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Star Wars: The Old Republic: Is Romance Important?

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

In Bioware's popular RPGs, Mass Effect and Dragon Age, romance plays and integral part in the plot. Romance is big part in the Star Wars films. Now with Star Wars: The Old Republic, MMORPG.com Community Manager Mike Bitton wonders if romance will play a part in the game. Check out his thoughts and then add a few of your own in the comments below.

Love has always been a crucial part of the Star Wars mythos. Harrison Ford (as Han Solo) famously ad-libbed the lines “I know” in response to Leia’s “I love you” before being encased in carbonite in The Empire Strikes Back, Anakin’s love (and subsequent fear of loss) for Padme served as a catalyst for his eventual fall to the Dark Side in the prequel trilogy, the Expanded Universe books and comics are replete with romances, and of course, the Knights of the Old Republic series also allows players to romance their companions.

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  • spookydomspookydom Member UncommonPosts: 1,782

    Droid/Hut threeway! Come on we have all thought about it!............No?.........Just me then.....Ummm. Seriously though, I am glad BioWare are giving us the option. It's a good resource for role-play and story telling. Will make a nice change from the normal mmorpg fare. Can see it becoming a bit embarasing whith freinds though. "Are you raiding tonight Spooky?...What are you doing whith that Hut dancing girl? Put her down!" E.t.c :)

  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,109

    I'm also interested in how they are going to manage this. I would imagine that over time with expansions and such we will meet new companions, as well. One thing though is I don't remember going Dark Side for romance in the KOTOR RPG's as a Jedi, and I'm kind of hoping they aren't that harsh with it considering it is an MMO and therefor permanent.

  • ZorwanZorwan Member Posts: 11

    <LFG Channel> [FunkyLover] : LF female lvl20+ on tatooine ...  /romance me

  • justamemoryjustamemory Member Posts: 200

    Originally posted by Valentina



     I don't remember going Dark Side for romance in the KOTOR RPG's as a Jedi, and I'm kind of hoping they aren't that harsh with it considering it is an MMO and therefor permanent.


     

    Clearly, bioware is saying romance is lust and that's just a sin jedi cannot handle.

     

    /sarcasm

  • YilelienYilelien Member UncommonPosts: 324

    i was going to jump in here and say "who cares" i play MMO's for the game and not romance. Then my wife looked at me and reminded me we met playing EQ. Me on the west coast and she on the east.

     So im going to go back to my box now.

  • silicnsmileysilicnsmiley Member Posts: 44

    It is as an important part of any BioWare product as it is any Star Wars story.

    Stop crying in my beer.

  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575

    I'm suspicious of jedi.  Anyone that can swear off love and sex is clearly warped.  That's why I'll be a Sith.

  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584

    for MMoRPGS I don't think a romance thing would help the game, it should like be on the players hand, if anyone saw a player marriage, using a cleric the bless both(in some cases/server you sould even ask to a gm do it), but I guess if it make your boat float go for it.

     

    side note: I know other games you could like date in MMO one i'm not so sure other it was a feature on it, Kabod(the whole game is not good but they have it on it)

    FOR HONOR, FOR FREEDOM.... and for some money.
  • chriswsmchriswsm Member UncommonPosts: 383

    Important to the game . . . . . I dont see it as important.   If it is there = fine but if it is not there = also fine

    *shrug*

    I used to visit this site a lot however in recent years it has become the home of negative forum posts, illogical opinions and tantrums so I visit less often.

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  • geforce151geforce151 Member Posts: 1

    Awesome all my companions will be female now.

  • floreairfootfloreairfoot Member Posts: 59

    I've played a few Bioware games, most recently Mass Effect 2, and I avoid romance if at all possible. (that's just me)

    Since we're playing an MMO i'll find a real guy, I don't want to sit in my ship acting out some fake npc "romance". For me that would be odd, but i'm not going to be critical of anyone else who has fun with it, for the sake of there character's story and development.

    To be honest, one of the things i've had trouble with so far is the idea of companion npc's in general. I do understand there use, and the fact that it's a Bioware niche, but again it's an mmo, I plan to spend a majority of my time arround people. That doesn't mean I won't play alone, I will a lot i'm sure, but I can't picture myself sitting in my ship for hours forming any kind of relationship with my npc companions, romantic or otherwise. 

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004

    Originally posted by geforce151



    Awesome all my companions will be female now.


     

    even more reason not to be a jedi then ;D

  • jeffg316jeffg316 Member Posts: 48

    Lame. I'll pass on that part of the game.  I play games to kill stuff, not love stuff.

    Played: WoW, CoX, SWG, Eve Online, DCUO, Rift

    Playing: SW:TOR

  • sablephoenixsablephoenix Member UncommonPosts: 31

    Originally posted by justamemory



    Originally posted by Valentina



     I don't remember going Dark Side for romance in the KOTOR RPG's as a Jedi, and I'm kind of hoping they aren't that harsh with it considering it is an MMO and therefor permanent.


     

    Clearly, bioware is saying romance is lust and that's just a sin jedi cannot handle.

     

    /sarcasm


     

    I think that what they're saying is that there is a tenet of the Jedi that says-

     

    Jedi do not marry (with some exceptions), in order to avoid attachment and so as not to create dynasties of those strong in the Force.

    The failure of Anakin was not that he loved Padme but that he went against the tenets of the Jedi, lied about them, and then let that love become all-consuming. Yoda warned Luke of the same thing when he cut his training short because he saw visions of Leia and Han in trouble. He let his emotions guide him, not the Force.

