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Battle Reform Blueprint
Badem
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I found this (thanks reddit)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/10879-Battle-Reform-Blueprint
Battle Reform Blueprint
Dear fans,
It is with pleasure that I announce the release of the battle reform blueprint. My apologies to have kept you waiting for so long, but due to my primary patch commitments, this document has been longer in the making than intended.
But without further ado, please allow me to take you through the blueprint and explain in detail the planned changes and the driving force behind each of them.
Akihiko Matsui
Lead Battle Planner
Reform Concept
Fostering Skillful Play
Creating a battle system that fosters skillful play.
The above is, in a sentence, the rationale behind the coming battle changes. Not exactly the punchiest catchphrase around, but perhaps there’s kindly a soul out there who could word it better. */poke Yoshi-P*
To elaborate, we are aiming to address issues such as the following:In light of the above, our objective is to implement a battle system that rewards player effort and innovation in such areas as equipment, hunting grounds, and party structure.
Victories coming with little reliance on skillful play.
Lack of information needed for skillful play.
No sense of accomplishment even with skillful play.
Lastly, in conceiving these changes, we have kept one fact close to heart: simply making enemies stronger does not equate to an environment that fosters and rewards skillful play.
Battle Content
Dungeons
Dungeons, the proving grounds for parties, will be released in 1.18. We will be implementing two types to begin with, with future updates to usher in additional maps and battle concepts.
This content takes the form of raid missions in which players slash and burn their way through a labyrinthine area before finally squaring off against a formidable final foe. Dungeons are intended to push teamwork to the limit, and players can expect a level of satisfaction (and spoils!) befitting the challenge.
To coincide with the addition of dungeons, a number of actions and skills will receive tweaks ahead of time, the details of which will be released at a later date.
Notorious Monsters
We will continue to introduce new NMs on a regular basis, although numbers may be modest for patches boasting large-scale features such as dungeons. Players can look forward to engaging in more epic struggles and acquiring spectacular spoils.
Partying
Skillful Partying
Alongside our ongoing endeavors to make solo adventuring ever more rewarding, we are also injecting effort into making full-fledged partying more enjoyable. At the heart of this undertaking is a series of plans to draw out the uniqueness of each class (details in the Armoury System section below).
It goes without saying to those familiar with MMORPGs, but the masterful manipulation of the following facets of battle is the cornerstone of effective partying.
Enmity (hate) control, which governs the enemy’s attack target.
Crowd control (CC), the act of rendering enemy groups incapable of attacking.
Enmity (Hate) Control
Following review, we have deemed the current algorithm unnecessarily complicated, and as such have decided to simplify the system as follows:A hate conversion formula will be applied to actions that target friendlies or do not inflict damage.
Damage will convert to enmity at a one-to-one ratio (in most cases)
Players will have the means to examine their own current hate value.
Furthermore, a player’s enmity will be made constantly visible as a percentage of that of the party member being attacked. A feature whereby players may examine hate values for all party members is also under consideration for a future update.
Crowd Control (CC)
As crowd control tactics are expected to gain in prominence with the introduction of dungeons, a host of adjustments is being planned centered around the following:
The reforming of crowd control methods
Tweaks to crowd control actions and their distribution among classes.
Solo Play
Solo play is the preferred choice of those short on time, and we intend to preserve the balance wherein adventurers can take on foes of the same rank unaided. Even as we work to further accentuate the uniqueness of each class, we will make it so that all classes are capable of ranking up via solo play.
Auto-attack and Other Systems
Auto-attack
We will be implementing auto-attack. As the workload for this is expected to be considerable, however, the feature will be introduced in stages alongside revisions for other systems.
For the first stage, we will implement the core mechanics of auto-attack and perform provisional adjustments to the accompanying damage algorithm. The next stage, planned to take place after the aforementioned crowd control and action/skill revisions, will involve a fine-tuning of the auto-attack algorithm. Other algorithms will also undergo revisions, which will be explained further below. In so doing, we hope to further draw out the unique flavor of each weapon. At this same time, we will also carry out motion and other graphical revisions to accommodate auto-attack.
