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Darkfall is still the Best mmo

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  • MajinashMajinash Member Posts: 1,320

    Originally posted by Snoepie

    there is  no point with debatting which is best. because darkfall is one of a kind..

     

    Line age 2 is point and click so  keep dreaming my friend and hopefully you will have fun in your point and click game.

    Planetside isn't point and click... yet you seem to exclude it (you exclude, you don't try to claim darkfall is better, which would seem to indicate that Planetside is so much better that you can't deny it, even with your insane disregard for logic) from the catagory of MMO, despite the fact that it fits every single criteria.

     

    And Darkfall is NOT one of a kind.  It's a lot like Dikatana.

    Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431

    Im really staring to think Darkfall players, or at least the ones that post here are just using Darkfall as a medium to say theyre better than everyone else. Theyre more hardcore, theyre tougher, theyre not WoW wussies, etc etc.

    We get it, you have your own little clubhouse where you sit around patting each other on the back, breaching up each others egos all the while calling out everyone else who doesnt like Darkfall.

    In your opinion Darkfall might be the best game out there for you, however most people dont care for it, and its not those peoples fault they dont, its the game itself.

    So no matter how much better you guys feel you are than the rest of us, and congratulate yourselves for it, Darkfall isn't impressing anyone but the other people in your club.

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004

    Originally posted by Arcken

    Im really staring to think Darkfall players, or at least the ones that post here are just using Darkfall as a medium to say theyre better than everyone else. Theyre more hardcore, theyre tougher, theyre not WoW wussies, etc etc.

    We get it, you have your own little clubhouse where you sit around patting each other on the back, breaching up each others egos all the while calling out everyone else who doesnt like Darkfall.

    In your opinion Darkfall might be the best game out there for you, however most people dont care for it, and its not those peoples fault they dont, its the game itself.

    So no matter how much better you guys feel you are than the rest of us, and congratulate yourselves for it, Darkfall isn't impressing anyone but the other people in your club.

    but its a small clubhouse.. and the chairs are made of plastic image

  • 9ineven9ineven Member UncommonPosts: 168

    Originally posted by oscarkool2

     Darkfall is still the Best mmo

    ...

     

    Luckily, this is just an opinion and that post demonstrates very well that an opinion is purely personal.

  • SnoepieSnoepie Member UncommonPosts: 485

    Originally posted by Majinash

    Originally posted by Snoepie

    there is  no point with debatting which is best. because darkfall is one of a kind..

     

    Line age 2 is point and click so  keep dreaming my friend and hopefully you will have fun in your point and click game.

    Planetside isn't point and click... yet you seem to exclude it (you exclude, you don't try to claim darkfall is better, which would seem to indicate that Planetside is so much better that you can't deny it, even with your insane disregard for logic) from the catagory of MMO, despite the fact that it fits every single criteria.

     

    And Darkfall is NOT one of a kind.  It's a lot like Dikatana.

    There is no point in debatting with you.. 

     

    planetside is nice game FOR A SHOOTER you can not compare it to darkfall

     

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431

    Originally posted by 9ineven

    Originally posted by oscarkool2

     Darkfall is still the Best mmo

    ...

     

    Luckily, this is just an opinion and that post demonstrates very well that an opinion is purely personal.

     Absolutely, Ive been playing mmo's since 99, and I have yet to actually think to myself "This is the best mmo"

    Practically speaking ive had issues with every mmo ive played in one way or another, and Im man enough to admit the faults and not take personal offense when someone disagrees with me.

  • MajinashMajinash Member Posts: 1,320

    Originally posted by Snoepie

     

     you can not compare it to darkfall

     

    Why?  Is there some EULA for these forums that forbids comparing Planetside and Darkfall?  Why do YOU get to decide which games get to be nominated for "Best MMO ever"?  Let me try to do what you do.

     

    Earth & Beyond is (was) the best MMO ever.  Fact.

    Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431

    Originally posted by 9ineven

    Originally posted by oscarkool2

     Darkfall is still the Best mmo

    ...

     

    Luckily, this is just an opinion and that post demonstrates very well that an opinion is purely personal.

