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Another allegation of poor GM behavior
Slapshot1188
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This time by a loooongtime supporter named Myke:
On first glance a Risar seige on TOP keep was cool, but...
Then you have a GM tell the server on IRC that its happening so that we have to fight the Risars and the whole server at the same time.
The my mage is the one to raise but I keep crashing everytime I try to relog in (10 times).
Then you have your GM controlled Risors open the gate to let the enemies in and then have the Risors only attack us and not the enemies until we are all dead.
A GM teleported our guy watching the gate to keep it closed away from the gate so the risars can open it and let the enemy in.
All in all not fun and a total failure bound to push more people away from a game that is on the brink already.
Our whole Alliance is like WTF are you thinking?
I'm sure this stupid incident will lose you more subs...
More discussion here:
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Short video (and audio) of when the GM actually teleported the defender away from the gate and let the enemy players inside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY-QFb3TfZg
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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This is really sad, I learned after the first time about TOP and within a month canceled my sub. I really wanted to stay but damn, the bugs/gm's/exploits all got he best of me. Good luck in the future and let me know when the GM's are not effecting the game.
In any decent company, Discord would have been very publically sacked and an apology with free gametime issued to all players.
Damn, Slapshot... I'm impressed. You are really efficient! So obvious, but yet you put on the face and go to work.
And hi Syn!
//Barg
Mycke is a longtime MO supporter. I think this is the second time in his MO life he has complained about SV.
It is pretty sad I really really do not know why people are still paying for this garbage.
First if you are going to have a gm risar controlled event. An army of Risars attack a player keep why have them appear inside it??? I mean if you are going to do it do it right. Spawn them outside with a catapult.
The second mistake was a GM telling everyone in IRC it was happening. I thought there was a new rule in NO GM interferance. It is a sandbox game. That means the only way other other players should of known about it is if scouts happen to pass by and see the risar army attacking.
Third the gms should of never touched the gate over and over and or unlocked or teleported anyone from the gate.
Also the boss mob that was 1 shoting the Chaos alliance inside the keep magically dissapeared once all of Ascension got inside. So they did not have to fight or die to the boss mob all they had to do is kill the regular mobs and loot all of Chaos alliance.
And do not get me started on Mister Lead GM Discord. He is the reason all of AQ quit. I rolled around with 13 long enough to learn he was 13's pocket gm. I was present when he would port 13 members across the map because they did not feel like walking. Or respwaning stuff for 13. When Pompei left and Discord took over I knew that was one of SV's biggest mistakes. A direct quote from Bizzy in vent "Discord knows who the big boys are he does what we want". Right after that discord moved 13's enginer to a siege so he did not have to walk across the map.
Another sad day in MO to go with the many many sad days.
Both threads deleted :P
I truly cannot believe that people are actually playing this game. If I were a subscriber and I had read the opening post in the thread, I would've cancelled my account immediately.
well i was part of the event and i had a blast. wile i did ask myself how on earth did we manage to open TOP's gate i didnt really ask arround (yes i was with the Invictus allied group). there was almost no pvp and pretty much all pve for quite a few hours. we didn't destroy any of TOP's assests we just farmed the risars arround the keep. there is very little TOP can complain about besides us sort of taking over their palisade for a few hours for some pve farming.
what i really dont undestand is why did they (GMs) spawn a whole risar camp INSIDE the palisade.....that wasn't very well thought out in my opinion. if they had spawned them ouside then nobody would have bothered going inside.
Looks like the posts on the official site you link to have been removed.
Wow.. who ever would have seen that coming? :P
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Is this your first MMO? Discussing GM actions (especially allegations of GM abuse) are ALWAYS deleted on every MMO forum I've ever seen.
NOTE: This is called sarcasm.
Starvault has a LONG history of deleting less than favorable posts. Regardless, trying to hide/cover up the offense doesnt make it go away. Starvault continually ignores these type of actions by GMs/Staff.
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...but if you spam or abuse the report tool, penalties will apply.
You know as well as I do this does not quite apply here. Previous GM incident was discussed freely in a topic on the forum, followed by an oficial responce and explanation from Maerlyn. It's a sandbox, and people should be able to discuss such actions which interfere with player driven gameplay.
However discussing bans ect is completely another topic.
Discord is an awesome GM. I don't know what alliance you are but I'm assuming you are the one in GK giving hell to everyone because you are all PK'ers more or less. If this is the case, I could say more than half the population would support him :P. See this is what happens when you have oneside of the story.
For instance a murderer kills a shit ton of people cop find them beats the shit out of him and makes them miserable. When you make others miserable, karma happens. Then your plead case not mentioning you're a murderer, people accuse of the officer of brutality yet it was more than justified.
As long as your keep wasnt destroyed I don't think it would be a problem... and the riasrs should have attacked other alliances... otherwise I think it was fine.
Perhaps you misunderstand the issues that the (now deleted) links outlined:
1. A GM went into IRC and told the people there that this "event" was going to happen at this guild's keep. I mean... seriously? A game that doesn't even have in game chat channels for "immersion" purposes? This alerted the guild's enemies to the fact and allowed them to rally and attack the keep. FACT
2. The GM spawned the event INSIDE the keep. Seriously? FACT
3. The guild involved claimed that a GM unlocked the gate to let their enemies inside. ALLEGATION
4. The guild involved claimed that a GM moved their player away from the gate to keep him from repeatedly closing it to keep their enemies outside. ALLEGATION
5. As soon as the guild was wiped and the enemies were inside the GM despawned the "boss" that was 1 shotting everyone and allowed the enemy players to loot all the corpses and clean up the mess. FACT
So.. at BEST it indicates a poorly run event with numerous issues that are blatantly wrong and not open for debate (items 1,2,5). At WORST it means that once again a GM took direct action to influence the outcome of a battle which is exactly what SV swore would never happen again after the last fiasco.
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http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/56079-non-interference-policy-outline.html
Official company policy. Employee breaks policy for 3rd time. Employee looks for new job.
It's usually that simple.
Ouch, and i was hopeing to try this game out. Now of what i read here i will rather save my $$ for other productions.
was a good read...
Ive had GM's interfere with pretty much every siege my guild was involved in. Ive complained and nothing gets done. Fact is GMs play the game too and they use the position to defend their guild. If you file a complaint on a GM you will also be ignored and never recieve in game help again. The GM system in MO is a griefing system pretty much.
I can attest to that Pimpin. the first guild I was in had a pretty well known and hated thief. If he ever put a ticket in he would never get a response. So we tested the system on many occasions. He would put a help ticket in and we would wait 15 min no response then someone in the guild would put a ticket in and almost get an instant response. Everytime he was stuck he would have to tell one of us to put a ticket in for him.
It was a perfect example of GM's playing favorites or not liking a certian person so not wanting to help him.
Just my two cents....
You can't honestly think that GM interfering with players is acceptable in a sandbox game (as in opening gates).. SV even got a policy against that.
Let me get this right, people are complaining that a GM actively took part in the game?
lol
I read what happened and although i can see why it would suck i think its awesome as hell that a GM did that in the first place.
Thats funny and super cool.
Honestly that alone makes me want to play it.
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Sure you can have your two cents.
However.. reading your two cents I do not believe that you understand the issue you are trying to discuss. Simply put (instead of going line by line) when a GM opens a locked gate to a keep to let enemies inside... that is the definition of taking a side and NOT being neutral.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018