    So, for Jedi they'll likely do something in the story where if you do the things needed to carry on the romance you'll have to do something that goes against the instructions of the Order.

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566

    No themeparked storylined npc romance on rails please. Sandbox player-made romance content ftw!

  • Nebula131Nebula131 Member Posts: 22

    not only the romance but also the friendship or mere loyalty status could be important to your storyline.

    making good friends in your crew could help you later... just think of han solo blazing out of the sun and crippling vaders tie fighter "You're all clear, kid, now let's blow this thing and go home!"

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    I don't really care about romance in video games but I'm always in support of more content. So while I probably will not take part in it, unless it's a vital part of the story, I'm sure that there will be a lot of people who would enjoy it.

    Still, would be interesting to see how BioWare implements it.

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  • NaralNaral Member UncommonPosts: 748

    Romance in the older of the three Star Wars movies was awesome, well done, filled with humor (ep 4,5 6). But in ep 1,2 3 the romance was silly, terribly written, terribly acted, detracted from the story even though it was supposed to be a part of it, and a key part at that.

    So, in the end, I think its all based on how well it is written and incorporated. If done well, it could be cool. If cheesey and poorly written, it will suck the same balls it did in Ep 1-3.

  • ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912

    Originally posted by Terranah

    I'm suspicious of jedi.  Anyone that can swear off love and sex is clearly warped.  That's why I'll be a Sith.

    Actually I tend to agree. Supressing that part of life in a human being sounds like creating sickos. I would not want to be Sith, but branding that as evil is a dubious way. I am not sure if I really want to even experience that sort of story with drama and bad endings. No actually I am pretty sure, I do NOT want to experience that.

    The entire dark-light ethics of SW as interpreted since the New Trilogy is something I can't identify with. I love the Jedi idea from the Original Trilogy, some mystical energy field, modest force powers and the will to do good. But ever since the New Trilogy came to be, it was more and more twisted. Suddenly we had Midichlorians and tons of strict rules and that anti-love+sex ideology. Sorry, but Jedi sound a lot like Scientology to me, these days.

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  • GedeonZeonGedeonZeon Member Posts: 5

    The ability to develop relationships in an MMO puts control back in our hands.  The whole point is that we direct our own stories.  Our companions Hate or Love us based on the way we play and the choices we make.  Its a component from KOTOR 1 & 2 they are carrying over into SW:TOR and I think it is a great move as far as adding depth and a sense of fulfillment to the game.  It is just another avenue to add "consequences"  to our actions and I think it is awesome.

     

    Lets face it, if youre playing this game you want to have your very own Star Wars Saga.  So have it!  Flirt away, Han did.  Or if you want to have the emotional competence of a rock thats cool too, Boba Fett all the way.  The more options BioWare gives us, the greater experience they allow.  I for one will be charming the pants off of my crew.

  • ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912

    Originally posted by DarkPony

    No themeparked storylined npc romance on rails please. Sandbox player-made romance content ftw!

    Amen to that, indeed!

    Tho I am afraid it sounds pretty much set on rails. So if you go Jedi + romance you are as doomed as the characters of a Shakespeare drama. Which is why I prolly will avoid that altogether.

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  • newbinatornewbinator Member Posts: 780

    Keep the love story BS out of MMO's please. Nerds can go cyber in the Goldshire cantina if they want.

  • IsaneIsane Member UncommonPosts: 2,630

    Originally posted by Naral

    Romance in the older of the three Star Wars movies was awesome, well done, filled with humor (ep 4,5 6). But in ep 1,2 3 the romance was silly, terribly written, terribly acted, detracted from the story even though it was supposed to be a part of it, and a key part at that.

    So, in the end, I think its all based on how well it is written and incorporated. If done well, it could be cool. If cheesey and poorly written, it will suck the same balls it did in Ep 1-3.

    Well with all the LOre and extra collateral being developed here lets hope , that the next Star Wars movie is set in the Bioware Age...

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  • nordyanordya Member Posts: 82

    Originally posted by floreairfoot



    I've played a few Bioware games, most recently Mass Effect 2, and I avoid romance if at all possible. (that's just me)

    Since we're playing an MMO i'll find a real guy, I don't want to sit in my ship acting out some fake npc "romance". For me that would be odd, but i'm not going to be critical of anyone else who has fun with it, for the sake of there character's story and development.

    To be honest, one of the things i've had trouble with so far is the idea of companion npc's in general. I do understand there use, and the fact that it's a Bioware niche, but again it's an mmo, I plan to spend a majority of my time arround people. That doesn't mean I won't play alone, I will a lot i'm sure, but I can't picture myself sitting in my ship for hours forming any kind of relationship with my npc companions, romantic or otherwise. 


     

    I think the same thing you do, I'm used to have a female player with me, which I date 90% of the time. It's much better to romance acutal human beings behind the character. 

  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985

    James Bond is a character that has been quite friendly with the ladies for decades in the 007 films. Whenever I have played a Bond game, I can't seem to remember ever wanting to get my shag on during any of my play sessions, though. Just because it's in the movie, doesn't mean that it will translate well to mmorpg. An mmo is not like a film at all. It's not a two hour glimpse into another universe.

    When I'm in the mood for romance, I shut down the PC and say hello to my amazing girlfriend. I love me some quality immersion in my mmos, but when it comes to things like romance, count me out. That's how I roll, anyways.

    "Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

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