Are they really banning people? has anyone on these boards been banned over there yet? Curious if the gamers will actually stay commited or accept a subscription + p2w model. I bet they accept it. sadly
I love how 1% of the population thinks what they're doing will impact anything.
Complain about performance issue brought on my incarna, (but make sure you unclick the load station environments box before you complain too hard) because that might've actually impacted you.
But complaining about buying mods and ships with aurum when you can all ready do that with PLEX?
Seriously unsubscribe and go away now, the game will be much better without you, and there's not enough of you to REALLY hurt eve's profitability.
This may not be the most mature thing to do, but it's pretty damn epic to see so many people come together and cause such mayhem.
Why is it not mature? It's as legitimate a way to protest as a sit-in or picket line... Are we all supposed to fly to Iceland and picket the CCP offices? People don't WANT to quit EVE, they don't WANT to see the game go down this road, they don't WANT the game to fail... so any calls to "vote with your wallet" aren't really an option.
We're on the same side mate, so just relax
I'm simply refering to the fact that some people are trying to be as disruptive as possible and spewing so much profanity in local that it's almost absurd. More civil protesting and less raging lynchmob is what I would like to see. But that's just me. I hope CCP is able to see this for what it is. If people didn't care so much about the game, they would just quietly unsubscribe and leave.
I'm a big ol' fluffy carewolf. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
I can't help wonder how many games would die to have so many active players?
Could be Perpetuums lucky month.
Not trying to push the game. Just a thought... I don't even play it.
Having been around for the missle nerf and the t20 and other stuff, It is a bit hard to tell if this will die down or not.
Lots of accounts claiming to of been canceled.
Thread seems to have slowed up alittle however....
I think it's safe to say that many EVE players will not want to play a game that charges real money for items that can change the course of a battle. It may not be right, but I think that's the way it is.
Seriously unsubscribe and go away now, the game will be much better without you, and there's not enough of you to REALLY hurt eve's profitability.
I already have, thanks.
If CCP continues down the long road of stupidity, I think you're going to be shocked with how many vets say adios. The EVE playerbase is unlike most of the mmo community. They are not as eager to settle and just accept things the way they are. People care about this game much more than what I have seen in any other mmo.
It's a shame but they could very well lose all of this over a trail of lies and absolutely terrible development decisions.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
I seriously find it funny how childishly and ignorantly people are acting about this.
This was all ready in the game indirectly, yet NOW you're freaking out?
Vets don't give a damn about $45 monocles, or even $5 scorpions; it doesn't impact the gameplay of other people in any substantial way.
If people start spending real money on ships and mods, I will be more than happy to bring a fleet out to blow it all up if they're in my alliance's territory.
This week has seen quite a controversy unfold. In almost the same instant as we deployed Incarna - which by the way is one of our more smooth and successful expansions, not to mention absolutely gorgeous - an internal newsletter with rather controversial topics addressed leaked out. To further compound the confusion there was a clear and rather large gap in virtual goods pricing expectation and reality with a large segment of the community. I‘m going to address both these issues right here.
Fearless
Fearless is one of our company values. It‘s also the name of an internal newsletter that has been designed and developed specifically to catalyze discussions on controversial topics. One of the biggest elephants in the room these days, not just for EVE but for the gaming industry as a whole, is virtual goods sales and microtransactions.
Therefore we dedicated an entire issue to exactly that topic. It‘s worth mentioning that the topic of the issue was "Greed is good?" as a way to ask a question that would then be debated back and forth and often exaggerated purposefully to draw contrasts and make points. The result of that is now widely available on the internet.
The opinions and views expressed in Fearless are just that; opinions and views. They are not CCP policy nor are they a reliable source of CCP views as a company. The employees who submitted articles to that newsletter did exactly what they were asked to do, write about theories and opinions from an exaggerated stand.
While it‘s perfectly fine to disagree and attack CCP over policies or actions we take, we think it‘s not cool how individuals that work here have been called out and dragged through the mud due to something they wrote in the internal company newsletter. Seriously, these people were doing their jobs and do not deserve the hate and shitstorm being pointed at them.
Pricing structure
People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don't need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don't need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are.
We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than what‘s in the store today. We hope you enjoy them and are as passionate about them as you are of the current items that are for sale.
I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having. We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site : http://mmodata.blogspot.be/ Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
This week has seen quite a controversy unfold. In almost the same instant as we deployed Incarna - which by the way is one of our more smooth and successful expansions, not to mention absolutely gorgeous - an internal newsletter with rather controversial topics addressed leaked out. To further compound the confusion there was a clear and rather large gap in virtual goods pricing expectation and reality with a large segment of the community. I‘m going to address both these issues right here.
Fearless
Fearless is one of our company values. It‘s also the name of an internal newsletter that has been designed and developed specifically to catalyze discussions on controversial topics. One of the biggest elephants in the room these days, not just for EVE but for the gaming industry as a whole, is virtual goods sales and microtransactions.