     Exactly, I have played a lot of MMOs since 1999, and I have yet to say that about any one of them. Quite frankly Ive found issues in every MMO Ive tried, however Im man enough to admit their faults and not take personal offense when someone disagrees with me.

  • Sid_ViciousSid_Vicious Member RarePosts: 2,177

    I would have to agree that Darkfall is still the best MMO which is funny because I used to hate the game.

     

    - Best mob AI and funnest combat interaction with the most options that race through my head during the fastest gameplay in the MMORPG market. The mob are so sophisticated that often I wonder if GMs are controlling them because they do sometimes.

     

    - Exploration that never ends. Content keeps coming out before I come anywhere close to seeing everything out there (I do not play all day every day obviously . .. probably more like 2-5 hours every 2 days).

     

    - Most engaging combat in the market. No other game has brought me to the edge of my seat as often. It is the most difficult that I have found in the market, especially as a casual player. I like to be challenged.

     

    - Biggest adrenaline rush by far when most games do not provide any at all. This is because of the fastest-paced combat combined with risk vs reward. No other game can provide a bigger adrenaline rush because there is nothing to lose when you die in most games or the combat is not as fast.

     

    - Provides the most emotions overall. One character per account. You become known for your actions. The emotional highs and lows are extreme. The reason that you do not feel this in other MMOs is because when your character suffers in most games you do not feel it and probably do not care much.

     

    - Most useful crafting. Even though I hated the crafting at first because of how difficult it is to make money in the market as a crafter I find myself more thankful that I started crafting in this game more than I have in any other.

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  • oscarkool2oscarkool2 Member Posts: 127

    Bahhahaha this thread is great.  I'm glad I made it.  It really brings out all the haters.  I love how everyone here dissing the game either hasn't played it at all or played it two years ago for an hour.

    So I should just play Rift for an hour and then go on the forums and say how bad the game is, right?  Because it is a really fucking terrible game.

    Let's speak FACTS now shall we?  If you're looking for a challenging game, then Darkfall is the best you can get in the mmorpg genre.

    If you're looking for a game of economics, then go play EVE.  It is a completely different game and actually most EVE players like Darkfall.  Go figure.

    If you like to click and press 1, 2, 3, 4, then go play wow or warhammer or rift or gods & heroes or whatever else tab clicking mmorpgs are out there.  They are completely different games as well.

    But when it comes down to an actual game that requires REAL SKILL, strategy, reaction, listening, aiming, etc. etc. Darkfall is clearly the best mmorpg on the market.  No game comes close at the moment.

    These are the FACTS and no one has yet to make any good arguments.  Just a bunch of haters talking shit about a game they have never played.

    You don't see me dissing your game so don't come over here and spread your bull.  I'm just speaking the FACTS and I'm sorry you can't accept them.

  • AnnwynAnnwyn Member UncommonPosts: 2,854

    Originally posted by oscarkool2

    Bahhahaha this thread is great.  I'm glad I made it.  It really brings out all the haters.  I love how everyone here dissing the game either hasn't played it at all or played it two years ago for an hour.

    So I should just play Rift for an hour and then go on the forums and say how bad the game is, right?  Because it is a really fucking terrible game.

    Let's speak FACTS now shall we?  If you're looking for a challenging game, then Darkfall is the best you can get in the mmorpg genre.

    If you're looking for a game of economics, then go play EVE.  It is a completely different game and actually most EVE players like Darkfall.  Go figure.

    If you like to click and press 1, 2, 3, 4, then go play wow or warhammer or rift or gods & heroes or whatever else tab clicking mmorpgs are out there.  They are completely different games as well.

    But when it comes down to an actual game that requires REAL SKILL, strategy, reaction, listening, aiming, etc. etc. Darkfall is clearly the best mmorpg on the market.  No game comes close at the moment.

    These are the FACTS and no one has yet to make any good arguments.  Just a bunch of haters talking shit about a game they have never played.

    You don't see me dissing your game so don't come over here and spread your bull.  I'm just speaking the FACTS and I'm sorry you can't accept them.

