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APB.... reloaded? .. or a rehash of the same load?
Divion
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I'm a little befuddled...
I was so exicted last night to get off work, download APB:Reloaded - and get to playing the game i paid 50 bucks for almost a year ago...
I log in, and i find my ecitement quickily tempered after a few hours of play...
Where to start?
First off, if ANYTHING has changed in this game it was too subtle for me to notice.. everything felt the same, from the choppy response time, to non-streamlined performance, even to the gameplay mechanics including missions, and the APB system, still flawed, match-making still unbalanced, and cheating is everywhere...
I'll break those down.
I'm running a i7 920 socket on a Asus P6TSE w/ 6 gigs of DDR3 Cosiar / Backed by a EVGA Nivida 450TI w/ 1 gig DDR5 Vram on windows 7 pro 64 bit- a system i been upgrading and tweaking for the better part of the last year, a system i would classifiy as a "Slightly above average" gaming rig, and i can't run this game on medium graphics on 1080P with out having major hangs? These hangs would be dealable if the game wasn't a FPS! You can't have hangs, graphical snares, or lags in a game that requires microsecond twitch inorder to suceed -- If i can run the BRAND new Aion "High quality" Graphics engine on max setting with a superfluous 100FPS why can i run this game w/ it's fairly decent (Per industry standard) graphics on medium? This was a deal breaker the first time i played, and it still is now...
Moving past performance and steamlining issues, lets talk about game play -- Its the same? it sure is.. nothing is different... lackluster missions, uncreative linear play, essentially poorly masked facades for what amounts to unabalanced death matchs with one side either with an advantage in skills, weapons, numbers, or mission objectives - and when you are really screwed ALL THE ABOVE! -- I didn't understand how at R1 i was being matched against R50s with Cash Shop weapons, outnumbered, and they had the easy mission objective... clearly i stood no chance.. and whats worse after i get steam rolled i get to hear what sounds like 15 year old boys say "Yeah nigga eat that shit, yeah nigga got pwned", on their mics.
Which rolls into my next point, this game attracts the worst community i've ever seen in a game, hands down and thats saying something as i played allot of MMOs including -WoW- lol.
I've seen only one major different with this game... the CASH SHOP! its the only thing different ive seen thus far...
And how awesome is it to spend 50 bucks on a game, return to it, and have to PAY again just to be able to customize my character? Or to use guns i had already unlocked in the RTW version...
So nothing has changhed except for the fact the game i paid for i need to pay for again....
What a RELOAD of crap!
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Yeah I'm still not sure what changed. All of the things I remember being wrong with the game, are for the most part still there. Cheating is definately out in full force. As much as I want to play the game, with Gamersfirst at the helm. I doubt the game will improve. It's good enough if you don't plan to spend any money in it/for it. If something was done about the cheaters I could let most of the other problems slide (like the Matchmaking).
Still has one of the best customization mechanics around. I spent about 3 hours today just doing nothing but creating tattoo's. It's pretty sad that I find it to be the best part of the game. Everything else could use a ton of work. Hit detection, Car physics, Network code, etc.
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Was there any compensation for actually buying the game?! Do you get things that other players do not?
Strange, i run APB on a significantly lesser system and it runs fine..
Did you uninstall pando media booster that was installed when you downloaded?
Also, some of us rather enjoy those lack luster missions ect. I play for the carnage, not an in depth lore like you would see in a fantasy mmorpg...in fact im loving this game because its nothing like a fantasy mmorpg, or an mmorpg at all really.
Curious though...if you hated the game so much the first time around, why bother comming back? You think they redeveloped the game in the time between RTW going bankrupt and selling the game to K2?
I do understand they did a bit of reworking, such as some items removed or left unimplimented, possibly changing the way a few things work.
But yeah..if your having issues running the game on that system...you got something wrong on your side my 3 year old mid ranged system with a gtx 260 runs the game just fine, aside from those moments when a ton of people are on my screen blowing stuff up, and even then its still playable...however im not running it on max.
Get rid of pando, mabey then you can hate the game with no lag...
