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Will a Asus G74SX (BestBuy version) be able to handle GW2?
GreenJustice
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in Guild Wars 2
Will a Asus G74SX (BestBuy version) be able to handle Guild Wars 2 on medium to high with a good Framerate? I heard the BestBuy version is gimped, but I'm on a budget. BestBuy version is only $1,200.
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System specs aren't out but ArenaNet have said that they want GW2 to be able to run on mid-range computers.
What about a gtx260 1.8g with i7 core i cun run aoc on max what bout gw2
I know system requirements isn't out yet, but baseing on the Asus G74SX do you think it'll be good enough to run GW2 on medium to high?
O dont worry you will sir i just did some research on this product nothing to worry
Awesome, I can't wait to get my hand on them.
heyo..
as mentioned above.. specs not out yet. so as a consideration to you, the correct answer is to not give one until the specs are known, as they can be misleading.
with that..
the asus g74sx (bbk7) is a great machine for the price.. especially for best buy. that gun should have no issues running metro 2033 or crysis on med/high. those two games are used often as BM's. And with that there simply is no mmo that runs to those standards currently aside from maybe AoC on ultra, which this system would easily handle.
so i'll put it this way.. IF it were me buying that lappy for GW2.. I would have no worries what so ever that it could handle anything GW2 could afford much less any game in the next couple of years..ie. Rage, BF3, Diablo 3 (lol i know wishfull thinking).. ect. on at least Med/high if not ultra, especially the low fat mmo's.
i think your fine. whats more important is Asus RMA and Best buy warranty to back you up just incase.. and yes. purchase the add on warranty with BB.
just my opinion
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If you're buying it for Guild Wars 2, then maybe you should wait for Guild Wars 2 to be near launch? Whatever you buy today might be thoroughly obsolete by the time Guild Wars 2 launches, especially if Southern Islands and Ivy Bridge are out by then.
That's surprisingly good specs on that laptop for $1200 and Best Buy. Best Buy will likely still find some way to screw it up. The glaring problem, really, is Asus' bizarre aversion to putting Sandy Bridge and Juniper in the same laptop. You can get a Clarskfield+Juniper laptop from Asus, or Sandy Bridge+GF116, but no Sandy Bridge+Juniper. That is, no hardware configurations that would be sensible to actually buy if there weren't a giant hole in the market, as Alienware and Hewlett-Packard are the only companies to offer Sandy Bridge+Juniper gaming laptops, and neither are priced aggressively because, well, it's their corporate policies not to price things aggressively.
There're some lower specs on the Bestbuy version from what I've heard.
Weak desktop - Able to run on mid-low settings.
Medium desktop - Able to run on mid-high settings.
Strong desktop - Able to run on very high settings.
Weak laptop - Able to run on very low settings if not at all.
Medium desktop - Able to run on low-mid settings.
Strong desktop - Able to run on mid settings.
No way! You will need quad SLI and even then it probably will crash
If it will crash, then what gaming laptops would be great right now, for $1000-$1500. Maybe a Alienware M14x with confirguration to $1500.
I hang around quite a lot in the Guild Wars 2 Guru - Technical Support section, and it seems that the computers at GamesCom had 4GB Ram, GTX 460s and intel i5-750s and ran Guild Wars 2 at maximum settings with 4XAA at 1920x1080.
I recommend you take a look at the Grand Royal Unified GW2 Requirements Discussion Thread.
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I have HD6850 OC [equivalent to gtx460 oc] i5-760 and 4gb ram
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I can say the following:
i am 100% sure that i will be able to run the game at 1920x1200, 16 AF and 8-16 AA [normal, not uber] with 40+ FPS.
Reason? I can run Age of Conan on Dx10 with absolutely everything maxed, all distances, af 16 aa 16 blur and every single other piece. We all know AoC coding sucks so if i can run it with such settings at 40-60 fps then im pretty sure everyone with similiar PC as mine will be able to run the game on high-to-max settings. Everyone with weaker PC will most likely be able to run it at medium settings np.
GW2 does not need superb graphics, it needs to have character; this "something" which it does have.
How do you think my laptop will do?
Intel Core duo T9300 2.5 GHz
Nvidia 8600M GT 1.5 GB
3GB Ram
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I expect low. But I really suggest you check out the Technical Support section of GW2Guru, they seem to have most of the technical information about GW2 available.
Age of Conan had alot of Graphic-code improvements since the release, to guarantee a smooth gameplay.
But you guys forgot, that GW2 uses an enchanted Engine version of GW 1. So everyone who could play GW 1 with 60fps at 1920x1200, should be able at least to play GW 2 with the same resolution but maybe with 40fps, wich is more than enough.
An Alienware M14x is not a gaming laptop. Don't let Alienware's marketing department convince you otherwise. Well, it will have the power consumption, overheating, and price tag of a gaming laptop, but not the actual gaming performance to justify those.
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I think Mazut was partially kidding about the laptop crashing. But only partially. Gaming laptops release too much heat into too little space, which tends to cause overheating problems. Even if the hardware doesn't overheat, your hands might if you touch the keyboard or touchpad while gaming, or worse, set the laptop on your lap. That's a problem intrinsic to the form factor, so if you don't like it, get a desktop.
You've really got three options. One is to get a gaming desktop instead of a gaming laptop. Unless you absolutely need a gaming laptop for some reason, this is the correct option. Even if you need a gaming machine and also need a laptop, it doesn't follow that you need a gaming laptop. Most people who think they need a gaming laptop would be better off with both a gaming desktop and a non-gaming laptop, as that will get you better performance for a lower total price tag.