    No fact has been mentionned in any of your post in this thread. Why? Because the definition of the "best MMO" is purely subjective, an opinion, which is worth as much as someone claiming that WoW is the best MMO. Neither are wrong, but both omit to add the rest of the setence "in my opinion".

    But I'll bite. As I've mentionned several time, I've played for almost 2 years (played from EU Launch to late Sept.2010) have a maxed character and 2 alts account (one of which was mainly used to farm, while the other was for me to start over from scratch after the new player patch was added).  If anything, DarkFall is far from a challenging game. It's a game about numbers, which means it's just as challenging as your typical tab-targetting MMORPG.  I LOVE challenges, but the fact that I'm able to win 1vs10 battles without trying is NOT what I call a challenge. The game requires little player skill. Hell, there are many encounters where I should've died, I litteraly played like a feet while my opponent would completly outplay me, but because of my superior numbers I can still win, and that makes me just as angry as the guy I just killed. I want to die, not because of numbers, but because someone was clearly stronger than me, and DarkFall does not offer such opportunity, which is why DarkFall is far from requiring real player-skill.

    Strategy is also not important. Players can jump into battles and get out easily through Bunnyhopping. Players don't really think through either, they just zerg charge or run. There is, compared to Launch, very little strategy and tactics involved, mainly caused by the various carebear mechanics that AV has failed to remove (Even in WoW you can die from Fall Damage, why can't you in DarkFall?).

    On the subject of economics, as a sandbox MMORPG, an economy is VERY IMPORTANT. Otherwise your MMORPG is no better than an Arena/Quake with Grind. Economy generates player interaction, generates a wider array of activities for players to partake in, it makes the gold circulate around the community, etc. Don't forget that we're talking about an MMORPG. If you forget about the RPG part, than DarkFall is no better than Call Of Duty, except without achievements.

    Best PvP in an MMORPG? Planetside wins hands down. Why? Because I said so and it's an opinion. My opinion is worth just as much as yours, which is to say that there's no point in debating which is better because there is no real answer.

    But no matter, chances are you'll read this post with your eyes closed, denying all arguments and then turn around and say that no one has provided any good argument and that we're all a bunch of haters talking shit, or so you say. There's a quote by Tim Minchin which I really like: "Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved."  Definitively applies here.

  • Sid_ViciousSid_Vicious Member RarePosts: 2,177

    Originally posted by MadnessRealm

    If you forget about the RPG part, than DarkFall is no better than Call Of Duty, except without achievements.

    Call of Duty is an awesome game that I play often however it can never give me an adrenaline rush. I like the Black Ops more than the other ones because it is faster-paced and I can break a sweat but still no adrenaline rush because when I die I simply spawn again . ...

     

    I think I registered to these forums because the same people kept trash talking this awesome game that I have been having fun with along with my friends but nobody cares about the forums.

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  • patrikd23patrikd23 Member UncommonPosts: 1,155

    Originally posted by oscarkool2

    Bahhahaha this thread is great.  I'm glad I made it.  It really brings out all the haters.  I love how everyone here dissing the game either hasn't played it at all or played it two years ago for an hour.

    So I should just play Rift for an hour and then go on the forums and say how bad the game is, right?  Because it is a really fucking terrible game.

    Let's speak FACTS now shall we?  If you're looking for a challenging game, then Darkfall is the best you can get in the mmorpg genre.

    If you're looking for a game of economics, then go play EVE.  It is a completely different game and actually most EVE players like Darkfall.  Go figure.

    If you like to click and press 1, 2, 3, 4, then go play wow or warhammer or rift or gods & heroes or whatever else tab clicking mmorpgs are out there.  They are completely different games as well.

    But when it comes down to an actual game that requires REAL SKILL, strategy, reaction, listening, aiming, etc. etc. Darkfall is clearly the best mmorpg on the market.  No game comes close at the moment.

    These are the FACTS and no one has yet to make any good arguments.  Just a bunch of haters talking shit about a game they have never played.

    You don't see me dissing your game so don't come over here and spread your bull.  I'm just speaking the FACTS and I'm sorry you can't accept them.

