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Dragon Age 2- 25 hours, are you kidding me?

SwoogieSwoogie Member UncommonPosts: 399

Now, I wont spoil anything story wise, but only 25 hours and Im done? At the end of the game, I was thinking that I was still going to go on, and it could ave perfectly continued from there. I dont get it. Would Bioware really rather make an expansion of what should be the last half of DA2 ? I took me 74 hours to beat DA:O. Really 1/3 of the gameplay? Its really upsetting.

so in this perspective, I'm dissapoint. 

 

Overall I did enjoy the game(as you can tell since I want MOAR!)

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  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    This is where the DLC comes to cover that need. Personally I'll be wating for the "golden" edition, even if it means playing the game one year from now.

  • setonexsetonex Member Posts: 3

    They said that the game would take 40 hours, i think must be atleast 3-4 DLCs. I did the game in 23 hours and story rips in the end like shit, so NEED more DLCs!!!

  • ProsonProson Member UncommonPosts: 544

    Originally posted by Xasapis

    This is where the DLC comes to cover that need. Personally I'll be wating for the "golden" edition, even if it means playing the game one year from now.

     

    Same here, i just recently tryed DA:O when they released the Ultimate Edition with all DLC's and the expansion pack. i havent even played through all the dlcs and xpack yet so i got good time waiting for the Ultimate Edition for this one.

     

    But the launch day DLC is really fucking stupid imo, and makes me not wanna buy the game at all, i would expect this from Activision and Bobby Kotick, but not bioware =/

    Currently Playing Path of Exile

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Bioware is part of Activision now, like it or not.

  • setonexsetonex Member Posts: 3

    Bioware dont have so much money to make all DLCs in 1 day, so they making this kind of system and this dates making us closer to the DA3. I so hope that the my Grey warden and Hawk will play in 1 party and kick some Templars asses xDD

  • setonexsetonex Member Posts: 3

    Originally posted by Xasapis

    Bioware is part of Activision now, like it or not.

    Lol their part of EA, you cant see the logo in the start of the game??

  • ProsonProson Member UncommonPosts: 544

    Originally posted by Xasapis

    Bioware is part of Activision now, like it or not.

     

    Umm since when? i tought Bioware was part of EA now. EA is greedy too but far from as greedy as Activision, atleast the Battlefield games get free Map packs etc compared too CoD, and they dont throw out the same Battlefield game once a year. like Activision has been doing with CoD.

     


    Originally posted by setonex

    Bioware dont have so much money to make all DLCs in 1 day, so they making this kind of system and this dates making us closer to the DA3. I so hope that the my Grey warden and Hawk will play in 1 party and kick some Templars asses xDD

     

    Bioware dont make much money?!?! They have tons of money im sure, been making quality games for years now and selling millions of copies. They are just becoming greedy fucks now putting out DLC's the first day.. Its like Rift would release an expansion pack within the first week of launch. Just greedy, stupid and pointless.

    Sorry off-topic!

    Currently Playing Path of Exile

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Yea, mind fart there. Part of EA. The spirit of the post holds true though.

  • TeiloTeilo Member Posts: 284

    Originally posted by Proson

    Originally posted by Xasapis

    Bioware is part of Activision now, like it or not.

     

    Umm since when? i tought Bioware was part of EA now. EA is greedy too but far from as greedy as Activision, atleast the Battlefield games get free Map packs etc compared too CoD, and they dont throw out the same Battlefield game once a year. like Activision has been doing with CoD.

     


    Originally posted by setonex

    Bioware dont have so much money to make all DLCs in 1 day, so they making this kind of system and this dates making us closer to the DA3. I so hope that the my Grey warden and Hawk will play in 1 party and kick some Templars asses xDD

     

    Bioware dont make much money?!?! They have tons of money im sure, been making quality games for years now and selling millions of copies. They are just becoming greedy fucks now putting out DLC's the first day.. Its like Rift would release an expansion pack within the first week of launch. Just greedy, stupid and pointless.

    Sorry off-topic!

     

    It's not greedy and it's not pointless.

    First Day DLC is to try and get some money from second-hand sales - games shops have come up with this cunning wheeze whereby they can sell the same thing over and over without the developers and publishers seeing a bean.

    If you buy a second hand DA game, you miss some content unless you throw some cash at the people who actually deserve it - the people who spent all that time and effort making it - perfectly fair in my book.

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194

    Originally posted by Swoogie

    Now, I wont spoil anything story wise, but only 25 hours and Im done? At the end of the game, I was thinking that I was still going to go on, and it could ave perfectly continued from there. I dont get it. Would Bioware really rather make an expansion of what should be the last half of DA2 ? I took me 74 hours to beat DA:O. Really 1/3 of the gameplay? Its really upsetting.

    so in this perspective, I'm dissapoint. 

     

    Overall I did enjoy the game(as you can tell since I want MOAR!)

