I agree with the reviewer on most aspects, if a bit harsh. I bought the game because I was looking forward to it for a long time, regardless of what ppl in beta were saying. I played the game for a little while and was bored to tears. A shame really. I wish those who enjoy it well, but I feel like I wasted the money.
Every bit of the character design, environment design live up the promisee, love the poses, how the holstered weapons goes but the functionality isnt there. I tried to enjoy the beta but was busy sending reports more than going through the game.
The cost of this game is why i never even considered buying it... rememibed me of the fail Mortal Online was..
Now on the other hand I just pre-ordered xsyon the other night knowing it was still in an unfinished state but it only came to £25 and i got 2 months free game time when it goes live.. Now even if the game turns out to be balls and fails i dont mind too much as it was only £25 but if i had spent nearly £50 id be a bit annoyed just like i was with MO haha ..
Ill check out Earrise only when i find it on offer some place realyl cheap
I stopped reading when the author started babbling about the skill system being nothing but tanks, healing, and DPS.
The game isn't without it's issues and at times the lag makes the game completely unplayable but this is one of the shittiest and most ignorant reviews this website has ever published.
I agree with the rating given to the game in the current state, but I feel the review moved into the region of bashing. I agree ER needs alot of fluff and fleshing out, but alot of those comments were just inaccurate in my opinion,
"This does add a degree of variation but the RPG genre has never comfortably or convincingly integrated modern weapons such as guns."
You guys gave STO 7.5 at launch, that has guns and is a total pile of shite!
"There is nothing on offer here that we haven't seen a thousand times before but done with more inspiration and ambition."
Well I was rather shocked to read that statement even if it is just the reviewers opinion.
" Earthrise offers nothing particularly new as the game will only ever call for a Tank, a Healer, a Support, and the ever-green DPS. Allowing players to pick and choose suitable abilities is only really giving the illusion of choice."
I was truly puzzled by this statement, I doubted if he'd played the game after reading that.
So in short a rating that I agree with but a written review that I find to be ignorant.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
Those who proclaim that full loot PvP "gives meaning to death" never played EQ1 back in the early days.
Die, and lose days, perhaps weeks of effort. And possibly all your gear (your corpse would time out in 1 week real time). So, what happened? People did everything they could to avoid death. You never took risks, because the tiny amount of extra xp killing an even con monster didn't outweigh the much harder and dangerous fight it took to kill it. So you ground low-blues forever, even in groups (as they were faster kills = more xp over time).
""Earthrise only offers one playable race, boring Humans, and spits in the face of those other science-fiction formats with their exotic and varied body-forms- get your cloak and hat other bipedal, extraterrestrial races: you are not welcome here""
hehee yea thats why i love Fallen Earth ,gnomes,undeads,orcs,taurens,elfs,fairys etc,thats a blast!
thanks for the pro review,had to stop reading right there.
Clearly this is proof that the staff are not shills for their advertisers as I look at the front page and see this review with a massive Earthrise banner ad behind it. Hopefully some whiners will take notice.
I agree with the rating given to the game in the current state, but I feel the review moved into the region of bashing. I agree ER needs alot of fluff and fleshing out, but alot of those comments were just inaccurate in my opinion,
"This does add a degree of variation but the RPG genre has never comfortably or convincingly integrated modern weapons such as guns."
You guys gave STO 7.5 at launch, that has guns and is a total pile of shite!
"There is nothing on offer here that we haven't seen a thousand times before but done with more inspiration and ambition."
Well I was rather shocked to read that statement even if it is just the reviewers opinion.
" Earthrise offers nothing particularly new as the game will only ever call for a Tank, a Healer, a Support, and the ever-green DPS. Allowing players to pick and choose suitable abilities is only really giving the illusion of choice."
I was truly puzzled by this statement, I doubted if he'd played the game after reading that.
So in short a rating that I agree with but a written review that I find to be ignorant.
Basically exactly my thoughts when reading the review, agreed with the overall score (which is arbitrary anyway), but had an overwhealming feeling they had played an equally dissapointing but completely different game to the one I had.
----- The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
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If that review was preformed by a user, I'd probably just assume they were a troll and move on.
Breaking from the standard formula, Earthrise only offers one playable race, boring Humans, and spits in the face of those other science-fiction formats with their exotic and varied body-forms- get your cloak and hat other bipedal, extraterrestrial races: you are not welcome here.
I have to wonder what the reviewer expected. This isn't a fantasy title, it's an alternate-reality of Earth. The furthest Earthrise will likely go is introducing playable mutated humans, or some LOTRO-style monster play.
