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QuadnadsQuadnads Member Posts: 29

I had played Champions online from release for about a month or two, got bored and cancelled my account. Then when the game went free to play I gave it another bash and was enjoying it, got a character of 'The Mind' class to level 18, then took a 2 week break from the game. To my surprise, when I logged back in the character was gone and so I sauntered over to their support section on the website and left a ticket: 

'Dear Sir/Madam, 



I logged back into my account after a few weeks of down time and my character has disappeared. 



I had a level 18 'The Mind' class character and I was really enjoying the game. Can you please look into where this character has gone please?



Thanks'

 

Reply arrived within seconds:

 

CUSTOMER SERVICE RESPONSES:


'Greetings, Thank you for your patience while we processed your restoration request. While it is our hope to be able to restore a deleted character to its previous state it is not always possible. Below are the results of our attempts. We were unable to restore the following character: The Mind Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter, Atari Support'


 


 


 


So basically, not only did they not investigate the issue of why my character and hard hours of grind had spontaneously disappeared in a puff of smoke, they didn't even look at the request (as indicated by the clumsy insertion of the character class 'The Mind' in place of the name). Oh and best of all, they also don't allow you to use their forums to query the problem unless you're a monthly customer either.  


 


So, in conclusion, don't waste your time with these people. Admittedly it's cryptic so I should have known but hey ho, we live and learn.  

Comments

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

    Unless your character was named "The Mind" then they couldn't restore it because that is the avatar name they tried to get back. Your copy and paste of issue doesn't state the avatar's name. You didn't give them the correct name of your avatar.

    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • QuadnadsQuadnads Member Posts: 29

    I did, I just deleted it from the ticket I posted above. 

  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607

    Hmmm... that IS interesting.  I'll have to log in and see if my character is still there.  I played for a bit on F2P, too.

  • CaskioCaskio Member UncommonPosts: 339

    All this drama for a lvl 18 character?

    Do you have lots of alts?  It could be on the second page if you do.

    In any case 18 isn't high and not hard to reach again.

    "If you're going to act like a noob, I'll treat you like one." -Caskio

    Adventurers wear fancy pants!!!

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

    Originally posted by Quadnads

    I did, I just deleted it from the ticket I posted above. 

    Their reply still states they tried to recover an avatar named "The Mind".

    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • QuadnadsQuadnads Member Posts: 29

    Drama? I don't see any drama. Can you show me where this drama is that you're talking about? I posted it for the benefit of other people who may have the same problem or other problems with cryptics way of doing business. Plus why should it matter if I have 1 or 10 characters at level 18 or cap? It took me about a week of playing on an off to get to where I was. Now, maybe I'm being overly precious about my time but that's a pain in the arse having to do that all again for no good reason. And what happens if I do get to end game and take a week or two off? Does the character disappear again after a much longer investment of time? MMO characters shouldn't just be deleted for no reason free-to-play or no free-to-play. It damages trust in the game. This, coupled with cryptics general attitude to 'handling the problem' (and yes I reposted the same ticket with the name more obviously plastered across it and I got the same response again within seconds) is poor. Noteworthy, no?

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

    I believe you are getting the customer service you are paying for. Only those who have chosen to be currently paying for their services are provided customer support that requires a person on their end to do something. Those who don't pay anything only have access to their knowledgebase.

    Is that level 18 avatar valuable enough to you to induce you to pay for their services?

    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • QuadnadsQuadnads Member Posts: 29

    Hehe sounds like an old mafia routine -

    'Oh your shop windows were broken? Hmm that's really terrible. Tell you what, if you pay us a monthly fee we'll protect your property and make sure it won't happen again, *wink wink nudge nudge*'.

    In other words, it's 'free' but they can't guarantee your characters won't be deleted - or give them back to you if they are - unless you pay them a monthy fee? 

    Nah I'll pass. Just wanted to let people know about it in case it's not an isolated occurance. Thanks for the input.  

  • YamotaYamota Member UncommonPosts: 6,593

    Originally posted by grunty

    I believe you are getting the customer service you are paying for. Only those who have chosen to be currently paying for their services are provided customer support that requires a person on their end to do something. Those who don't pay anything only have access to their knowledgebase.

    Is that level 18 avatar valuable enough to you to induce you to pay for their services?

    So, according to your logic, if you play a F2P title and dont pay (since it is Free to Play right) they can just arbitrarily delete your characters for no reason and they are not obliged to investigate why they have been deleted.