The second option would be to simply get a gaming laptop like you think you want, and accept that it's not going to be a very good machine. It will get hot, it will get noisy, the battery won't last long, it will be fragile, you won't be able to fix it when it breaks, games won't run at all without the laptop plugged in to an external power source, and the form factor will make it awkward to play games on. Get a different $1000+ gaming laptop and you'll still have all of those problems. Games will run decently well, though performance won't be in the same league as a gaming desktop.
The third option is to go with a Llano A8-3510MX or A8-3530MX APU. Hewlett-Packard seems to be the only one selling that just yet, in their dv6z quad edition series. That goes for $735 appropriately configured as a budget gaming machine. You'll use the integrated graphics, and get about 1/3 of the graphical performance of the Asus laptop that you're looking at. But because it uses integrated graphics, it's much lower power, so it won't get unduly hot or noisy, you'll be able to play games on the battery (and still have the battery last for a couple of hours), and the battery will last several hours when you're not playing games. HP's configurator is goofy, so if you wait a month, you'll likely be able to get something equivalent for $100 cheaper, too.
The downside of a Llano system is that the integrated graphics mean that, while games will run smoothly, you'll have to turn graphical settings down quite a ways. Llano integrated graphics are an entirely different class of integrated graphics from what you're used to, though, and not the traditional "don't try to play games on this" variety. The A8-3510MX APU has 400 shaders. No other integrated graphics ever made before Llano had more than 80.
Do note that a GeForce GTX 460 and a GeForce GTX 460M are not at all similar, in spite of the names. Loosely, if you take the GPU in a GTX 460 and cut it in half, then you have the GPU in a GTX 460M. That's not entirely true, but it's a decent approximation.
Guild Wars 1 runs smoothly at max settings on a Zacate E-350 based netbook. That's right, a netbook, with integrated graphics. And at max settings, no less, though it does get choppy in the really overcrowded towns. I'd expect that Guild Wars 2 will run smoothly on some fairly low end hardware, too, though no longer at max settings.
Well, that's alright, doesn't really matter. I'm getting a new gaming desktop closer to release anyway
Thanks
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Yeah but my old comp 2gb 8800gt [then 8800gts and 9800gt] and core2duo 1,86 e6320 had conan on med-high at ~40 fps.
And even after improvements there are still plenty of freezes and loadups and tbh i expect ANet to code better than failcom.
I'm content i'll be able to run it at high settings and im more than happy that gamescom rig was just tiny bit worse than my own [6 months old now].
At least i know i wont need to change PC for 4-5 years since i expect myself playing mostly GW2 with few odd hours into single player games.
I'm running an Alienware MX17 with duo P8600 @ 2.4 GHZ 4 gig memory, Nvidia 260M and I run FFXIV decently, I ran AOC decently (not on highest settings), I ran Rift Beta decently on high (not highest), I run LOTRO decently on high (not ultra high).
I also run Dragon Age Origins and DA2 well on high settings.
I don't know what requirements GW2 will have but the graphics that I've seen seem comparible to AOC, Rift, and maybe a little bit to Aion (which I also ran fine on high).
That Asus has a Nvidia 560M which seems to be twice as nice as my card... I would think you'd have no problems running any game currently out or coming out shortly on that machine. But I'm no expert on the subject.
As for the overheating, yes this machine is hot damn near all the time but if the specs on that asus are true, I might be tempted to get that machine in the future as well, with the "Blow it out the Rear" cooling system they've come up with, it's sure to run a lot less hot than this Alienware.... Let's just say you can easily burn you hands on the sides and bottom of this machine I have.
Alienware doesn't make it run any faster or slower. It's the hardware inside that matters. And you haven't said what hardware you have, even if you think you have. There are two different cards branded as a 260M by Nvidia: the GeForce GTS 260M and the GeForce GTX 260M. They're not merely different, but completely unrelated. DIfferent architectures, different process nodes, different feature sets (including diferent DirectX version compatibility), and so forth. And they're both different architectures and process nodes from the desktop GeForce GTX 260. Yes, Nvidia does that intentionally, to confuse you.
A GeForce GTX 560M will usually outperform a GeForce GTX 260M by a pretty good margin, but not always, as the latter has far superior texture performance. It's not double the performance, though. Maybe 50% faster or so on average. A GeForce GTX 560M is basically an underclocked GeForce GTX 550 Ti, and the underclocking means its performance will typically trail a GeForce GTS 450, Radeon HD 5850, GeForce 9800 GTX+, or Radeon HD 4850.
A GeForce GTX 560M will tend to run hotter than a GeForce GTX 260M, and will use nearly double the power of a GeForce GTS 260M. Nvidia didn't get the performance per watt improvements that they should have gotten from moving to a 40 nm process node, so they compensate for it by just letting their cards run hotter rather than giving up performance. That's why you're far better off getting an AMD card this generation in a gaming laptop if you can. The problem is that on a $1200 budget, you're looking at a gaping hole in the market where the products that should exist (Sandy Bridge+Juniper, appropriately configured and aggressively priced) simply don't, because no laptop vendor can be bothered to build it.
I'm just going to wait and see what the specs are for GW2. If I don't have to upgrade anything to run it at max I will be happy. I'd rather not waste money if I don't have to. You should probably do the same if you're only upgrading for GW2. If not then my guess is that it will run perfectly fine on that machine. I'm pretty sure thats more power than you need for this game.
Quizzical, by chance do you know when AMDs Bulldozer CPUs are expected to come out? Quite some people believe that the release of those CPUs will cause quite some drops in hardware prices.
Ah, okay, so my laptop has the GTX 260M card.... And you're saying the GTX 560M is only half again as powerful as this one????