    What do you expect

    Bioware have been bought by EA which has the honor of killing all major indipendent game developers they buy.

    The decline of the mythic Bioware is already started.

    I owned every Bioware title since Baldurs Gate, but I haven't bought Dragon Age 2 mainly because I was disappointed by Dragon Age 1

    I am not going to buy an RPG with very little freedom of movement and an ultra linear story.

    RPG players like the exploration and discovering things in a mysterious world, Dragon Age is none of that

     

    I am waiting for The Elder Scroll V, hoping that Bethesda will make a game more similar to Morrowind rather than Oblivion which was half disappointment, I am bored with heavy scripted RPGs with a main story which makes for the whole game.

  • ZefireZefire Member Posts: 676

    Originally posted by ste2000

     

    What do you expect

    Bioware have been bought by EA which has the honor of killing all major indipendent game developers they buy.

    The decline of the mythic Bioware is already started.

    I owned every Bioware title since Baldurs Gate, but I haven't bought Dragon Age 2 mainly because I was disappointed by Dragon Age 1

    I am not going to buy an RPG with very little freedom of movement and an ultra linear story.

    RPG players like the exploration and discovering things in a mysterious world, Dragon Age is none of that

     

    I am waiting for The Elder Scroll V, hoping that Bethesda will make a game more similar to Morrowind rather than Oblivion which was half disappointment, I am bored with heavy scripted RPGs with a main story which makes for the whole game.

    I totally agree with you mate.

    Bioware screw everything.

    I can say that the only game worth playing from ea is bad company 2.

    The same goes for Blizzard they have ruined their games.

    My sight turns now on thq with the warhammer series and a hope for dark millenium to be as awesome as it has to be.

  • NewfrNewfr Member UncommonPosts: 133

    DA2 is the biggest disappointment of the last few years. DA:O is just better in everything: longer, better story (much better), more locations, more characters and party members, more spells, skills and traits. It took me just 18 hours to finish the game with a male mage character. Next DA will be like FPS right now just 5-7 hours to finish it? And while i played it i was all the time thinking like "Ok, we finish with deep roads (or any other part of this "great story") shit and get to the interesting things". But suddenly i saw titles! And was like wtf!? What was this game all about? Ok, they tell us a bit about Qunary, but this deep roads and idol thing what was that? Why they even show it to us? And all this mages vs templars bullshit? I saw it in DA:O, i saw it in Awaikining and now they telling me exactly the same old story in third time? No thanks, i'm tired of it. So, basically they didn't tell us anything new lore wise. And this new battles. It's ridiculous! Mage just spamming auto attack like 80% of time. That stupid. I never used auto attack in DA:O there were always some good spells to unleash on my foes. But now Elementalist has like 3 good spells (fireball just suck in DA2) and one of em is more like defensive (cone of cold because of small radius). Oh, and if you play on normal (and easy ofc) you don't even have to take part in fights - your party will do everything by themselves. And those characters? All the game i was like "Alister, why you are a woman named Aveline now?!". All characters are just a copy from someone from DA:O.



    Well, basically we got ME with swords and magic. And in this year must be released TES 5 and The Witcher 2. Something telling me that DA2 will be the worst big RPG of this year.

  • KhinRuniteKhinRunite Member Posts: 879

    So a purely singleplayer game gets released, people buy it, gets frustrated of the length/content, and the developers will pacify it by scheduling a string of DLCs..which we have to pay for again? Can't get enough money from consumers eh?

    This is heading towards the MMO style of releasing games: release the game for the sake of box sales and subs but worry about the content later by using "patches".

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  • WolfenprideWolfenpride Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,988

    Really glad I haven't wasted money on this game. =s

  • dreamsfadedreamsfade Member UncommonPosts: 339

    Originally posted by Swoogie

    Now, I wont spoil anything story wise, but only 25 hours and Im done? At the end of the game, I was thinking that I was still going to go on, and it could ave perfectly continued from there. I dont get it. Would Bioware really rather make an expansion of what should be the last half of DA2 ? I took me 74 hours to beat DA:O. Really 1/3 of the gameplay? Its really upsetting.

    so in this perspective, I'm dissapoint. 

     

    Overall I did enjoy the game(as you can tell since I want MOAR!)

    that is dissapointing to hear. are you considering all the side missions as well? or did u just burn straight through the main plots?

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  • pl3dgepl3dge Member UncommonPosts: 183

    I'm 30 hours in and still havn't finished.

    Done every single Companion, Side Quest and Secondary Quest possible. Pretty sure I am very close to the end though :)

    - apart from 2 which are known to be bugged

    Still DA Origins took me around 40 hours so it's not far off.

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  • Jimmy562Jimmy562 Member UncommonPosts: 1,158

    I'm currently at 40 hours and just started Act 3.

  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385

    So the OP rushed through the story line or had some advantage that made combat easier than intended.  Everyone plays at a different pace.

