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Has the game improved? Only new/returning reply please.

I only want an answer form NEW or RETURNING players who have acutally PLAYED THE GAME in the rcent past, lets say the last month or so.  Please don't turn this into another "i played beta and it sucked, the game wasn't ready for release", beta is long over! If you haven't been on the game please don't respond! I am looking for honest good and bad answers about the CURRENT condition of the game. Especially from folks who gave up the game previously and recently gave it a shot due to the article posted yesterday.

I was beta all the way from the 2nd pass. Took a very active part in the game and the fan web page (tazoon.com), even spent many, many hours writing up documents to help out new players (faq).  In fact.. should be a Guard Jezabel in game someplace :).

Like many others I did loose interest as it went live and the game was bascially un-playable. I never even bought it.

Anyone who has recently re-tried the game.. is there improvement? I understand the low population and the difficulty with that.  But beyond that how did it play? How was lag? could you actually play a caster?

Thanks in advance for honest responses.

 

 

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  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378

    Read my "first impressions" post.

    I am gonna put Ryzom on hold for now and play Horizons, the crafting is very kewl hehe I'll post more on your thread here when I play more image And btw I got no lag

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  • KlausWKlausW Member Posts: 165


    Originally posted by Jezabel
    I was beta all the way from the 2nd pass. Took a very active part in the game and the fan web page (tazoon.com), even spent many, many hours writing up documents to help out new players (faq).  In fact.. should be a Guard Jezabel in game someplace :).
     
     

    Heh - Now I'll have to keep an eye out for her!

    If you still have copies of any of those documents - especially any lore! - would you mind terribly posting them at the community forums? Tazoon.com's demise cost the player community a tremendous knowledge asset; anything you have that you could share would be appreciated.

    Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Hiya Jez, I have only played for a total of about 5 hours so far, but if you read my Ongoing impressions =) post, might give you some info about things you experienced in the past. I'm gonna update it often as the game has really made an impression on me. I love it! It's got such a console RPG feel to me, and I love thatimage 

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  • MyskMysk Member Posts: 982

    I've played it roughly within the last month and it has improved. As I mentioned in another thread, it's at a state now where I wouldn't actively try to disuade someone from getting the game. However, I wouldn't actively promote it at this point, either, when considering the more modern options that are either available now or will soon be.

    My character is a dragon focused purely on melee so I can't answer your question about being a caster.

    To repeat what was said in the other thread...

    They're working on a new patcher. I heard that it's eventually supposed to be a stand alone patcher so that you're not required to login to the web site. I do not know if that's true. However, it does launch some sort of application from the web page now, and the patcher has the Horizons logo. At the time that I played, this patcher was still in testing. So whether or not it launched was iffy but it generally worked well. Note that this patcher was still loaded via the web page at the time that I played and was not an external component.

    A part of the ancient right of passage is in the game. It's not complete, but you can start it if your character meets the requirements.

    Hoard items dropped a bit more regularly.

    Usable items are supposed to be a part of the loot table. I can't say that I noticed this, but then again they wouldn't do my character any good. So if they dropped they'd have gone directly to the hoard with little consideration over the item itself.

    I heard rumor that Tulga/AE is working on instancing some quests. You'll need to confirm this on your own, unfortunately, because I can't.

    New tutorials for newbies, seperated into dragon and biped tutorials respectfully. I read that the new tutorial island for dragons is available now - but again, I can't confirm this myself.

    The bad...

    The worse is that the server doesn't - or at least did not - spawn mobs until a player walked into the area. It would occasionally take a few minutes before anything spawned. If you're searching for a named mob for a kill task then this, for me, was quite annoying. This also produced moments when you're suddenly surrounded by mobs - but, spawns don't seem to immediately attack. So this wasn't a huge concern.

    ....it did make the world seem just as empty as before though, since you're generally running (or in my character's case, flying) along and don't pause to wait for things. In which case you can miss the critters spawning. I learned to hang around areas for a bit.

    There are still areas, such as Tazoon or player cities, that bring my system to a total crawl. I have to exit the area and/or look away to regain any form of movement beyond a picture slideshow. When porting to Tazoon, pulling in the view distance was required.

    Those were the two worse things in my opinion. Other than that, they need to work on real quests instead of adding more "Kill X ammount of Y" tasks. I imagine that it's frustrating for such a small dev team to try to run a game like this.