Action Bar
We realize that having to reequip gear and reset actions every time you change class is a source of chagrin. Although we are unable to indicate a timeframe, discussions are underway with the UI team on ways for players to retain equipment and action data for each class.
As battle revisions encompass not only tweaks to areas such as classes, items, and monsters, but also entail improvements to user interface, we wanted to share with you this aspect of our plans as well.
Battle Regimens
We are afraid to inform you that work on the Battle Regimen system has been postponed, as adjustments and additions alone will not suffice to address problems. There is a need to rework the system from the ground up, and we will lay the foundation stones after other changes have been seen to completion.
Character Development
Battle Attribute Allotment
When it comes to battle, class rank should, by logic, be more important than physical level. The reality of the situation, however, is that attribute point allotment is dependent upon physical level, something that is causing complications in our endeavor to improve the battle system.
In the recent battle poll (thanks to all who participated), we learned that a considerable number of players would be willing to forgo physical levels, but wanted to retain the ability to customize characters through attribute allotment. Armed with this knowledge, we proceeded to formulate the optimal solution.
The decision: attribute point allotment will no longer accompany gains in physical level, and will instead occur when characters rise in class rank. Although the amount in frequency of points awarded will be lower than previously, players will find that each point will have a more profound effect.
Algorithms
In light of changes planned for the Armoury System, the need to revise algorithms has arisen. At the same time, we will also carry out the changes below in order to streamline areas made overly complicated.Many in-game elements are known to influence algorithms, and we are working on identifying them all regardless of the extent of their impact.
Abolishing the rounding formula based on standard rank values *1
Optimizing the value ranges for the influence of attributes *2
We believe that the above changes will allow players to more keenly feel and appreciate the myriad benefits offered by magic and equipment, which will lead to a new depth of enjoyment in attributes.
*1 The algorithm whereby values associated with rank are rounded up or down to be as close to the standard as possible.
*2 The system whereby enhancing statuses (whether obtained through attribute allotment, equipment, or magic) are influenced by incremental sets of values.
Armoury System
Classes
Actions will undergo major revisions, along with both the underlying mechanics and conditions.
By major revisions, not only do we mean the tweaking of effects and potency of existing actions - we will work from the ground up to redesign and reassign actions based on clearly identified class roles.
We will also make a number of changes as part of our reexamination of how actions are equipped and the character requirements for doing so. First, actions learned by each class will be set to the action bar by default when playing as that class. Also, we will be making some actions settable on any class, while other "class-defining" actions obtained at higher ranks will be usable only by that class.
Jobs
The job system - that series-defining trademark - will be implemented in FINAL FANTASY XIV (details such as specific jobs TBA). Quests to unlock each job will become available once you have reached a certain rank in the corresponding class.
Rather than being advanced versions of classes, we would like players to think of jobs as specialized playing styles optimized for partying. While playing as a particular job will render you unable to equip certain actions of other classes, you will be compensated with access to exclusive actions, which can be acquired through quests.
In practice, players will find the existing classes effective when playing solo or in certain party setups. Jobs, however, will shine in party situations where specific skill sets are demanded. Now, you didn’t hear this from me, but there are also rumors circulating that quests for obtaining job-exclusive equipment are also in the pipes.
We at the development team are currently hard at work on the job system, and expect to have details to share with you soon.
In Closing
Fighting the Good Fight
Thank you for taking the time to pore over these words. Having read the blueprint, there is bound to be more than a few players who feel that we’ve only recited a handful of things common to all MMORPGs. There may be others still who are saddened - perhaps even piqued - that elements they felt made FINAL FANTASY XIV unique will be going to the cutting block.
I would like to clarify here that the battle team’s overarching objective is to lay a solid foundation upon which to build new elements - elements that will bring out the best in FINAL FANTASY XIV. The marriage of classes and jobs is representative of this endeavor. Whereas the ease of play classes offer will find favor with solo and casual party players, jobs will add a new depth of enjoyment for those wishing to take on high-level, strategy-rich content.