     

    I chose not to buy DA2 after playing DA1.  The lack of multiplayer was the biggest reason.

  • LerxstLerxst Member UncommonPosts: 648

    The evils of DLC finally show through.  This reason alone is why I will never, ever, ever, ever buy a game based on the promises of DLC.  I mean, WTF did devlopers do prior to this little half-assed gem they created?  Actaully develop a full, complete game?  My god!

  • JalfordJalford Member Posts: 17

    I guess I could of beat the game in 25 hours, if i ran through it, skipping every cutscene, and skipping most of the side quests.  But at 42 hours right now.  I still have 1 more ide quest, and then im starting the final quest.

    But everytime u start a new act, multiple freeform quests would open up, so i went back to every playfield and did them, i spent the time to do every side quest, evey companion quest, ect.

    I dont care what RPG you play, if all you do is focus on the main story, it wont be as long as it needs to be.

    You can beat ME2 in 20 hours or 35 hours, its all up to you.

    Same thing with DA 2, 25 hours or 40+, your choice.

    I played both games.  I played DA:O on PC, and personally after about half of the first one i found myself dragging on, having to force myself to complete it because I hated the combat so much.  Rather than become more difficult, they just through more and more enemies at you to compensate, and each and every battle became a battle of attrition.  I do think the story was better, and the fact that the world was so much bigger was a plus to me.

    DA2 im playing on PS3, and though i wish the world was bigger(just cause it revolves around kirkwall, doesnt mean you cant have more playfields), and hate that they reverted to the ME1 style of recyling dungeons, I much prefer it to the first one, and have no doubt that im will play a second and possibly a third playthorugh just like I did with ME and ME2. Tthe combat is so much more enjoyable(little to easy on the normal fights, but the bosses are no joke, and cranking up the difficulty presents a huge challange), class customization is much better due to less restriction on how I build my character, fully voiced character is awesome, ect. I hate when any RPG features get stripped, but they stripped a LOT less here than they did in ME2.

      And just like in ME2, the people who are complaining about difficulty and lack of tactics need to crank up the difficulty,  thats how bioware is designing their games so that more people can enjoy.  ME2 was a diffirent game on insanity, DA2 is no different.

  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607

    20-25 hours of gameplay compares to Fallout 3's 20 hours of MAIN STORY gameplay.  Thing is though, F3 also had about 10-15 hours of other content... BEFORE the DLC's.

    I don't feel ripped off... enough has been different through my reroll that it keeps me interested.  But yeah, that's a little low for an SPRPG.

    Far as the ending goes, yeah... I was really expecting that the big epic climactic showdown was coming AFTER the point in which the story is told; that we'd see and be a part of a huge epic rescue scene, then on to the grand finale.

    However, I wouldn't say it was an incomplete game.  It just seems like if you expect the sequel to be bigger and more epic than the original(like most game sequels tend to be), you'll probably be disappointed.  And yeah, the immediate DLC, particularly in a game with lower "hourage", it's particularly troubling.

  • RagnavenRagnaven Member Posts: 483

    No, you can burn through the game doing every side quest and  watching every scene if you never die in under thirty hours. The game appears longer if you play it on hard of nightmare because the life bars of your enemies is made insanely huge turning them into something like raid boss fights in mmo's. Simply put on normal you will be done with this game well before the advertised 40 + hours.

  • JalfordJalford Member Posts: 17

    Originally posted by Ragnaven

    No, you can burn through the game doing every side quest and  watching every scene if you never die in under thirty hours. The game appears longer if you play it on hard of nightmare because the life bars of your enemies is made insanely huge turning them into something like raid boss fights in mmo's. Simply put on normal you will be done with this game well before the advertised 40 + hours.

    Dying doesnt increase game time, you reload after a death, and my first 40+ playthrough was on normal, and i never had a party wipe.  I made a second character and cranked it up to hard(which is damn hard), and i expect even skipping cutscenes it will take a while.

    So again, you would have to rush to beat it that quick.  If you spend time organizing your gear, tactics, and exploring(not truly exploring, more like revisting after each act), you will easily hit the 40 hour mark.

  • EricDanieEricDanie Member UncommonPosts: 2,238

    I have no issue with games that take 20+ hours for my first playthrough, my pace is incredibly slow but usually most of my fun comes from exploring the environment and doing side quests/minigames instead of watching the main story evolve (which is the reason it makes me go so slow, but most of the time I feel no need to go through a second or third time).

    Less than that will require extra modes or stuff like that, I'd like at least 25 hours of fun for my $50. For $60 I'd probably want 32 or something, and for $10 I'm happy enough money-wise with 4 hours spent, though these $10 indie games rarely are that short. Sure, I can forgive shorter games, but this is all so subjective it's not worth talking about as measuring fun is pretty much an opinion.

    P.S.: Yay me, 2000th post.

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