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Someone help me to find a good "free" MMO besides Tibia, ashen empires and crappy runescape
arcoian
Member Posts: 30
simply looking for a fun and simple mmo, iv played guildwars and matrix online
, followed by UO, but its all to expensive now. suggestions plz 
Also I add, I LOVE PvP, and don't like browers games like AdventureQuest. URGH, Ty
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Maple Story: www.maplestory.com
Knight Online: www.knightonlineworld.com
Yet another "I wanna free MMORPG" post. Can't anyone that wants a free MMORPG take the effort to look through this forum, see that sticky?, or do google searches? Just need to look at screenshots, features, and any forums. Put some effort into it if you opt not to support the developers with money.
Anyway, Rubies of Eventide at www.eventide.net
Horizons at www.istaria.com is free if you expend the effort to join the affiliate program and have at least 13 paying subscribers (using your reseller code to sign-up).
You know, no offense to the original poster, but these sort of threads piss me off. First of all because of the reason pointed out, that there's a sticky on the board if you just bother to look. Two, there's the old idiom "Beggers can't be choosers" I mean you can't just say I want a free mmo but I don't want this one, this one or this one. People pay for mmorg's for a reason, because they're not free to run, they cost the company money long after they're released. Now the common argument is "but I don't have a credit card" well unfortantlly that arguement is BS now.. I can't think of a single game off the top of my head that doesn't have some sort of gamecard (or alternative payment method) you can go pick up at your local EB, BestBuy, Gamestop etc.. As for too expensive, fine I can understand that arguement, but if you're looking for a free mmorpg don't expect to find something that suits your taste perfectly, again "Beggers can't be choosers."
Actually, we can be but we have to look in some pretty unconventional places to find what we're looking for. Personally, I think it's kinda sleazy to charge $15 a month for a game that offers less rewarding gameplay than a $50 single player game. In case you're wondering, I've not found a single MMORPG, free or Pay 2 Play, that lived up to the unreachable promises that these games make. After a bit of thinking, I'm not sure if I want them to live up to those promises since I already have a life that takes up most of my time.
If you don't want to pay then you have three roads to travel. You can play the games on the free list or look for other games that aren't on the list (Word Forge...cough.....hack...Genecys....cought). You can go to www.mudconnector.com and browse all the text-based MUDs, MUXs, MUSHes and MOOs until you find one that's just right for you. And lastly, you can go pirate. While I wouldn't pay a dime to play most of the MMOGs currently available (GW is an exception), I've found that the become bearable when you aren't paying for them. I'm not sure what it is that makes the experience more fun, the smaller sizes of the servers, the fact that the admin and staff of said servers actually give a damn about the game and how the play community feels about it or maybe it's the fact that I don't feel like I HAVE TO PUT IN THE TIME to advance to a level where the game becomes fun in order to GET BACK THE MONEY I SHOVELED IN.
Everything I just said goes for text-based MUDs as well. There's alot out there. when it's free however, you have to put in the work to find it because no one is going to go out of their way to advertise
BTW, the free games list is a little short so I went and found a longer one. Enjoy!!
http://www.onrpg.com/mmorpg-free-games3.html
Omg.. this is why I hate posting on here, and most other forums for that matter. You're on a site for mmorpg enthusiest, and you're basiclly saying that all mmorpgs suck and aren't worth paying for? I mean jesus man why are you even here?
Then you have the audacity to claim that charging $15/month, to cover a REAL and legitimate cost of running an mmorpg is sleazy.. but stealing it isn't? I mean let me ask you this, if I were making, lets say bread and I charge you $10 a loaf, which might be a little high, so that I can cover the materials, labor, and make a little profit for my family... who is the real sleaze? The guy that's just trying to make a lil money for his family? Or the guy who comes in, takes all the bread, and eats it himself. Now if you're so cheap, and jaded to hate paying for an mmorpg fine, look for free ones, play some muds (they're quite fun) but don't sit here and say that it's wrong for a company to make a little profit, but it's ok to steal said profit. I mean seriously, think of me what you like, call me a company stooge etc.. but there is simply NO logical way to back up pirateing, and I in all seriousness defy you to give me one.
I agree I probablly should of left it alone.. that's just not in my nature. If someone is saying something I don't agree with, or that is flat our wrong, I call them on it. Ask them why they feel that way, see if they can support their beliefs, etc.. It's not out of any malice I assure you, I've got *no* ill will towards the original poster, and I'm sorry if it came off like I did. However the other poster is wrong.. not the sort of "let's agree to disagree" wrong, but wrong in the most truest sense of the word. Hence I asked if he can logiclly back up his feelings/beliefs, I suspect he can't, if he has no reason to believe what he believes... then he prob shouldn't be believing it.