Earthrise offers nothing particularly new as the game will only ever call for a Tank, a Healer, a Support, and the ever-green DPS. Allowing players to pick and choose suitable abilities is only really giving the illusion of choice.
Eventually MMOers are going to have to realize that the holy circle of class types is all that can exist in a balanced game. Allowing mastery of certain stats means keeping other stats pitifully low to balance out, otherwise you just wind up with a population of T-1000 liquid-metal Terminators, who are not only capable of withstanding a rocket to the face, but can dish out mass genocide, heal at an alarmingly high rate, use any type of equipment they come across, and whose most formidable enemy is the easily defeated Arnold-bot.
Of course the tools of the classes in this MMO are distinctively futuristic: instead of traditional blades, hammers, and staves, we have rifles, flame throwers, and mounted gauntlets. This does add a degree of variation but the RPG genre has never comfortably or convincingly integrated modern weapons such as guns.
Futuristic in the sense that the game could be set anywhere from the early 1900's to sometime in the future. Also, guns never being integrated well into RPGs? This is a satirical review, isn't it. I think we've all been punk'd.
The fun and adventure in the game comes from the sense of an unexplored and remerging world – forcing two pre-existing sides into this segregates a budding player-driven community, and also drives away the notion that said community is building the society and ideologies of the place.
Xsyon is all about the community building up society, that doesn't dilute the aspect of tribes hating one another.
Overall, the review could have been consolidated to one page. The good points like the game lacking immersion, server stability, dearth of content, etc, could have been made in a concise manner, without all the filler that just creates the notion that the reviewer was actively seeking things to complain about.
I found this review to be most informative and well written. It perfectly describes the situation of the game and has put the final nail in the coffin of the question to look into this game or not. Very well done! Perhaps in 2 or 4 years time the game (if it still exists) will become polished to a level of interest but I will not hold my breath. I particularly like that the server lag issues was downplayed in this review as it is all i've really heard about this title in terms of cons. So i appreciate learning more about what makes this title poor and not worth a divergence of my pitiable cash resources. I guess i will just have to finish up my present EVE trial and then sub to it for the first time to get my sandbox fix
MMO shooter games are few. This game would have something to offer in that regard if they ever fixxed the lag. As it stands now, the review is pretty fair, with the exception of the full loot part, which is actually pretty retarded since you only get fully looted if you dont care enough about your gear in order to protect it with insurance.
Also, the skill system in this game is very complex and would have very much to offer the game would just run smoothly. Unfortunately the game doesnt run smoothly, even on the best machines.
This game is essentially still in an early Beta state. It should deffinitely not have been released as a finished product in such a poor state.
Even a few months from now isn't going to change this train wreck of a game. If they pull an S-E and leave the game free 2 play until they do the game justice and make it worthy of paying for like FFIX then just maybe but even then, forced pvp full loot drop doomed the game before it launched. A dinky studio like MH more than likely can't afford exended free to play to fix the failures nor can they probably afford to limit the player base to a small percentage of pvpers.
Casual players make the MMO world progress and always have and always will. EVE has been around so many years that it's had time to improve and realize it needed drastic changes but still it's so very niche that it's still not going to reach the base it could have by being friendly to pure pve fans.
"We don't like to review games until they have been out for a few months and the writer assigned has had time to run the game through its paces." - Admin of MMORPG.com
"Now I must state that I do not like to judge an MMORPG on its launch..."Adam Tingle in a seperate review
So this article was at the very latest written on the 21st of Feb because it gives mention to an exploit that was patched on the 22nd. This "review" was written half a month into release. Clearly something has changed in regards to this game although I am not sure why?
holly crap! not even MO got a 5 rating when it came out........really this bad?
It is in a much better state than MO was at launch, the skill system is all there and they have already patched in a fix for desync.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
This review isn,t that good. How long did the reviewer played ER. Some other peeps tell us that the economics and crafting systeem isn,t good. How can they make such a statement when ER is only 2 weeks out. Did the same peeps also played EVE and SWG on release date(headstart). EVE needed also alot of time and expansions before it became a great game as it is now.
No this game isn,t the same copy crap WOW themepark MMO where you can play the same ranger, mage, priester classes over and over again. No its not Aion, WOW, L2 ,EQ2,Rift, Lord of the Rings, GW, etc etc. No its not a game full with peeps crying for nerf and buffs for the same old boring classes. In ER you make your own story. The crafting,skill and freedom is great. And also Masterhead are planning expansions great for guild warfare.
Yes the game is not optimal yet, but i truly believe this game will be fine after some time. This niche company isn,t Blizzard with all the money. And i,m happy that these niche companies exist.
