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I want to like this game...
Warsaurus
Member Posts: 37
I decided to try MO a week or so ago, mainly influenced by a thread on this very site. So I downloaded the trial. As I did so I thought of all the potential issues that could arise from my prior knowledge of MO. Specifically, I had heard numerous bugs, lack of content and more assorted bad information. This didn't deter me, I just wanted to be prepared, and therefore not immediatly be angry at any issues that I may have. Through my few days of playing, I've been surprised. I've encountered zero problems that I would call bugs. The client dislikes me alt-tabbing to browse the forums of MO, which is the only complaint I have (Which, compounded with the main point of this thread, will become an irritant).
Now I figured I should get that out of the way because that's 90% of all the bad reports I've heard of MO. So, I commend the devs of MO for fixing the bugs that I'd heard of, because, I've seen none. Now to the point.
My main problem with MO, is simply lack of information, and lack of visible progress. Understanding that MO is a more 'hardcore' MMO, I completely understand that progress will be slow. I don't expect to be hacking my way through hordes of enemies in my first month of MO, but I at least was hoping by day three I could walk more than fifty yards from my starting village. On my first day I challenged a wolf with my noobie sword and zero armor. It destroyed me. So I went back to chopping wood. Grabbing armor, and almost tripling my sword skill, my health, and the rest of my stats, I tried again (still with noobie sword, more on that in a minute). I died just as fast. After a full day (7-10 hours played time) I had gotten nowhere in the game. Not even visibly better against a wolf.
My immediate thought was, it must be my sword. So I started to work on getting a sword. Since I have found no method of buying a sword, I figured that I needed to make one. I had the vague idea of how to mine, so I started. But then I had no idea what ore I was looking for, what minerals would make that ore, or anything else. "To the Forums!" I yelled, scaring my cat and disturbing the neighbors.
Once there I encountered my second problem. Lack of information. I looked at the guides, but found them severely lacking. I saw that I needed an obvious metal. Pig Iron is what I guessed I needed, because no guide stated what a noob player should do to upgrade their weapon. Searching through the list of information concerning Pig Iron I started on a precarious path to making a weapon. I then realized that my skills needed adjusting if I wanted to make a sword. After another few hours I had just finally gotten to where I could smelt said Pig Iron. I then placed my Blood Ore into the kiln and fired it up.
Failure! I didn't have the needed amounts of my catalyst and Blood Ore. Why did nobody tell me? Fine! Fine! I'll just get more! So I try again with double the amounts. Failure. So I then decided I either didn't have the needed amounts, or I was lacking in skills. Browsing the forums (Closing game each time due to the annoying client) I couldn't find what I was doing wrong. It may have been the amounts, it may have been my skills, it may have been other reasons that I cannot guess.
I then of course, out of curiosity, looked up the needed skills to make a sword. My eyes widened as each skills was outlined. I weakly gazed at my remaining skills, and realized, I barely had enough to get to Pig Iron, and now I need to put more into just making the basic sword! It was a nightmare. I gazed longingly at the horizon and sighed, wondering if it was even worth it.
As this long-winded post has explained, MO has provided me with a long grind, and very little progress, and even some frustration. The lack of information led me to make the wrong decisions on numerous occassions, and backtracking through these decisions was more than a hassle. After all of this struggling with trying to advance my character, I have gained nothing. Some frail armor, and some skill in swords is all that allows me to advance in the world, but that slight advantage is useless against the wolves sitting outside of the town I'm in. (I can walk past the wolves, but then what? Surely they can't be any tougher than the monsters waiting behind them? If I can't kill the wolves, what hope have I of killing other monsters in the world?)
Explaining again in brief. MO looks like a good game. I want to get into this game. I'm willing to spend time with this game, but the time i've spent learning just seems wasted. For a new player, this is frustrating, and I have more free time and perseverance than many. I simply wish MO either had guides made that instruct me on how to advance for a few days instead of simply a few minutes. I wish that I could see my progress, besides having to learn skill after skill to be able to make material X that I then can make into product Y after I again learn another 5 skills, only to realized that product Y is useless to me in the first place.
I want to get into MO, and I want to like this game. But after three solid days, I just don't see any progress, and I don't see any room for progress even if I spend the next three days playing. And then, my biggest fear is, what if I can kill the wolf, only to advance only another fifty yards and meet something larger, that takes me another week of being completely in the dark on how to kill it and progress. But hey, at least the sunsets look really really good. 
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With the skill cap, you're not going to be able to make a great crafter that's also a great fighter.
I'm assuming you're in Vadda, given the proximity of the wolves to the town. Wolves are pretty tough, and hit pretty hard - they are definitely not a starter mob. I'd recommend killing weasels and pigs in that area to train your skills and make some money from selling the carcasses to a butcher. Keep reading some of the guides on the official forum that most closely match the type of character you want to be.
That leads me to the best thing I can think of to tell you - talk to other players (and look for a guild to join). You'd be surprised at how friendly and helpful a lot of them will be. Getting really cheap (or free) armor and weapons from them is certainly not out of the question, as well as some helpful tips to go along with it. If you can make your way to Bak-ti, I can pretty much guarantee that some of the players there will help you, especially the Forsaken guys. TOG and AI are helpful guilds in the game too.