    If it would be the best MMO out there would be more people playing it than the grievers that are in it now. Those are FACTS.

    Come back ones it hits 5 million then say its the best mmo.

  • SnoepieSnoepie Member UncommonPosts: 485

    Originally posted by patrikd23

    Originally posted by oscarkool2

    Bahhahaha this thread is great.  I'm glad I made it.  It really brings out all the haters.  I love how everyone here dissing the game either hasn't played it at all or played it two years ago for an hour.

    So I should just play Rift for an hour and then go on the forums and say how bad the game is, right?  Because it is a really fucking terrible game.

    Let's speak FACTS now shall we?  If you're looking for a challenging game, then Darkfall is the best you can get in the mmorpg genre.

    If you're looking for a game of economics, then go play EVE.  It is a completely different game and actually most EVE players like Darkfall.  Go figure.

    If you like to click and press 1, 2, 3, 4, then go play wow or warhammer or rift or gods & heroes or whatever else tab clicking mmorpgs are out there.  They are completely different games as well.

    But when it comes down to an actual game that requires REAL SKILL, strategy, reaction, listening, aiming, etc. etc. Darkfall is clearly the best mmorpg on the market.  No game comes close at the moment.

    These are the FACTS and no one has yet to make any good arguments.  Just a bunch of haters talking shit about a game they have never played.

    You don't see me dissing your game so don't come over here and spread your bull.  I'm just speaking the FACTS and I'm sorry you can't accept them.

    If it would be the best MMO out there would be more people playing it than the grievers that are in it now. Those are FACTS.

    Come back ones it hits 5 million then say its the best mmo.

    rolf

     

    you have no idea really..

     

    Av  is making mistakes by not adressing the masses by not setting up walk to point A to do quest B

     

    You need to learn your own way in darkfall and that don't apply to masses.. simple is that..

     

    Most people who try it quit in 2/3 days because they don't know what to do

     

    This thread is indeed good but the players who are dissing this game don't understand anything about darkfall as same as above poster said.

    You either tried the game 2 years ago for 3/4 hours or are just a forum spammer and dissing games..

     

    for all the people who wanne try something new instead of point(tab) click and like player skilled pvp this is really your game

    send me a pm on mmorpg and i will help you out in darkfall

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    The whole "Best MMO" thing is kinda pointless, it is either based on personal opinion that differs or on stuff like subscription numbers.

    Saying that DFO (or any other game) is the best because you prefer it is as wrong as saying Wow is the best because it have more players.

    We could get a few actual numbers, like polygon count and similar to get a few actual numbers but judging which game is best on numbers like that isn't good either.

    This discussion is pointless, OP should have said "I prefer DFO" instead of saying that it is best. Which game is best differs from who you ask.

  • majimaji Member UncommonPosts: 2,091

    Originally posted by oscarkool2

    Yes, most gamers can't handle getting ganked by more developed characters.  

    Question: Why would anyone like getting killed suddenly by a player you can't do anything against? They could also make the game kill me in random intervalls with a /kill command, and the result would be the same. Except that by the game, I wouldn't be mocked at, compared to the player. Why should I like getting killed this way?

    We know this.  WoW has made most mmorpg players into wussies.  But for those of us gamers that CAN handle it and don't get butthurt, there simply isn't a better game on the market at the moment.

    Actually I think that the "real" PvP players play games such as Quake3 or TF2 or something like that. Games where you join, and are on equal footing with everyone else. Where the skill decides who wins. In most MMORPGs PvP comba, the player who was grinding the most wins. Skill, strategy, good reactions, nothing matters in MMORPG combat. Grind enough, and you can kill players who were grinding less just by facerolling.

    The FPS combat.  There's currently no mmorpg doing it.  It makes other mmorpgs simply boring.  You have to aim your arrows, aim spells, swing your sword in the right direction, etc.  It makes all the other tab-targeting games a snorefest.

    I agree, FPS combat is more fun than the typical auto-aim button smashing. However: no other MMORPG but Darkfall has it? If you really think so, you haven't played many MMORPGs.

    Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)

    Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)

  • SnoepieSnoepie Member UncommonPosts: 485

    Originally posted by maji

    Originally posted by oscarkool2



    Yes, most gamers can't handle getting ganked by more developed characters.  

    Question: Why would anyone like getting killed suddenly by a player you can't do anything against? They could also make the game kill me in random intervalls with a /kill command, and the result would be the same. Except that by the game, I wouldn't be mocked at, compared to the player. Why should I like getting killed this way?

    As you progress trough the game at some point you will get the feeling with your char and start killing people..

    Every mmo out there has some kind of progressing to be made. Some mmo works with levels some work with other thinks.

    The thing with darkfall is. is that some players ingame are really good at it even with a new char so that basicly point out that the game is skill player based.

    iWe know this.  WoW has made most mmorpg players into wussies.  But for those of us gamers that CAN handle it and don't get butthurt, there simply isn't a better game on the market at the moment.

    Actually I think that the "real" PvP players play games such as Quake3 or TF2 or something like that. Games where you join, and are on equal footing with everyone else. Where the skill decides who wins. In most MMORPGs PvP comba, the player who was grinding the most wins. Skill, strategy, good reactions, nothing matters in MMORPG combat. Grind enough, and you can kill players who were grinding less just by facerolling.

    I liked unreal tournament alot but to compare it with darkfall is not really usefull.

    Games like Quake and unreal tournament are shooters

    The FPS combat.  There's currently no mmorpg doing it.  It makes other mmorpgs simply boring.  You have to aim your arrows, aim spells, swing your sword in the right direction, etc.  It makes all the other tab-targeting games a snorefest.

    I agree, FPS combat is more fun than the typical auto-aim button smashing. However: no other MMORPG but Darkfall has it? If you really think so, you haven't played many MMORPGs.

    Maybe terra online will give me the same feeling of darkfall. but games as age of conan don't match to the combat in darkfall

    Darkfall have some serieus issues we all know that. but its the gameplay that makes you hooked and it won't apply to masses.

    Av is nichy company but did a hell of good job and still doing by making this new type of mmo ( wish i found it earilier.. )

  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member UncommonPosts: 2,610

    Generally I'd say it doesn't matter too much when you compare subscription numbers in MMO;s,  But when you have a game that continues to make changes in their game and still can't draw people in, they are obviously not doing something right.  When your game is struggling even more now than it was a year ago to stay alive, something isn't going the way you wanted it to. 

     

    Here's what I can say about Darkfall.  It is the best high fantasy, sandbox, FPS, Full loot/FFA MMORPG on the market.  That is my opinion.  And yes, Mortal Online is pretty much the only competition it has.  So here I do agree with the OP.

     

    I do not believe however that Darkfall is the best MMORPG on the market.  If Darkfall was a better game, more people would be playing.  I can go through and list all the problems with it, but it really wouldn't matter.  If anyone here feels that Darkfall is the best ever, then all I can say is congratulations sir.  Have fun playing Darkfall, and stop trying to preach to the rest of us.  It's simply not working.  I don't know if anyone has noticed, but it's gotten to the point where you are almost considered a troll if you even like Darkfall.  That's not just being a hater, that's just the vast majority of us here thinking that Darkfall is an epic failure of a sandbox MMO.  No offense, that's just how it appears to be from my perspective. 

  • Mad+DogMad+Dog Member UncommonPosts: 785

    Originally posted by Vespura

    I hate that game. I farmed bosses for 3 hours and some dude came up, killed me, and took everything.

    Luv it

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  • fatboy21007fatboy21007 Member Posts: 409

    darkfall was a neat idea, i tried the trial n didnt like the games clunkyness or the graphics or the lag, So i never liked it. However Xsyon is pretty fun :-)

  • xanphiaxanphia Member Posts: 684

    Originally posted by fatboy21007

    darkfall was a neat idea, i tried the trial n didnt like the games clunkyness or the graphics or the lag, So i never liked it. However Xsyon is pretty fun :-)

    Xsyon is good for a crafter. Combat = horrible.

  • fatboy21007fatboy21007 Member Posts: 409

    combats being revamped but u can do damn near anything in Xsyon.

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