Therefore we dedicated an entire issue to exactly that topic. It‘s worth mentioning that the topic of the issue was "Greed is good?" as a way to ask a question that would then be debated back and forth and often exaggerated purposefully to draw contrasts and make points. The result of that is now widely available on the internet.
The opinions and views expressed in Fearless are just that; opinions and views. They are not CCP policy nor are they a reliable source of CCP views as a company. The employees who submitted articles to that newsletter did exactly what they were asked to do, write about theories and opinions from an exaggerated stand.
While it‘s perfectly fine to disagree and attack CCP over policies or actions we take, we think it‘s not cool how individuals that work here have been called out and dragged through the mud due to something they wrote in the internal company newsletter. Seriously, these people were doing their jobs and do not deserve the hate and shitstorm being pointed at them.
Pricing structure
People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don't need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don't need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are.
We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than what‘s in the store today. We hope you enjoy them and are as passionate about them as you are of the current items that are for sale.
I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having. We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.
Thanks,
Arnar Hrafn Gylfason
Senior Producer of EVE Online
WTF is going on over at CCP HQ.
This is it?
*facepalm*
Note how the most scary quotes from Fearless (which did in fact read like the board informing the rest of the employees) are debunked as opinion and discussion fodder in the first part of the letter yet supported and echoed in the latter part.
There has been no reaching out to the concerns voiced by the community whatsoever. Nothing about limiting the cash shop to just vanity items in particular.
I don't get why people get so upset that they unsubscribe but then continue to stick around and bitch about it. Learn to let go.
Perhaps, just perhaps, they loved and enjoyed the game for a very long time and are now hoping that the nightmare isn't true so that can continue to enjoy their internet spaceships after 'things get right again'. Also, just perhaps, they think that by voicing their discontent, CCP will take notice.
Can't blame 'em.
CCP has dropped like a rock from always being my most favorite developer to Blizzard level.
I don't get why people get so upset that they unsubscribe but then continue to stick around and bitch about it. Learn to let go.
Perhaps, just perhaps, they loved and enjoyed the game for a very long time and are now hoping that the nightmare isn't true so that can continue to enjoy their internet spaceships after 'things get right again'. Also, just perhaps, they think that by voicing their discontent, CCP will take notice.
Can't blame 'em.
CCP has dropped like a rock from always being my most favorite developer to Blizzard level.
It's a game though. Shit happens, get over it and move on.
I don't get why people get so upset that they unsubscribe but then continue to stick around and bitch about it. Learn to let go.
Perhaps, just perhaps, they loved and enjoyed the game for a very long time and are now hoping that the nightmare isn't true so that can continue to enjoy their internet spaceships after 'things get right again'. Also, just perhaps, they think that by voicing their discontent, CCP will take notice.
Can't blame 'em.
CCP has dropped like a rock from always being my most favorite developer to Blizzard level.
It's a game though. Shit happens, get over it and move on.
Perhaps this is there way of getting over it, besides who are WE to tell people what to do or how to act. If your not vested in EvE then it's none of your business.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I don't get why people get so upset that they unsubscribe but then continue to stick around and bitch about it. Learn to let go.
Perhaps, just perhaps, they loved and enjoyed the game for a very long time and are now hoping that the nightmare isn't true so that can continue to enjoy their internet spaceships after 'things get right again'. Also, just perhaps, they think that by voicing their discontent, CCP will take notice.
Can't blame 'em.
CCP has dropped like a rock from always being my most favorite developer to Blizzard level.
It's a game though. Shit happens, get over it and move on.
Perhaps this is there way of getting over it, besides who are WE to tell people what to do or how to act. If your not vested in EvE then it's none of your business.
Been vested since beta. First corp was Endless Corp and now I run my own.
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site : http://mmodata.blogspot.be/ Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
It's nice to see that the EVE community isn't as prepared to quickly bend over and take some ludicrous change as most of the mmo community seems to be.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
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Are they really banning people? has anyone on these boards been banned over there yet? Curious if the gamers will actually stay commited or accept a subscription + p2w model. I bet they accept it. sadly
Really disapointing move by CCP :-(
Kinda the company to which most people (community wise) were looking up are disapointed.
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If CCP ignores the issue the gamers have then the game will dwindle away.
I can't help wonder how many games would die to have so many active players?
In Amarr since I can't get into Jita, enjoying the disco with 1500 other souls. In true EVe spirit I'm wishing for smartbombing and loot.
NERF THE 70$ MONOCLE!
I love how 1% of the population thinks what they're doing will impact anything.
Complain about performance issue brought on my incarna, (but make sure you unclick the load station environments box before you complain too hard) because that might've actually impacted you.
But complaining about buying mods and ships with aurum when you can all ready do that with PLEX?
Seriously unsubscribe and go away now, the game will be much better without you, and there's not enough of you to REALLY hurt eve's profitability.
