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---Not sure if this post belongs in the general or Rift forum, so if its in the wrong spot feel free to move it----
I am currently still playing Rift. But since I hit lv 50 on my warrior I feel like I slammed into an invisible brick wall, and behind it was a very delicious candy called pleasure and fun. I don't know wether Im suffering from MMORPG burn out right now or what but I've got such little drive to try any new or old games. It might be the hype surrounding Tera, Archage, SW:TOR, and GW2 thats just turning me off to getting into a new MMORPG.
Rift is a geat themepark game. Perhaps the best currently. But if returning to WoW Cataclysm after a 3 year break from it, and playing Rift til 50, has taught me anything, its that I really.... really.... just love sandbox games.
Darkfall, UO, SWG, this is my sub-genre of mmorpg. As of right now I am yearning so badly for a new and up to date one.
I've beaten UO into a bloody pulp, via free shards and OSI shards, theres nothing left.
Darkfall is a good game, but I maxed my character out and did everything there was to do, this is kind of the case with many other games. I powergame on one main character and then when theres no more room to grow or no alt creation appeal I switch to a new game.
SWG is well... ya you all know what happened to it.
Anyways, I'm scheduled to unsubscribe to Rift once my free month runs out. There is just nothing I'm looking forward to in the late-game for me. Its like doing the end game process for WoW has just given me a full image of what will occur in Rift that it turns me off completely.
Rift is going to put out an expansion in 1-2 years and everything youve achieved (except achievements lol) is going to be trivialized from an increase in level cap and trumping of old items by new greens.
I dont understand why these themepark games are making their old raid content obsolete by trivializing all the gear and stepping stones in them.
Im not entirely sure how EQ2's raiding and progress work but what I remember from EQ1 was that all of their previous expansion raids and content are required as stepping stones to get to the next expansion's content. Why don't all themepark games do that? I kind of understand gimping veterans purple gear, because it attracts new players into the game, by giving them a level playing field, but why trivialize end game content? Its just stupid and makes the game feel smaller.
Part of the reason I love sandbox games so much.... you dont have to worry about all this garbage like dungeons becoming trivialized etc.
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Really? My dragon, nightmare, wyrm army trivialized everything in UO ;p
Well, aside from those speed hacking pks that nearly dropped me and my army after 30 minutes...
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I always feel these comments are a bit off. If someone's not playing because they enjoy the game, they shouldn't be playing it to begin with. And everyone who doesn't fall under the preceding statement shouldn't care whether or not their items are trumped by greens, because they enjoy playing the game.
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I hate how you have the ability to see into the future and know exactly what Trion is going to do with Rift...
I left Darkfall because of the insane grind there for Rift. I do not regret. Not even a bit. I find rift awesome. I could care less how long I am going to stay in rift, or whatsoever game that I play. If a game keeps me playing for a month I am satisfied. A game cost me like 60€. A night on a nightclub cost me 200€. At least.
Make us care MORE about our faction & world pvp!
Well, aside from those speed hacking pks that nearly dropped me and my army after 30 minutes...
QFT
After hitting Gm (and then later beyond) Taming I could pretty much just park my butt in a spawn and make continual bank runs until I got bored. It was basically free gold...
Used to be this one guy Named Egyptian Magician on Lake Superior that constantly camped the Gazer room with 5 White Wyrums :P - they soon added in the control mechanism so you couldnt take out 5 wyrms/dragons at one time any longer...
One doesn't have to be a "seer" to predict the future of Rift, just a decent oddsmaker. They're following a very standard pattern and expecting it to turn out any different would be, well just crazy I suppose.
