

  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188

    Anand have an article out about the new Xeon's  The Intel Xeon 5670: Six Improved Cores

    "ERP applications and OLTP databases benefit a lot from the increased L3-cache, hyperthreading and the extra cores. The result is that those applications show absolutely stunning results for Intel: the dual CPU platform is just as fast as AMD best quad CPU configurations. With twice the amount of performance per core there is simply no other option than Intel"

    "we would advise you to wait a few more weeks. Octal cores from Intel and AMD and twelve-cores from AMD will make the next server CPU comparison much more tense"



  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

    Total War: Napolianic is optimized for 12 cores.  I can see alot of RTS titles making the shift to 12 cores since they are more processor intensive and are quite easy to split logic between the cores.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by drbaltazar

    ok 6 core ?they should put the paging file on the processor memory instead of the hard drive

     

     



     

     

    Thank you.

  • BrandenRBrandenR Member Posts: 2

    The company has come to the decision of recalling their chipset. An Intel recall of the new Sandy Bridge combo chip set was initiated Monday. A glitch in the platform overlooked in tests was uncovered that is anticipated to eventually break down Sandy Bridge efficiency. The Sandy Bridge Intel recall is estimated to carry a $1 billion price tag and presents Intel rival Advanced Micro Devices an edge for its competing chip set.

     

  • emcdaffemcdaff Member Posts: 9

    I guess, for Intel to able to beat AMD, they must lower down their prices. ever since they started to compete with each other, amd always comes up with products that can clearly match up the performance that intel builts. Now that companies are trying to changer their servers that uses chips that can reduce the power consumption but without affecting the performance, amd has a high chances of getting the bigger sales compared to intel can acquire.

  • kingpin_21kingpin_21 Member Posts: 8

    Intel can't afford things like that, If they want to beat amd then they have to avoid making such discrepancies on their chipset. nowadays, amd has been able to match up with the innovations intel have, so with this gitch  that they discovered clearly gives amd the edge over intel.

  • queen_elizqueen_eliz Member Posts: 7

    Intel right now is experiencing problems with thier latest innovation. But right now the Core i7 Processor is built for gaming desktop. But the problem right now is that the price of this particular chip ir really high that most gaming people really can't afford. The archetecture of this chip is way better than the others because it scales to 8 cores that has a faster chip to chip communication and has a better job of adjusting performance levels to suit power needs, and offers a higher level of integration.

  • djnexusdjnexus Member Posts: 677

    Waste of money unless your doing some graphics editing or something crazy for games its a waste of $$$

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