Well if you believe the game will be in the spring then somewhere between apr-june we should have a release. We haven't even had an open beta yet so I am guessing no spring release.
My belief is that it will be released after March 31st and before January 1st of next year. My point isn't that I believe it will be in spring, it's that it can be in spring. My other point is that we just don't know. Bioware/EA/LA hasn't chosen to tell us yet. I hope it will be in spring, but I don't really expect it to be. Like I said, hope for the best, but expect the worst. Also, like I said, open beta will only be about 4 weeks long.
Edit: Also, if you go back to the OPs post, he wanted a factual answer, not speculation. The fact is we have no definitive release date other than that rather wide window between March 31st and January 1st.
Good point all the way around BarakIII. It might have been nice if the OP would have done a little more research himself before posting this thread.
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They're officially shooting for spring 2011, but its official that it will come out either then or sometime after before 31st of december.
i think.
I think they want to get the game out as soon as it's ready to be let out, but the official statement no longer says spring of 2011. It just says any time after april 1st but before the end of the year.
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They're officially shooting for spring 2011, but its official that it will come out either then or sometime after before 31st of december.
i think.
I think they want to get the game out as soon as it's ready to be let out, but the official statement no longer says spring of 2011. It just says any time after april 1st but before the end of the year.
Could've sworn they were on the strict 'spring 2011' statement.
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If I were developing a game, I'd push for an early summer release, when all of the kiddies are out of school and looking for something to do.
Actually Solestran, sales figures show that this particular industry is hurt by the summer months in general, especially subscription based games. If I remember the article correctly, they said that many people let their subscriptions lapse or do not buy games in the summer because they are off doing other things such as summer jobs, vacations, playing outside in the good weather, etc.
I'm not saying this game couldn't be released in the summer timeframe, but that little statistic often pushes games to be released more often in either the spring or fall / holiday timeframes.
I do seem to remember though, that someone at BioWare said they would be making a very big deal out of announcing the release date for SWTOR, so that leads me to believe that a huge convention setting, such as PAX East in March, would be the type of situation they would anounce the release date for this game. That would also get them a HUGE amount of free advertising too since every gaming reporter out their would be saying something about it.
Still, until someone comes out from BioWare and actually says otherwise, I am going with the last "offical" time frame they said, to the general public, of spring 2011.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
Just for my edification where is it official that the bracket is december 31st?
Think it was in one of EA reports, might have been the last one. Stating something to the extent that ToR will release in calander year 2011
Edit: quote "[5:19pm] – TOR will ship in Calendar 2011, after Fisccal 2011 – in Fiscal 2012" from the earnings call heres the link: http://www.askajedi.com/tag/release-date/
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Just for my edification where is it official that the bracket is december 31st?
Think it was in one of EA reports, might have been the last one. Stating something to the extent that ToR will release in calander year 2011
Edit: quote "[5:19pm] – TOR will ship in Calendar 2011, after Fisccal 2011 – in Fiscal 2012" from the earnings call heres the link: http://www.askajedi.com/tag/release-date/
So this means it will relase in October, November or December 2011? What a complex way to say it.
Just for my edification where is it official that the bracket is december 31st?
Think it was in one of EA reports, might have been the last one. Stating something to the extent that ToR will release in calander year 2011
Edit: quote "[5:19pm] – TOR will ship in Calendar 2011, after Fisccal 2011 – in Fiscal 2012" from the earnings call heres the link: http://www.askajedi.com/tag/release-date/
So this means it will relase in October, November or December 2011? What a complex way to say it.
Its a shifty way of saying "probably second half of 2011 and we haven't explicitly ruled out our past target date"
Just for my edification where is it official that the bracket is december 31st?
Think it was in one of EA reports, might have been the last one. Stating something to the extent that ToR will release in calander year 2011
Edit: quote "[5:19pm] – TOR will ship in Calendar 2011, after Fisccal 2011 – in Fiscal 2012" from the earnings call heres the link: http://www.askajedi.com/tag/release-date/
So this means it will relase in October, November or December 2011? What a complex way to say it.
Its a shifty way of saying "probably second half of 2011 and we haven't explicitly ruled out our past target date"
Fiscal year 2012 is likely referring to: (April 2011 - March 2012). Though, Fiscal calendars tend to vary from company to company, or based on industry. The first of the Fiscal year for them could be beginning of April (as someone pointed out, April 1st - Dec 31st) or it could be the beginning of October.
I'm not very knowledgable on how Fiscal calendars work though, this is just what I've noticed from doing some searches online. Correct me if Im wrong
Just for my edification where is it official that the bracket is december 31st?
Think it was in one of EA reports, might have been the last one. Stating something to the extent that ToR will release in calander year 2011
Edit: quote "[5:19pm] – TOR will ship in Calendar 2011, after Fisccal 2011 – in Fiscal 2012" from the earnings call heres the link: http://www.askajedi.com/tag/release-date/
So this means it will relase in October, November or December 2011? What a complex way to say it.
Its a shifty way of saying "probably second half of 2011 and we haven't explicitly ruled out our past target date"
Fiscal year 2012 is likely referring to: (April 2011 - March 2012). Though, Fiscal calendars tend to vary from company to company, or based on industry. The first of the Fiscal year for them could be beginning of April (as someone pointed out, April 1st - Dec 31st) or it could be the beginning of October.