That said I am sorry if I came off rantish.. this is precisly why I became a philosophy major, I have a fetish for debate. Anyway I'll leave this thread alone until the other poster attempts to give me a decent argument.
To all of you who flamed at me, Yes I did look at the "sticky" about free mmo's, thats why I posted this to ask someone if they knew a decent worth while one, and ye, i can't be bothered to look at every game on that list
you didn't have to open this topic....
by the way, paying monthly for 4 games is stupid so i'm going free and they charge too much a month. as someone said before.
Again, didn't mean to flame you.. you seem ok, just wanted to point out the sticky, that's what it's there for.. however I would flame your *sarcasm* Oh so great arguement *sarcasm* of "Paying monthly for 4 games is stupid." but to be honest I'm done posting on these boards.. with the exception of a few really intelligent people I'm convinced the majority of members are 13 year olds (not that all 13yo are bad) who are still making money by raking their mommy's yard for $5. I mean seriously.. how is $15/ month to much? What is that, like $.50/ day? I can scrounge that up in my couch cushions. Again though, if you're really *that* cheap, then by all means look for free games, AO is pretty good for being free. My real concern was with the promotion of pirating games, which is not only something I *think* is wrong, it is wrong, plain and simple.
Let me clarify what I said ealier about Monthly fees. I'm not against people charging for the goods and services they provide. I'm not against people making a profit to provide for themselves or as a reward for a job well done. I AM AGAINST OVERCHARGING (GOUGING) PEOPLE FOR CHEAP MERCHANDISE!
You see, I play games in order to be entertained. Now I realize that absolutely gobs and gobs of people play these games and find them highly entertaining. I also realize that an even larger number of people play single-player RPGs and ORPGS. There are still people playing the original Diablo on Battlenet for God's sake!! Strangely enough, the release of EQ2 and WoW hasn't reduced the number of people playing Neverwinter Nights over the internet. It seems that there's some elusive element that Single player RPGs and ORPGs have that MMORPGS don't. Hell, even text-based MUDs seem to have this element. What is this elusive missing puzzle piece? Fun. MMORPGs are generally bursting at the seems with large groups of morons trying to get to the highest possible level and get the best possible equipment in order to tell everyone else how great they are and how bad everyone else sucks. It's entertaining if you're a 12 year old male with macho insecurity but not so good if you're a working adult that just want's to hang out and kill a few really dumb AI monsters. And could someone please make a chat filter so I don't have to hear messages like "LVL 25 FLAMING HOMOMANCER LOOKING FOR GROUP!!!" or "SELLING +20 SPORK OF PURE EVIL 200000000 $TITANIUM$". Kinda ruins the "immersion" doesn't it?
I'm also not against all MMORPGS. I liked A Tale in the Desert and UO before AoS. And those of you that have read other posts by me know that I'm all limp and creamy over GW and Phantasy Star Online. However, I honestly think that $15 a month for EQ2 or WoW is absolutely laughable. They Might be worth $10 a month is the box price is deducted from the yearly fee. 5 monthes free and then $10 each additional month would be more than reasonable for those two games.
Alright, your stance that mmorpg's are simply to expensive, is a valid point, I disagree, but at least it's an attempt at a rational. The problem is ok, you think they're to expensive? Go look for free ones, play muds, etc.. but none of this validates or supports the idea that you should have the right to pirate them, which IS stealing, no two ways about it. I mean it seems to me that you're saying one of two things.
1. I hate mmorpg's except for the one you listed (btw ATITD is a great game, you should PAY for it) in which case, why are you here?
or
2. You like mmorpg's but simply refuse to pay for them. Which is like saying "I *love* watching movies, but I don't want to pay to get in." I mean you can't have your cake and eat it too.
So yeah, I'm glad you responded, and while "I AM AGAINST OVERCHARGING (GOUGING) PEOPLE FOR CHEAP MERCHANDISE!" is at least an attempt at an arguement, you seriously need some supporting evidence. Why is it price gouging? You've no idea how much it cost to run an mmo, or at least I doubt you do. I mean you basiclly made that statement.. and then flew off on the tangent of single player games.. which have *nothing* to do with the current topic.. I guess you're trying to say that singleplayer games are more entertaining and lack a monthly fee? Well fine, but the reason you pay the monthly fee is for use of the companies bandwith, to pay gm's, for continued support etc.. notice none of these fees is really appliciable to games like NWN.. which is still a fine game, if you like it that much, and hate paying fees, I suggest you play it.. and stop promoting pirating.