    You could always use their trial and start a new character to take a peek at the game. Just remember to cancel before ya get charged. ;)

    If you enjoyed the game before then it would probably be worth a second look by now. If you haven't played it before then, well, there are more modern games out there - but it's not going to kill you to take a look. It's just that today's gamers may find the "Kill X ammount of Y" tasks a bit too ho-hum for their tastes.

    ~Mysk

  • JezabelJezabel Member Posts: 7

    Thanks all for the responses. Please keep them comming. We are purchasing a new home so are hestiant to spend the bucks for another game. (two copies, my husband and myself). We have been playing Wow pretty extensivly, but that is loosing its joy for us. Mostly due to we just play 'solo' with the two of us, we don't join guilds so the highlevel game is difficult.

    I'll see what I can do about getting what documents I have posted. Or at least emailed to the poster who who asked for them. I do have at least the FAQ someplace. Will be pretty outdated tho, but likely still a lot of good info in it. I was very proud of it :).

    edit:

    Anarchy.. name sounds familar. "lets go to ttc" .com mean anything to you?

    I am reading the other posts.. much more postive as long as I ignore some folks posts (ones who haven't played the game currently). So yeah, will likely fire it up :). Look for a tell from Jezabel in the near future. (..counts 7 days out on her fingers).

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Hey Jezabel,

    I would have to say load it up and give it a try. I did this weekend and I must say I was pleasently surprised. It has been a long time since I played it though (July 2004) So improvement s are very noticable. you can actually travel to Tazoon now and have look around.image

    This weekend was full of people like myself returning for a look. People have alot of loyalty to this game. (I only played 2 or 3 months and left when my Guild all bailed when Chapter 11 was filed, I just retried because Im a sucker for the underdog)

    Its playable now and the dev team is working to fix and improve the game.

    I am enjoying it, its not the end all of MMORPGs but its worth a look if you are interested.

    I have a few post myself, take a look....

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Its just so old school and pleasant image Character is Dern Brando on Chaos server. If your tired of WoW (like im beginning to be, although its still fun) Horizons is like the antidote for it. Still no crashes, its not flawless, but nothing to stop your enjoyment or appreciation for the artistry and beauty of the world. God I love the music....image

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  • KlausWKlausW Member Posts: 165

    Glad to see you giving Chaos a look-see, Anarchyart. Today's maintenance is going to be a bear - we have the biggest world update since the server merge rolling from Blight to live today. Any update of this size is going to have some bugs to work out - regardless of what game you're playing! - but if you're on later tonight, give me a shout. I'll be happy to set you up with tools and equipment if you don't have them already.

    Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378

    Yes the night before maintenance I FAOK (fell asleep on keyboard lol) some time before the servers went down and I woke up and I couldnt log back in image So I waited till late last night and got to play a couple hours before bed image What is your name on Chaos? My guys name is Dern Brando (my 2 fave actorsimage) shoot me a tell! Someone named Lillia made me a full set of bronze chain and bronze plate and someone named Braknaught made me a cargo disk and gave me 5 silverimage And then some warrior named Dynasty gave me a nice 2 handed bronze sword! Such amazing people: it's like all the nice people are in one game!

    Anywho I'm set for now, I'm just gonna level on New Brommel till about 13 and then set out for Kionimage Love to join your guild once I have a few more levels under my belt, want to explore a bit more before I join a guild anways can't wait to see ya in game take care!image

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  • JezabelJezabel Member Posts: 7

    To make a long story short. Not having a good experience at all with simply down loading the free trial and patching. Not a good impression on me, seems like I have rolled 2 years back in time to all the agrivation during beta. I will likley just cancel since I haven't even been able to create a character yet, let alone get in the game, and give Guild Wars a try.

    Thanks again all for your replies! 