The concept is great and i,m happy this isn,t some other Themapark MMO WOW clone
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Darkfall is still the number 1 sandbox mmorpg. sandbox developers better wake up and keep up in the sandbox department.
FPS-Open world pvp- full loot.
Thats all its about and you will attract players from counter strike.
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Many people depend on ratings from this site MMORP and other gaming sites before buying the game which costs to much as is and half done. Good Job
I agree with the reviewer on most aspects, if a bit harsh. I bought the game because I was looking forward to it for a long time, regardless of what ppl in beta were saying. I played the game for a little while and was bored to tears. A shame really. I wish those who enjoy it well, but I feel like I wasted the money.
I self identify as a monkey.
Every bit of the character design, environment design live up the promisee, love the poses, how the holstered weapons goes but the functionality isnt there. I tried to enjoy the beta but was busy sending reports more than going through the game.
Great article to read in general.
The cost of this game is why i never even considered buying it... rememibed me of the fail Mortal Online was..
Now on the other hand I just pre-ordered xsyon the other night knowing it was still in an unfinished state but it only came to £25 and i got 2 months free game time when it goes live.. Now even if the game turns out to be balls and fails i dont mind too much as it was only £25 but if i had spent nearly £50 id be a bit annoyed just like i was with MO haha ..
Ill check out Earrise only when i find it on offer some place realyl cheap
I stopped reading when the author started babbling about the skill system being nothing but tanks, healing, and DPS.
The game isn't without it's issues and at times the lag makes the game completely unplayable but this is one of the shittiest and most ignorant reviews this website has ever published.
I agree with the rating given to the game in the current state, but I feel the review moved into the region of bashing. I agree ER needs alot of fluff and fleshing out, but alot of those comments were just inaccurate in my opinion,
"This does add a degree of variation but the RPG genre has never comfortably or convincingly integrated modern weapons such as guns."
You guys gave STO 7.5 at launch, that has guns and is a total pile of shite!
"There is nothing on offer here that we haven't seen a thousand times before but done with more inspiration and ambition."
Well I was rather shocked to read that statement even if it is just the reviewers opinion.
" Earthrise offers nothing particularly new as the game will only ever call for a Tank, a Healer, a Support, and the ever-green DPS. Allowing players to pick and choose suitable abilities is only really giving the illusion of choice."
I was truly puzzled by this statement, I doubted if he'd played the game after reading that.
So in short a rating that I agree with but a written review that I find to be ignorant.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
you never played a necromancer in EQ1, right?
played: Everquest I (6 years), EVE (3 years)
months: EQII, Vanguard, Siedler Online, SWTOR, Guild Wars 2
weeks: WoW, Shaiya, Darkfall, Florensia, Entropia, Aion, Lotro, Fallen Earth, Uncharted Waters
days: DDO, RoM, FFXIV, STO, Atlantica, PotBS, Maestia, WAR, AoC, Gods&Heroes, Cultures, RIFT, Forsaken World, Allodds
Never buy a MMO that has no open beta until long after launch.
No, thats EVE. Darkfall is the #1 fantasy sandbox.
Sadly Darkfall is not really a full sandbox game.. tho it is awesome
""Earthrise only offers one playable race, boring Humans, and spits in the face of those other science-fiction formats with their exotic and varied body-forms- get your cloak and hat other bipedal, extraterrestrial races: you are not welcome here""
hehee yea thats why i love Fallen Earth ,gnomes,undeads,orcs,taurens,elfs,fairys etc,thats a blast!
thanks for the pro review,had to stop reading right there.
Generation P
Clearly this is proof that the staff are not shills for their advertisers as I look at the front page and see this review with a massive Earthrise banner ad behind it. Hopefully some whiners will take notice.
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Basically exactly my thoughts when reading the review, agreed with the overall score (which is arbitrary anyway), but had an overwhealming feeling they had played an equally dissapointing but completely different game to the one I had.
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If that review was preformed by a user, I'd probably just assume they were a troll and move on.
Breaking from the standard formula, Earthrise only offers one playable race, boring Humans, and spits in the face of those other science-fiction formats with their exotic and varied body-forms- get your cloak and hat other bipedal, extraterrestrial races: you are not welcome here.
I have to wonder what the reviewer expected. This isn't a fantasy title, it's an alternate-reality of Earth. The furthest Earthrise will likely go is introducing playable mutated humans, or some LOTRO-style monster play.
Earthrise offers nothing particularly new as the game will only ever call for a Tank, a Healer, a Support, and the ever-green DPS. Allowing players to pick and choose suitable abilities is only really giving the illusion of choice.