That said you're free to say whatever you want, it's the beauty of the internet, but just seriously, next time put some thought into what you're saying. There's nothing sadder then someone with baseless beliefs.
EDIT: great discussion at http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-10670 about the estimated cost of running an mmorpg. An excerpt
"Further, low subscription rates hurt the smaller developers. Meridian 59 is significantly cheaper that other games (only $10.95 per month instead of $15 like other large games) and doesn't charge for expansions. However, we make much, MUCH less money than a large company does and it is harder to maintain and expand the game on that much smaller of a budget. We mostly run M59 as a labor of love, though, so this isn't as big an issue for us. But it's unrealistic to expect an online RPG that is run on centralized servers with as much uptime as possible and that is expanded on a regular basis to be free or even significantly cheaper that current rates."
This game, which btw is a great game. Only charges $10.95/month and barely makes a profit, they don't have nearly the bandwith usage of games like WoW and EQ2. So yeah, is a monthly fee too expensive? I don't think so. Even if you do happen to find it to be expensive, realize that you're paying for a service, it's not like the bandwith and such are free for the company. So to reiterate, if you want to play for free, by all means find a free game, but don't pirate, it's just plain wrong.
Priston Tale is good mmorpg its free from lvl 1-39 pretty good graphics. go here www.eng.pristontale.com
My views on piracy are alot like my views on drug use. There is absolutely nothing you can do to stop people from using drugs so you just have to live with it. There's nothing you can do to stop freeloaders from using pirate servers, so you just have to live with it. I personally do not regular pirate servers. I have several friends that are in the UO freeshard community and I know quite alot about what they have to do in order to run those shards as well as how much it costs. As far as piracy is concerned, every person that I know in the UO freeshard community ACTUALLY PAID FOR THE BOX. They aren't using EA's servers so I can understand why they don't want to pay the monthly fee. I'd also like to point out that most UO and EQ pirate servers also run custom content. That is, content that isn't made by EA or SOE. So we've moved out of the realm of piracy and into an area that's more like the Quake / Unreal Tournament mod community. These people aren't using A companies bandwidth, they paid for the client and they aren't even using the content that came with the box. Actually they use re-scripted items and mobs and make their own custom maps, quests and background stories. With that in mind, where's the immorality that you speak of? They paid for the software, they own it and they should be allowed to alter to suite their needs. In the case of UO, it's perfectly legal so long as they use their own maps and scripts and not the land of Britania. If you don't believe me, read UO's EULA. In some cases, the "Pirate" server is running a dead game. I recently came across an Earth and Beyond server. Since EA pulled the plug on that game, who cares if they run a free server for it?
As for Meridian 59..... I remember when that game first came out. It's pricing model was a nightmare based on hourly usage. it was an alright game, but the pricing model killed it early. I'd imagine that the current game is held down less by pricing and more by a low player base. Dated graphics also don't help.
I ask for a simple game suggestion, and now you talking about piracy...
I can't blame people who play pirate games, mmo's *are* to expensive like every game, thats why iv gone free now. like final fantasy, $12.95 a month so in a year thats like $140 or something
personally I don't mind if a game charges a fee, and if its a good game like UO etc. but not crumy games: tibia, runescape, ashen empires it goes on..
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Yes! Now this is a post. It's clear, concise, and gives reasons to support his argument. Seriously my only qualm is the first sentence, but it's more of a personal qualm then any true criticism. I don't believe there's any problem in this world that can't be fixed, some are harder then others, but with enough commitment by enough people anything can be solved, even drug use, but I digress.
The argument for piracy is great! and I'm tempted to agree with just about everything there. Especially with UO Freeshard's using custom content. I wouldn't even call this pirating, it's more like, as you said, mmorpg modding. Nor are they using the companies bandwidth, so you're right, no reason to pay a fee. My only concern would be servers who are running "base" eq, or "base" uo. The way I see it that's theft of an artist's work.. that said even this I don't think is horribly bad. When you were advocating piracy I was thinking more like CC# generators, CD key Hacks, etc... granted I'm not even sure if this is possiable, but I'd imagine it is. So yeah, in conclusion, I agree, and wouldn't say that what your doing is even piracy, especially if the content was custom made. Great, great, great post!