I've been taking my time in Rift, (level 41 right now) because once I get to 50, I won't have anything to do I think. I hate raiding instances (I hear my guildmates talking about Expert dungeons, Token grinding, Tier 1/T2 gear sets and it wilts my soul. I won't be doing it, so I'm not quite sure what I'll find fun. (Perhaps the PVP, but I'm not much for scenario based combat, and I'm Defiant and on my server we're pretty deficent in PVP)
That's OK though, Rift was a placeholder game for me, and I've been playing with the attitude of finding the fun it has, and not focusing on what it lacks. So far I've enjoyed the challenge of getting my Runecrafting up to 300 (by level 40, its a challenge, trust me) farming enough plat for my level 40 mount (failed at that, level 41 and still riding the Turtle) but I just got 43 plat together last night (spent all my cash crafting before this) so perhaps I've met another goal.
Last evening I started a journey to Stillmoor in order to turn in a Master level daily quest for Runecrafting. Is proving to be quite an adventure, not sure if I'll be able to make it all the way at level 41, perhaps I'll have to "die" my way across the zone.
I do like Rifting as well, so by mixing everything up and taking my time, I should get a few months out of it which is fine for now.
To the OP, you missed out on a good sandbox game (IMO) which is EVE and if you have some time to kill give it a free trial (or 3, sometimes its an acquired taste)
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I'm enjoying the ride and taking my good old time, only level 27, but enjoying each moment in the game. Since I can only play an hour each night, as I work all day, this suits me just fine. At my pace, new content will contiure to come out as will additional levels and zones, I forsee. What's the rush?
I guess that's why I don't fall under the spell of the gear grind. I won't play the game in a way that I don't want to in order to get the shiniest of the shiny. And raid-grinding is definitely playing the game the way I don't want to play it.
I guess that's why I like LotRO. The raid gear may be the best, but you can craft gear that's more than good enough.
If I end up with 1 or 2 of the best raid pieces by the time the next expansion comes out, I don't really care much that my first quest green is better.
For me, the best games are the ones that convince me to slow down and take a look around. And I think that may be true for everyone.
For you, OP, it seems obvious that you haven't found that game. It sounds like your main, and possibly only goal is to max out your character. Then once you've acheived that goal, the game has nothing left for you.
Until you find a game that lures you away from that goal, or your priorities change on their own, I suspect you'll always have this problem.
Yeah I got bored of that game too, though it is one of the best made MMOs, with the best launch I have ever seen.
I never made it too max level though, I got bored around level 15, I just got tired of grinding on rifts and quests and PvP to level and the combat was meh. Tried playing the Guardians side but those guys are just jerks and boring with their boyscout churchlady demeanor.
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I did play all Rift betas and once it went live i felt like theres nothing else for me to see.
It just didnt make me log back in eaven though i preordered and my sub is running.
I just dont see anything but grind in that game.
I don't know if im getting over mmorpgs in general. I expect something entirely different from each new mmorpg but somehow they all feel the same.
You guys have fun if you enjoy the game.
Don't blame rift. Blame the stupid idea of endgame as a one dimensional version of a 2 dimensional game.
All endgame is, is a neutered version of the original game. Its pathetic. Question like "Can a justicar actually tank the harder dungones?" all come down to itemization and very little else.
You hit 50 the game becomes more shallow. After going through the process multiple times you realize it intuitively and therefore feel bored.
The only answer is don't play endgame. Either quit the game or level up a new calling. I personally have no plans on grinding through tier 1 to tier 2 to teir to tier N to tier N+1. Its a piece of crap robotoic, formulaic construct.
Think about it. Grinding through t1 etc basically undermines the entire soul system. Suddenly your gear and random drops lock you into specific soul callings. People are already keeping a secondary RS tanking spec simply becaue they got Rogue tanking gear drops by random chance even though they had no intention of ever keeping a tank spec since they don't really want to tank.
Its just awful. No longer do you make your decisions and play the way you want. No, you started to grind and now your playstyle is at the mercy of a computer and its crappy random number generator.
That's still a gear grind. It's just a gear grind with a balanced crafting system. TBH WOW's crafting system is pretty close (varies by expansion, but certainly during late BC my elemental shaman wore multiple pieces of self-crafted through a lot of raiding.)
Unless you're saying the crafted gear was substantially easier to get than raiding, in which case it's a brokenly imbalanced crafting system.
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