We're on the same side mate, so just relax
I'm simply refering to the fact that some people are trying to be as disruptive as possible and spewing so much profanity in local that it's almost absurd. More civil protesting and less raging lynchmob is what I would like to see. But that's just me. I hope CCP is able to see this for what it is. If people didn't care so much about the game, they would just quietly unsubscribe and leave.
I'm a big ol' fluffy carewolf. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Could be Perpetuums lucky month.
Not trying to push the game. Just a thought... I don't even play it.
Having been around for the missle nerf and the t20 and other stuff, It is a bit hard to tell if this will die down or not.
Lots of accounts claiming to of been canceled.
Thread seems to have slowed up alittle however....
I think it's safe to say that many EVE players will not want to play a game that charges real money for items that can change the course of a battle. It may not be right, but I think that's the way it is.
I already have, thanks.
If CCP continues down the long road of stupidity, I think you're going to be shocked with how many vets say adios. The EVE playerbase is unlike most of the mmo community. They are not as eager to settle and just accept things the way they are. People care about this game much more than what I have seen in any other mmo.
It's a shame but they could very well lose all of this over a trail of lies and absolutely terrible development decisions.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
I seriously find it funny how childishly and ignorantly people are acting about this.
This was all ready in the game indirectly, yet NOW you're freaking out?
Vets don't give a damn about $45 monocles, or even $5 scorpions; it doesn't impact the gameplay of other people in any substantial way.
If people start spending real money on ships and mods, I will be more than happy to bring a fleet out to blow it all up if they're in my alliance's territory.
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=932
Dear concerned citizens of New Eden
This week has seen quite a controversy unfold. In almost the same instant as we deployed Incarna - which by the way is one of our more smooth and successful expansions, not to mention absolutely gorgeous - an internal newsletter with rather controversial topics addressed leaked out. To further compound the confusion there was a clear and rather large gap in virtual goods pricing expectation and reality with a large segment of the community. I‘m going to address both these issues right here.
Fearless
Fearless is one of our company values. It‘s also the name of an internal newsletter that has been designed and developed specifically to catalyze discussions on controversial topics. One of the biggest elephants in the room these days, not just for EVE but for the gaming industry as a whole, is virtual goods sales and microtransactions.
Therefore we dedicated an entire issue to exactly that topic. It‘s worth mentioning that the topic of the issue was "Greed is good?" as a way to ask a question that would then be debated back and forth and often exaggerated purposefully to draw contrasts and make points. The result of that is now widely available on the internet.
The opinions and views expressed in Fearless are just that; opinions and views. They are not CCP policy nor are they a reliable source of CCP views as a company. The employees who submitted articles to that newsletter did exactly what they were asked to do, write about theories and opinions from an exaggerated stand.
While it‘s perfectly fine to disagree and attack CCP over policies or actions we take, we think it‘s not cool how individuals that work here have been called out and dragged through the mud due to something they wrote in the internal company newsletter. Seriously, these people were doing their jobs and do not deserve the hate and shitstorm being pointed at them.
Pricing structure
People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don't need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don't need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are.
We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than what‘s in the store today. We hope you enjoy them and are as passionate about them as you are of the current items that are for sale.
I hope I‘ve addressed your concerns and cleared up a lot of the issues you‘re having. We‘ll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.
Thanks,
Arnar Hrafn Gylfason
Senior Producer of EVE Online
WTF is going on over at CCP HQ.
I don't get why people get so upset that they unsubscribe but then continue to stick around and bitch about it. Learn to let go.
For some more info :
http://mmodata.blogspot.com/2011/06/riots-in-eve-against-microtransactions.html
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site :
http://mmodata.blogspot.be/
Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
This is it?
*facepalm*
Note how the most scary quotes from Fearless (which did in fact read like the board informing the rest of the employees) are debunked as opinion and discussion fodder in the first part of the letter yet supported and echoed in the latter part.
There has been no reaching out to the concerns voiced by the community whatsoever. Nothing about limiting the cash shop to just vanity items in particular.
V_V
My brand new bloggity blog.
Perhaps, just perhaps, they loved and enjoyed the game for a very long time and are now hoping that the nightmare isn't true so that can continue to enjoy their internet spaceships after 'things get right again'. Also, just perhaps, they think that by voicing their discontent, CCP will take notice.
Can't blame 'em.
CCP has dropped like a rock from always being my most favorite developer to Blizzard level.
My brand new bloggity blog.
It's how you get the message out that it's unacceptable.It's a game though. Shit happens, get over it and move on.
Perhaps this is there way of getting over it, besides who are WE to tell people what to do or how to act. If your not vested in EvE then it's none of your business.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Been vested since beta. First corp was Endless Corp and now I run my own.
Some updates on the EVE protest :
http://mmodata.blogspot.com/2011/06/riots-in-eve-against-microtransactions.html
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site :
http://mmodata.blogspot.be/
Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
LOL, this is great stuff. Very entertaining
It's nice to see that the EVE community isn't as prepared to quickly bend over and take some ludicrous change as most of the mmo community seems to be.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Tell me. how do these changes affect you?