I'm not very knowledgable on how Fiscal calendars work though, this is just what I've noticed from doing some searches online. Correct me if Im wrong
Yes, EAs fiscal year begins in April and not October.
EA fiscal years always start on april 1st of the previous year for which the year is stating,
For example if EA is talking about FY 2010
Now EA FY calander always starts in April because their Fiscal calander is always 8 months before the calander year) and goes to March So anytime they say a date in FY times (like 1st quater of FY 2012) Just move that time period back 8 months and you'll get the correct time period in calander days as well.
So in this case if they are looking for the game to come out in EA FY 2012 that would translate the window to
anytime between april 1st 2011 to March 31st 2012 (because we moved the fiscal year days of 2012 back 8 days moving part of that year back into 2011 to compensate for the difference)
However in the EA earnings call they said it would relese in calander year 2011 (thats our normal calander)
So that removes all dates in 2012.
Which leaves us with any time between April 1st 2011 to december 31st 2011. That is the correct release window
It can release anytime in that period. Though granted some dates (like spring and fall) are more likely then others due to trying to get the best sales and such.
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Good point all the way around BarakIII. It might have been nice if the OP would have done a little more research himself before posting this thread.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
They're officially shooting for spring 2011, but its official that it will come out either then or sometime after before 31st of december.
i think.
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I think they want to get the game out as soon as it's ready to be let out, but the official statement no longer says spring of 2011. It just says any time after april 1st but before the end of the year.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I thought it was they're shooting for 2011 spring, but that it *could* be sometime then or after in 2011..
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Could've sworn they were on the strict 'spring 2011' statement.
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They were until 02.04.2011 , 09:12 AM in which case they changed it to mimic what EA has been stating.
Source is here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=258996
Doesn't mean it can't come out in spring but they changed their official notice from spring 2011 to april 1st-dec 31st of 2011
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Everything I have read official and "unofficial" lead me to believe it will come out early this summer.
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If I were developing a game, I'd push for an early summer release, when all of the kiddies are out of school and looking for something to do.
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I think their covering themselves incase its pushed back 'at all'.
I'm still expecting a May/June release.
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Actually Solestran, sales figures show that this particular industry is hurt by the summer months in general, especially subscription based games. If I remember the article correctly, they said that many people let their subscriptions lapse or do not buy games in the summer because they are off doing other things such as summer jobs, vacations, playing outside in the good weather, etc.
I'm not saying this game couldn't be released in the summer timeframe, but that little statistic often pushes games to be released more often in either the spring or fall / holiday timeframes.
I do seem to remember though, that someone at BioWare said they would be making a very big deal out of announcing the release date for SWTOR, so that leads me to believe that a huge convention setting, such as PAX East in March, would be the type of situation they would anounce the release date for this game. That would also get them a HUGE amount of free advertising too since every gaming reporter out their would be saying something about it.
Still, until someone comes out from BioWare and actually says otherwise, I am going with the last "offical" time frame they said, to the general public, of spring 2011.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
As others have stated, BW said Spring 2011 and I wouldn't be surprised if we get the release date at PAX in a few weeks.
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I don't think it'll get pushed back. Has the same people who verified that the focus is still spring 0'11 said anything about the new target ?
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Did noone read the link i provided? is Stephen Reid not somehow official?
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Sounds like a soft push back to me.
Just for my edification where is it official that the bracket is december 31st?
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Think it was in one of EA reports, might have been the last one. Stating something to the extent that ToR will release in calander year 2011
Edit: quote "[5:19pm] – TOR will ship in Calendar 2011, after Fisccal 2011 – in Fiscal 2012" from the earnings call heres the link: http://www.askajedi.com/tag/release-date/
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alright you've appeased me
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So this means it will relase in October, November or December 2011? What a complex way to say it.
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Its a shifty way of saying "probably second half of 2011 and we haven't explicitly ruled out our past target date"
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Fiscal year 2012 is likely referring to: (April 2011 - March 2012). Though, Fiscal calendars tend to vary from company to company, or based on industry. The first of the Fiscal year for them could be beginning of April (as someone pointed out, April 1st - Dec 31st) or it could be the beginning of October.
I'm not very knowledgable on how Fiscal calendars work though, this is just what I've noticed from doing some searches online. Correct me if Im wrong
Yes, EAs fiscal year begins in April and not October.
You have it right
Heres how it goes.
EA fiscal years always start on april 1st of the previous year for which the year is stating,
For example if EA is talking about FY 2010
Now EA FY calander always starts in April because their Fiscal calander is always 8 months before the calander year) and goes to March So anytime they say a date in FY times (like 1st quater of FY 2012) Just move that time period back 8 months and you'll get the correct time period in calander days as well.
So in this case if they are looking for the game to come out in EA FY 2012 that would translate the window to
anytime between april 1st 2011 to March 31st 2012 (because we moved the fiscal year days of 2012 back 8 days moving part of that year back into 2011 to compensate for the difference)
However in the EA earnings call they said it would relese in calander year 2011 (thats our normal calander)
So that removes all dates in 2012.
Which leaves us with any time between April 1st 2011 to december 31st 2011. That is the correct release window
It can release anytime in that period. Though granted some dates (like spring and fall) are more likely then others due to trying to get the best sales and such.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.