One day...people will start enjoying games (and other methods of enjoyment in life) for what they are, not hating them for what they are not.
Play APB to enjoy the carnage, the RP, the mix of driving and shooting, and the customization...those are the games strong suits.
IF you played APB and say there are no changes to be seen, you haven't played the game.
"First off, if ANYTHING has changed in this game it was too subtle for me to notice.. everything felt the same, from the choppy response time, to non-streamlined performance, even to the gameplay mechanics including missions, and the APB system, still flawed, match-making still unbalanced, and cheating is everywhere..."
The matchmaker actually works, but G1 did not implement district segmentation yet. So at this point only 50% of the matchmaker is in, pretty dull if you ask me. In my opinion, they had to wait with OB until this was implemented. However, I have to laugh at your cheater comment. That is just not true. I invite you to play with our clan and you'll see how smooth missions will go. It's a common mistake in this game that, if you are getting owned, the other must cheat. I can only say, make use of the camera.
"I'm running a i7 920 socket on a Asus P6TSE w/ 6 gigs of DDR3 Cosiar / Backed by a EVGA Nivida 450TI w/ 1 gig DDR5 Vram on windows 7 pro 64 bit- a system i been upgrading and tweaking for the better part of the last year, a system i would classifiy as a "Slightly above average" gaming rig, and i can't run this game on medium graphics on 1080P with out having major hangs? These hangs would be dealable if the game wasn't a FPS! You can't have hangs, graphical snares, or lags in a game that requires microsecond twitch inorder to suceed -- If i can run the BRAND new Aion "High quality" Graphics engine on max setting with a superfluous 100FPS why can i run this game w/ it's fairly decent (Per industry standard) graphics on medium? This was a deal breaker the first time i played, and it still is now..."
Very weird indeed. I run a slightly better system and have a steady 60fps per second. Do you have Vsync enabled? On a side note, don't use Aion as an example as that game runs very smooth on almost every system due to the engine being used.
"Moving past performance and steamlining issues, lets talk about game play -- Its the same? it sure is.. nothing is different... lackluster missions, uncreative linear play, essentially poorly masked facades for what amounts to unabalanced death matchs with one side either with an advantage in skills, weapons, numbers, or mission objectives - and when you are really screwed ALL THE ABOVE! -- I didn't understand how at R1 i was being matched against R50s with Cash Shop weapons, outnumbered, and they had the easy mission objective... clearly i stood no chance.. and whats worse after i get steam rolled i get to hear what sounds like 15 year old boys say "Yeah nigga eat that shit, yeah nigga got pwned", on their mics."
Cashshop weapons are NOT overpowered in this game, they are different. If a very easy mistake to make, because the weapons you get at endgame are just as good. Ofcourse, a R20 with a cash shop gun has a advantage over a R20 with a normal gun, but without aim the cash shop gun won't be good anyway.
"Which rolls into my next point, this game attracts the worst community i've ever seen in a game, hands down and thats saying something as i played allot of MMOs including -WoW- lol."
Please do not start the community thing. It's bad in all shooters, nothing worse here. Go look for a clan and problem solved.
"I've seen only one major different with this game... the CASH SHOP! its the only thing different ive seen thus far..."
Again, if you think this is the only change, you never played the game. Only issue I have with the cash shop, that when APB:R will launch premium will be on the expensive side.
"And how awesome is it to spend 50 bucks on a game, return to it, and have to PAY again just to be able to customize my character? Or to use guns i had already unlocked in the RTW version..."
Please.. G1 has NOTHING to do with our purchese when Realtime Worlds was in charge. G1 bought the game, and even gave us the possibility to get our symbols and clothing back. We got screwed over by RTW, not by G1.
Hard to tell what's wrong with your system, cause my i7 860, 4Gb RAM, NV GTX570 runs @1920x1080 perfectly (full settings in the game, forced v-sync@60Hz), W7 64-bit.
There's occational stuttering that seems to be connection related (when the game loads data sound distorts a bit and game lags. It's so minor annoyance it doesn't even bother me).
My now 3+ year old system can run the game on high settings without a sweat, though if there is one truth to this the game certainly will cause my computer to crash after hours of gameplay... I mean 10+ straight hours which is a lot of time to begin with so it's not a huge issue.