Eventually MMOers are going to have to realize that the holy circle of class types is all that can exist in a balanced game. Allowing mastery of certain stats means keeping other stats pitifully low to balance out, otherwise you just wind up with a population of T-1000 liquid-metal Terminators, who are not only capable of withstanding a rocket to the face, but can dish out mass genocide, heal at an alarmingly high rate, use any type of equipment they come across, and whose most formidable enemy is the easily defeated Arnold-bot.
Of course the tools of the classes in this MMO are distinctively futuristic: instead of traditional blades, hammers, and staves, we have rifles, flame throwers, and mounted gauntlets. This does add a degree of variation but the RPG genre has never comfortably or convincingly integrated modern weapons such as guns.
Futuristic in the sense that the game could be set anywhere from the early 1900's to sometime in the future. Also, guns never being integrated well into RPGs? This is a satirical review, isn't it. I think we've all been punk'd.
The fun and adventure in the game comes from the sense of an unexplored and remerging world – forcing two pre-existing sides into this segregates a budding player-driven community, and also drives away the notion that said community is building the society and ideologies of the place.
Xsyon is all about the community building up society, that doesn't dilute the aspect of tribes hating one another.
Overall, the review could have been consolidated to one page. The good points like the game lacking immersion, server stability, dearth of content, etc, could have been made in a concise manner, without all the filler that just creates the notion that the reviewer was actively seeking things to complain about.
I found this review to be most informative and well written. It perfectly describes the situation of the game and has put the final nail in the coffin of the question to look into this game or not. Very well done! Perhaps in 2 or 4 years time the game (if it still exists) will become polished to a level of interest but I will not hold my breath. I particularly like that the server lag issues was downplayed in this review as it is all i've really heard about this title in terms of cons. So i appreciate learning more about what makes this title poor and not worth a divergence of my pitiable cash resources. I guess i will just have to finish up my present EVE trial and then sub to it for the first time to get my sandbox fix
FFA full loot pvp alone was the nail in the coffin for abomination.
MMO shooter games are few. This game would have something to offer in that regard if they ever fixxed the lag. As it stands now, the review is pretty fair, with the exception of the full loot part, which is actually pretty retarded since you only get fully looted if you dont care enough about your gear in order to protect it with insurance.
Also, the skill system in this game is very complex and would have very much to offer the game would just run smoothly. Unfortunately the game doesnt run smoothly, even on the best machines.
This game is essentially still in an early Beta state. It should deffinitely not have been released as a finished product in such a poor state.
holly crap! not even MO got a 5 rating when it came out........really this bad?
Even a few months from now isn't going to change this train wreck of a game. If they pull an S-E and leave the game free 2 play until they do the game justice and make it worthy of paying for like FFIX then just maybe but even then, forced pvp full loot drop doomed the game before it launched. A dinky studio like MH more than likely can't afford exended free to play to fix the failures nor can they probably afford to limit the player base to a small percentage of pvpers.
Casual players make the MMO world progress and always have and always will. EVE has been around so many years that it's had time to improve and realize it needed drastic changes but still it's so very niche that it's still not going to reach the base it could have by being friendly to pure pve fans.
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"We don't like to review games until they have been out for a few months and the writer assigned has had time to run the game through its paces." - Admin of MMORPG.com
"Now I must state that I do not like to judge an MMORPG on its launch..." Adam Tingle in a seperate review
So this article was at the very latest written on the 21st of Feb because it gives mention to an exploit that was patched on the 22nd. This "review" was written half a month into release. Clearly something has changed in regards to this game although I am not sure why?
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Yes it is really that bad.
It is in a much better state than MO was at launch, the skill system is all there and they have already patched in a fix for desync.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
This review isn,t that good. How long did the reviewer played ER. Some other peeps tell us that the economics and crafting systeem isn,t good. How can they make such a statement when ER is only 2 weeks out. Did the same peeps also played EVE and SWG on release date(headstart). EVE needed also alot of time and expansions before it became a great game as it is now.
No this game isn,t the same copy crap WOW themepark MMO where you can play the same ranger, mage, priester classes over and over again. No its not Aion, WOW, L2 ,EQ2,Rift, Lord of the Rings, GW, etc etc. No its not a game full with peeps crying for nerf and buffs for the same old boring classes. In ER you make your own story. The crafting,skill and freedom is great. And also Masterhead are planning expansions great for guild warfare.
Yes the game is not optimal yet, but i truly believe this game will be fine after some time. This niche company isn,t Blizzard with all the money. And i,m happy that these niche companies exist.
The concept is great and i,m happy this isn,t some other Themapark MMO WOW clone
Thank you very much for the warning!