A period of great change is underway, and we ask you to bear with us. FINAL FANTASY XIV is dear to us as it is to our fans, and there is simply nothing we would love more than to see it flourish into everything it can be. And to see this wish become reality, we promise to spare no effort in delivering the ultimate battle experience to players.
On behalf of the team, thank you always for your encouragement and support.
Comments
Cool find. I enjoyed reading that article.
I'm glad I picked this game up, recently. I've never really seen a game with a developer so ready to make changes to a game, and playing it while they happen will be interesting. Seems like most games change when I quit playing them, only to come back and be entirely lost.
Seeing the thing about getting rid of physical levels and adding a job system makes me happy. I loved FFXI, and wouldn't mind FFXIV ending up being a prettier clone of it's aged brother. It's too bad that all this had to happen after release, but it may be a very worthwhile experience to play when all is said and done. Already I'm enjoying it though, so the changes will just enhance the experience.
And what people also need to remember is, Squares high sense of honor, they knew this game was subpar at launch, as such the game has been COMPLETELY FREE since launch. There is no subscription fee at the moment, so you can play the game now until square feels the game is quality. SO those of you looking for soemthing to do i suggest you get on this.
The game looks like in the future it will get to where it shouldve been.
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So, how solo friendly is this? I'm not anti-group but I play at odd hours (work sucks). Also, how busy are NA servers, will it be impossible to find a group?
Ye the game isnt that bad actually and if you can get past the horrible UI its surely worth the low cost and free sub. For me the only problem really is the UI. Combat is ok, but even the simplest thing is still at least 3 clicks away... Just today I've been checking into mining and weaving and just mining a single node takes 5-10 minutes and its so clunky and boring I just want to slap myself for keeping at it. Still the good outweighs the bad for me, atm.
O_o
Somehow this intrigues me, like I could get into something on the ground floor just when it's ready to take off. But, I'm not the sharpest knife in the draw.
Yes the UI is bad, but they are making a new UI for Keyboard/mouse users.
Also have no idea how it can take you that long to mine a node, takes me 30-60 secs max to fully mine a single node
I feel like this Yoshi P guy is lying about "Fostering Skillful Play". I just don't see that happening. The combat seems utterly static. Doesn't skillful play comes from mobility?
Guild Wars 2's 50 minutes game play video:
http://n4g.com/news/592585/guild-wars-2-50-minutes-of-pure-gameplay
Everything We Know about GW2:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/287180/page/1
Umm, they are redo'ing the whole battle mechanics. How can you say that before even the first changes have been rolled out?
Sometimes.
It has been a long time since I played FFXI, but back in 2004 skillful play meant:
-Managing MP and timing pulls to get bonus exp chains for defeating mobs.
-Timing skills to stop monsters from doing devastating attacks. i.e. Goblins would sometimes toss bombs and timing a skill to hit him while we was preparing to throw one would cause him to drop it and hurt himself.
-Setting up skill chains to significantly increase damage to mobs. Required timing and cooperation with group members.
-A thief would sometimes positiion themselves behind the enemy, other group members, or behind a group member behind the enemy to unleash high damage attacks and help control aggro.
- It also meant kiting bosses and switching between multiple tanks.
Um... this was all there but on very low level I think. I mean sure in SOME encounters the stun mattered but other then that, down time usually was enough.
Well... meh... I thought above was already implemented in XIV. So I guess I'm saying that he's lying, atleast in my eyes, if above is all that's what Yoshi is going for.
Guild Wars 2's 50 minutes game play video:
http://n4g.com/news/592585/guild-wars-2-50-minutes-of-pure-gameplay
Everything We Know about GW2:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/287180/page/1
Just because your definition of "skill" may not sync up with the incoming changes to the system (something we don't even know all the details about yet) doesn't make him a liar. Not even close.
XI's combat was never anything to write home about, to be frank, but they still managed to get around the limitations with properly designed events. In the end there was challenge even though the combat mechanics didn't really leave much room for it.
If they are attempting to make the new combat better than in XI (which isn't hard) and make the engine more flexible, they can easily make it challenging either way.
I like their way to be honest. Do not punish failure, award success.