    /wave bye

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by Jezabel

    To make a long story short. Not having a good experience at all with simply down loading the free trial and patching. Not a good impression on me, seems like I have rolled 2 years back in time to all the agrivation during beta. I will likley just cancel since I haven't even been able to create a character yet, let alone get in the game, and give Guild Wars a try.
    Thanks again all for your replies! 
    /wave bye



    What seems to be the problem with patching? It takes about 20 mins...what is aggravating you hehe If you can't wait 20 minutes then mebbe Guild Wars will be good you won't ever have to wait. Good Luck in all you do Jezebel, but I hope you'll give Horizons a chance. It did take a while to patch, but no where near as long as WoW or EQ2 did. And once you do, its starts up legendarily fast every time after. This weeks new patch only took about 5 mins or less and it was a whopper image

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  • JDexterJDexter Member UncommonPosts: 130

    Are you guys using the multi-threaded patcher?  I use it and what a huge difference it makes for me.  I used to dread the whole patch process, but it is definitely streamlined with the multi-thread version.

    It's the thing mentioned in the upper right side of the screen when you are on the second login screen.

     

     

  • ungrimagrolungrimagrol Member UncommonPosts: 154

    I just resubscribed both my accounts yesterday; been away from HZ since server merger and playing others (EQ, EQ2, WoW, CoH).  Of those, only EQ and CoH grabbed me.

    I've been watching HZ all this time though and noticed all the changes added to game as time passes.  They are a company that really does respond to player feedback (probably they really kind of have to).  FOr me it is like an entirely new game that I need to relearn almost from scratch because pretty much everything has changed (except for lag -- but then I am used to seeing lag in games now since there is serious lag in crowded areas of every game I have tried)

    I made a dragon and see that there is a great new dragon tutorial that takes you to 3/3.  Today I will create a new biped.  Eventually when I have relearned the game enough I'll be able to play my mains.

    I rejoined my old guild: the loyal few stayed and kept it going.  And people are trickling back to the guild from other games because well there is just something about HZ that you can't find anywhere else.

  • D0ZeRD0ZeR Member Posts: 489



    Originally posted by ungrimagrol

    I just resubscribed both my accounts yesterday; been away from HZ since server merger and playing others (EQ, EQ2, WoW, CoH).  Of those, only EQ and CoH grabbed me.
    I've been watching HZ all this time though and noticed all the changes added to game as time passes.  They are a company that really does respond to player feedback (probably they really kind of have to).  FOr me it is like an entirely new game that I need to relearn almost from scratch because pretty much everything has changed (except for lag -- but then I am used to seeing lag in games now since there is serious lag in crowded areas of every game I have tried)
    I made a dragon and see that there is a great new dragon tutorial that takes you to 3/3.  Today I will create a new biped.  Eventually when I have relearned the game enough I'll be able to play my mains.
    I rejoined my old guild: the loyal few stayed and kept it going.  And people are trickling back to the guild from other games because well there is just something about HZ that you can't find anywhere else.



    Yeah right, it only took them chapter 11 another big cash flow from baker and 2 years to finally get one big patch in with more than fluff. Not to bring up all the people and companies that had to be be ripped off just so DB can put cash in his pocket. Yet the game still has all the major problems it did at launch. Some are still just masked because of how few are on server. Take it as fact if enough people start playing again you watch how the blobs start back up, just like in beta days. Why you think I tell everyone to try the game out? image

    Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
    Bruce Lee

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by ungrimagrol

    I just resubscribed both my accounts yesterday; been away from HZ since server merger and playing others (EQ, EQ2, WoW, CoH).  Of those, only EQ and CoH grabbed me.
    I've been watching HZ all this time though and noticed all the changes added to game as time passes.  They are a company that really does respond to player feedback (probably they really kind of have to).  FOr me it is like an entirely new game that I need to relearn almost from scratch because pretty much everything has changed (except for lag -- but then I am used to seeing lag in games now since there is serious lag in crowded areas of every game I have tried)
    I made a dragon and see that there is a great new dragon tutorial that takes you to 3/3.  Today I will create a new biped.  Eventually when I have relearned the game enough I'll be able to play my mains.
    I rejoined my old guild: the loyal few stayed and kept it going.  And people are trickling back to the guild from other games because well there is just something about HZ that you can't find anywhere else.



    So glad to hear ungrimagrol. Nice to hear positive input about this game I am so fond of. On the lag front, I was playing with the options and trying to find why people have such lag when I just don't and I think I found some things.

    First off, max view distance: put to 50% or less as it doesnt affect the gameplay at all and the view distance is WAY far in this game.