I am dissapointed in how little has changed balance wise... but overall the game is still addicting as shit even if trying to find a decent group is one of the biggest pains in the ass you could ever imagine.
On a side note I don't really notice the cash shop, this is one of the FEW F2P games that I might actually seriously play because I don't see people paying with real money getting extreme benefits. Hell I'd pay for "premium" as well if the cost was lowered to a reasonable price.
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Well mind you this is the G1 "beta", things regarding the cash shop tend to take a turn for the worse shortly after "launch".
Currently, premium ($10) lets you cut in line if there is ever a queue...i never noticed a queue for the server before i went premium, however, its hard to tell now, it feels like theres more players, but again hard to guage.
Also, there are weapons for sale. Now currently weapons are kind of a joke to obtain for free...other than unlocking them. Its easy to do even if all weapons are 10 day rentals while obtained in game for free. Also, your permanant starter weapons...surprisingly competative for most of the game As a criminal, at about mid game, i have just about every gun i can buy purchased, all the cars that ive unlocked so far (some i sold since i never use them and i can only have 10 at a time) and im sitting on hundreds of thousands of APB$, waiting for the top tier unlocks. Basically the cash shop weapons are just out of convienience. A skilled player at APB with the starter gun will dominate a cash shop whore who has little understanding of the game, which is how it should be imo.
Pretty good cash shop balance, however, far too often F2P games have decent item malls in beta, then quickly start the "pay to win", and then "pay or get dominated path".
Hard to tell at this time if K2 will opt for a fair cash shop or a "pay more than a p2p game to compete" kind of cash shop.
But never ever take an open beta cash shop as something that will be permanant.
FFS, do you people even play PC games?!?! It's NOT a FPS you sad sack of shit. It's an Action MMOG!
I feel I'm the only one who gives a shit! Stop calling it a FPS!
DO YOU SPAWNS OF IDIOCRACY EVEN KNOW WHAT FPS STANDS FOR!?!?!
edit: IT"S EVEN IN THE DAMN OVERVIEW!
APB Reloaded is a much better title compared to the first launch, technically speaking. It's stronger point is its VAST customization capabilities and the shooting action fun. What this game will suffer from is , aim-hacking and underaged noob-ragers that don't co-operate in a game that needs grouping 1000000%.
If you can manage and create a clan with mature players, get on a vent and do missions, it's a great game!
I have no issues running the game (i7 Q740, 8gig ram, GTX 460M), but don't let anyone fool you about cheaters. Aimbotters and radar hacks are most certainly in this game.
Yes I can tell the difference between getting pwnd and getting cheated, as can my large guild of hardcore gamers. I get pwnd REGLARLY in APB. I get cheated only occasionally, but it DOES happen.
I really hope that *insert game name here* will be the first game to ever live up to all of its pre-release promises, maintain a manageable hype level and have a clean release. Just don't expect me to hold my breath.
Keep in mind, this is being put out by the same company that tried to bill Sword 2 as a sequel to Sword of the New World. So, in that light, just be happy they aren't calling this something like, "All Points 2: Reloaded"
I've always said there isn't that much that can be done to fix APB. It's too poorly structured from the ground up. No amount of patching and tweaking will change that. But, at least being F2P, maybe the people who do like it will be seeing a lot more competition, instead of just being matched against each other all the time.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
ah yes, and since you said it it's surely a fact and no opinion
surely a not 100% working matchmaking system cannot be patched, your wisdom is enlightening. nothing can fix numbers who are compared wrongly. that's definatly another fact.
incase anyone is really interested in the topic (in oposite to the really smart poster quoted above), enough of the trolling and some real comments now:
imo G1 does quite the good work atm, and the "reloaded" part is surely something they earned too.
new features (racing, turf war and a distrcict) will be added "soon" and they surely did a good work while fighting hackers so far too. they ARE still working on the matchmaking, but find a few friends to team up with, and you should be set.
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Ok, so according to you: real comments = positive comments and negative comments = not real comments.
ok, got it.
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