My advice: Stick with it. You sound like the type of player that would value the experience that MO offers that most other games do not. You just need to get your bearings a little bit more - it's not an easy game.
Oh, one other thing - the Dawn expansion will have an improved tutorial system when it comes out, though you're likely already more advanced that the basics it's likely to show you.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
I am, in fact in Vadda
. I'm trying to be an archer, but with the way things are going, I'm probably just going to settle on just a random dude with a sword for now, until cash starts coming in. (And I get off the trial if I make it that far.)
I'm thinking about a guild, but I would dislike getting into one, with the chance that I completely decide to never play the game again here in a week. But, I may check one or two out, just to get my bearings and ask questions.
Also, with Bak-ti, can you give me a general direction from Vadda? I would normally just look up a map, but I have this strange urge to download a map software and make my own, personal map of Nave, filling in the details with my explorations. So, I'm trying to refrain from seeing a larger map that gives me any spatial knowledge of the area. (This is probably a terrible idea being new, but, being a former WoW player, I do relish the discovery of a new world and all of that.)
few days ago you made a thread also in the portal online forum spot named: This game is great now
wich did not made me read your post mo is a sandbox you cant dislike the game a few days after you did like it becouse in a sandbox you have to create your own fun, not liking that or unable to create your fun then a sandbox is not for you
^ This is true, as I did make a post in that topic. I do also agree that one cannot call a sandbox boring by only a few days of played time. However, I am merely stating that the execution of said sandbox, may leave new players (As myself) feeling lost, un-educated, and feel like the progress they have made, is in fact, worthless. The game itself, as an ideal, and in gameplay is in most aspects, excellent, however these two factors, lack of information, and lack of initial visible progress, are strong detractors for new players.
" I want to like this game..."
That's your problem right there. Don't.
Bak-ti is essentially southeast of Vadda. As the crow flies, it's also not extremely far, but obviously you're going to run into some steep terrain in trying to go the direct route. One hint - if you eventually run across a really big lake, head south from that. I don't want to ruin your exploration more than that, but if you need more directions, just ask.
Good luck!
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
Well, I made it to the lake. I went the wrong way first, made my way into the desert, found a fortress in the making by one guild or another, and a strange rock. Found deer, which I could kill! This will provide a great source of income if I predict correctly. Made my way SE, found a herd of Steppe and Mongol horses, marked their location. Then I skirted some player houses and came to the lake. Walked a few steps in, and sank like a lead bar. Lost my armor -_- So I'm back at Vadda. By the end of the night my armor should be re-aquired through mining, and tomorrow I'll make my way to Bak-ti again. Again, thanks for the information, it has been helpful
Ouch. Yeah, being laden with a lot of weight will send you right to the bottom. I've done that without thinking more times than I'd care to admit.
It sound like you're going in the right general direction, though. Bak-ti isn't too far from the lake.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
replace those commas with some periods, awful grammar! sorry
^ Apologies. I tend to type/write how I would speak. Therfore commas are placed after I would take a pause while talking. It's terrible grammar I know, but I just can't break the habit I've gotten so used to.
@Rohn; Well I actually made it to Bak-ti. Unfortunatly, the river decided to be wider than I thought. In my immense stupidty I tried to jump at a small ford. This didn't work, sending me again to the bottom. I now have sworn to never get within 5 yards of water in MO ever again.
But at least I'm at the town now, just need to get some cash, re-buy some armor and leveling some butchering skills (Hopefully I can gain some cash through that trade) until I have enough money to trade for a good sword or bow. Then, eventually I hope to tame a horse soon. But first things first, back to breaking rocks for copper coins.
You know you can swim right? Even without reading the swimming book you'll be able to swim in Mortal Online. You probably had a ton of wieght in your inventory and that caused you to sink like a stone to the bottom. Nex time this happens try deleting a few things in your inventory until you can swim again, or just avoid going into the water with a full inventory.
Never trust a screenshot or a youtube video without a version stamp!
This ^. keep in mind also the swimming weight limit is pretty low (not sure at which weight your swimming starts to be gimped). If you see youself needing to swim with a lot of inventory often, look into a skill called "resistance swimming", which helps you do exactly that. But yeah, water's no joke in this game
Glad you made it, even with the challenges in travel.
Regarding swimming - you've got water close to you now, so if you like you can bank all your stuff and head there to practice swimming. It doesn't take long to get some skill in it by swimming around a bit (your Survival will go up too). Also, keep in mind that when you do have heavy loads, it's worth it to look up and downstream a bit, because there are a number of bridges in the world. You'll get used to it the more you explore your surroundings.
There's a good number of pigs right behind Bakti to kill and work on butchering. There are wolves and a few wisents around Bak-ti as well - careful with those. You'll find a few other things if you start heading toward the jungle as well.
Keep checking with the Librarian for skill books you might want - many of the basic ones are only 10s and will get your skill up to ~70 a lot of the times. There are a few different Librarians there, so take a look around.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.