    Camera mouse smoothing: try playing with this option, it can cause lag if it isn't just right with your system

    And the big one: camera follow tension under camera options for third person, this option can cause major lag with the camera floating around when u don't realy want it to. Try sliding the bar all the way to one side to make it very "tight" this cuts lag down to zero for me! The camera stops when you tell it to instead of slowly coming to a halt which causes lag.

    Hope those helped at all, names Dern Brando on Chaos server, hope to see you online sometimeimage

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  • D0ZeRD0ZeR Member Posts: 489
    View distance: put to 50% or less will make some mobs and npc's not show up. They call these houdini in game.

    Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
    Bruce Lee

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by D0ZeR
    View distance: put to 50% or less will make some mobs and npc's not show up. They call these houdini in game.


    50% view distance though is VERY far away this doesn't affect any npc or mob within about a kilometre image

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  • D0ZeRD0ZeR Member Posts: 489



    Originally posted by anarchyart



    Originally posted by D0ZeR
    View distance: put to 50% or less will make some mobs and npc's not show up. They call these houdini in game.

    50% view distance though is VERY far away this doesn't affect any npc or mob within about a kilometre image


    Actually it does that has never worked the way it was suppose to. It has been an on going bug and only a new client will fix it. At least that was what was said in the past. I do know for a fact the houdini bug is still in game. image

    Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
    Bruce Lee

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by D0ZeR



    Originally posted by anarchyart



    Originally posted by D0ZeR
    View distance: put to 50% or less will make some mobs and npc's not show up. They call these houdini in game.

    50% view distance though is VERY far away this doesn't affect any npc or mob within about a kilometre image


    Actually it does that has never worked the way it was suppose to. It has been an on going bug and only a new client will fix it. At least that was what was said in the past. I do know for a fact the houdini bug is still in game. image



    Hmm haven't noticed maybe you are right I'll look closer but you really should try the game again, I had SO much fun last night fought my first golems hehe I know I'm slow but just enjoying the game. It ROCKSimage

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  • D0ZeRD0ZeR Member Posts: 489
    Only way I would pay for this game is the day DB is shown the door. As far as playing it, I told you that is the easy part, not like you need to pay. The game just has way too many problems starting with DB.

    Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
    Bruce Lee

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by D0ZeR
    Only way I would pay for this game is the day DB is shown the door. As far as playing it, I told you that is the easy part, not like you need to pay. The game just has way too many problems starting with DB.


    Well then, I wish they would fire him hehe would be kewl to meet you in game. And I'm playing it right now and let me say theres no major problems for me or I just wouldn't play it. I know you'd like it if you came in game with me and I gave you my settings seminar =) Once they are just right the game is lovelyimage

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  • ungrimagrolungrimagrol Member UncommonPosts: 154



    Originally posted by D0ZeR
    Only way I would pay for this game is the day DB is shown the door. As far as playing it, I told you that is the easy part, not like you need to pay. The game just has way too many problems starting with DB.


    Yeah got that the first 500 times you said it.  But hey whatever floats your boat.
  • D0ZeRD0ZeR Member Posts: 489



    Originally posted by ungrimagrol



    Originally posted by D0ZeR
    Only way I would pay for this game is the day DB is shown the door. As far as playing it, I told you that is the easy part, not like you need to pay. The game just has way too many problems starting with DB.

    Yeah got that the first 500 times you said it.  But hey whatever floats your boat.


    ROFL, now that I know it bothers you I will make sure to repeat it once a day.

    Have a nice day. image

    Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
    Bruce Lee

  • KlausWKlausW Member Posts: 165


    Originally posted by D0ZeR
    View distance: put to 50% or less will make some mobs and npc's not show up. They call these houdini in game.

    Um, no, we don't.

    View distance can cause lowered framerates, since it adds to the amount of stuff that needs to be rendered. If you set your 'max characters to display' option too low, then you can have issues with characters & NPCs not showing up in areas where there are a lot of people running around.

    Some people have reported problems with invisible creatures attacking them; the cause is still unknown and is under investigation. This is a fairly rare issue, though it can be rather vexing when it happens.

    Guildleader, Mithril Council, Chaos

  • ungrimagrolungrimagrol Member UncommonPosts: 154
    I am really, really loving the game!  Totally absorbed in it and relearning everything.  Hooked.  It's really great -- HZ was my first MMO and now I feel like I am coming home again.
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