    Great business model, for sure you will attract alot of customers like that. image

    The whole point of the F2P titles is to entice people to try the game, since they are 'free', and then if they like the experience they would pay to gain some extra services.

    Deleting your characters is hardly a way to entice people to pay for a game. Rather it would make them quit and warn others about it.

  • MysticumMysticum Member UncommonPosts: 53

    Champions Online sucks, and people should stay away? You're joking! Next you'll tell us that VHS tapes will some day be replaced by some sort of plastic disc! Ludicrous.

  • mrw0lfmrw0lf Member Posts: 2,269

    I think it's pretty obvious that they have tried to restore the wrong character, try again, this time only stating the character name and that you would like it restored.

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  • QuadnadsQuadnads Member Posts: 29

    See above. I did send another ticket with the name of the lost character and it was responded to immediately with the same response. The more important question is: why was a character removed in the first place after an absence of only two weeks?

  • MokweeMokwee Member Posts: 286

    Originally posted by Quadnads 


     


    So, in conclusion, don't waste your time with these people. Admittedly it's cryptic so I should have known but hey ho, we live and learn.  



    Of course you should of known!!!! ITS CRYPTIC OMG! I hope you learn the lesson and dont be tempted by their next crap they try and sell people!

  • tifalockharttifalockhart Member UncommonPosts: 72

    been playing champions online since beta on and off and have been both a paying and F2P customer, i have several characters well above level 18 and at no time during this have i lost a character or had any problems. (just to note i was a paying customer and then switched to the F2P model and converted 2 of my characters without a problem.)

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  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607

    Just checked... my 19th level character was still there.  Showed as being last used 55 days ago.  I recall them saying that they do wipe trial characters that haven't been used in a long time in order to make more names available...

  • erictlewiserictlewis Member UncommonPosts: 3,022

    I wonder if the OP's account was hacked, I just checked and my toon that was logged in last 40 days ago is still there.

    I'm just wondering if he was hacked,  been seeing this in other games, toon stripped of everything and deleted seems to be the mo of hackers this past month or so, had a good friend in eq2 who been gone for months log in and found all his toons deleted due to  a hacker, took them  a week to fix that mess.

    Still you would think they would be able to restore a toon, so I'm not sure what to say other than they don't have the best customer support.

     

  • QuadnadsQuadnads Member Posts: 29

    Hmm I did think of the possibility of it being hacked. It's a possible explanation. Didn't have any stuff worth selling though. 

     

     

  • CaskioCaskio Member UncommonPosts: 339

    Originally posted by Robsolf

    Just checked... my 19th level character was still there.  Showed as being last used 55 days ago.  I recall them saying that they do wipe trial characters that haven't been used in a long time in order to make more names available...

    Character names are not unique in CO, only the display name of the account.  You can have more than 1 character between accounts with the same name.

    So deleteing characters to free names is pointless when it doesn't work that way.

    "If you're going to act like a noob, I'll treat you like one." -Caskio

    Adventurers wear fancy pants!!!

  • gandalesgandales Member UncommonPosts: 472

    Edited for unnecessary harsh comment. Sorry you got your char lost, I hope they might restored or you might want to reroll into something new.

     

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

    Originally posted by Yamota

    Originally posted by grunty

    I believe you are getting the customer service you are paying for. Only those who have chosen to be currently paying for their services are provided customer support that requires a person on their end to do something. Those who don't pay anything only have access to their knowledgebase.

    Is that level 18 avatar valuable enough to you to induce you to pay for their services?

    So, according to your logic, if you play a F2P title and dont pay (since it is Free to Play right) they can just arbitrarily delete your characters for no reason and they are not obliged to investigate why they have been deleted.

    Great business model, for sure you will attract alot of customers like that. image

    The whole point of the F2P titles is to entice people to try the game, since they are 'free', and then if they like the experience they would pay to gain some extra services.

    Deleting your characters is hardly a way to entice people to pay for a game. Rather it would make them quit and warn others about it.

    Almost all online game makers reserve the right to completely remove your account through their enforcement of their EULA. You don't own anything in the account. So yes, they can delete an avatar or all avatars at their discretion. Even in games you pay a subscription to.

    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092

    My level 5 KittyIceKat was still there nd I haven't played her for 44 days already...

    I think something went terrebly wrong with OP's character :(

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