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apwhitelaw
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Alright I was looking at that and it seemed cool and whatever but it wasn't coming out for a while so i just kinda ignored it for now and started looking for something else. But today I was really bored and have been looking for a game and I saw that again, so I decided to check the release date.
When in the hell was the release date in 2010? For some reason I always thought it was like end of 2011 or something.
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It released october ish or november ish. 2011 was the release date for consoles but its been cancelled indefinitely.
Umm...I hated the controls for it. Like..I HATED it so much.
Oh and no chocobos. How can they make a FF game with no access to chocobos?????
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It's already out.
I'm telling you now, don't play this game.
It's terribly boring, there is nothing to do.
Its like they blended FFXI and MMORPG coponents then slapped the final fantasy label on it and called it a game.
It's pretty much F2P right now but once it launches for the PS3 that might change. The developer are drawing up plans to create major overhauls for the game's core mechanics but so far all they've put out is a few patches. You can probably acquire the game for bargain bin prices at most places if you really want to try it out.
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Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--LOYdzogDA
It isn't that bad, it's even enjoyable, it just needs more time to really shine.
I'd compare this to what happenes to FFXI when it was releases in Japan
Give it "Time to shine" ??
If you gave this game all the time in the world, it will never be enjoyable.
If you found this game enjoyable, you simply have not been playing long enough (and that shouldn't exceed more than 10 minutes, unless you've got abnormally high tolerance).
- Bad and extremely boring gameplay
- Player-run economy is a mess
- horrible interface
- Copy-paste quests with no diologue
- Goes out of its way to make you lost and not know where to go next
Don't take my word for it though, watch this review by Gamespot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--LOYdzogDA
I wasn't even going to bother but this thread is pretty devoid of any actual information about the game.
Gamespot review was from release a year ago and since then they have replaced the development team. Not one thing you listed there though is something they haven't touched on addressing in upcoming patches. I don't know where you get the idea that things are set in stone and cannot be fixed.
-Some interfaces changes have been made already.
-Market wards have been overhauled since launch and are no longer a real hinderence to the economy.
-1.18 (July 21st) will make significant changes to combat and gameplay in general. Put in new content in the forms of instances, and the start of grand company missions.
-Copy paste quests must refer to guildleves which are not quests and which are no longer a focus of the game as of 1.18. They are being replaced as a leveling mechanism by more quests, missions, and party areas (with xp chains) and will remain mainly as a casual solo activity that can be done in a very short amount of time.
They are continuing to work on changes to interface, linkshell management, party search, emnity changes (1.18), crafting, tutorials, and all the other things they have admitted should have been present at launch but were held back due to problems with the engine. As a result of the problems of the game they haven't charged anyone a subscription fee, and say they won't until the game is in acceptable state (to them).
Then they are also adding in a job system, housing, gardening, materia system, alternate forms of travel (airship/chocobo's), chocobo raising/fighting/etc., and a re-design of all current zones before implementing the remain half of zones within Eorzea itself (just one continent) just to mention a few upcoming additions they have announced so far.
So I'll take your prophesying with a grain of salt, I think they seem more than capable of fixing the game to the enjoyment of its fans.
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Here's a thought: If you hate the game so much, stop posting in its forums. It's pretty pathetic to jump into another community's boards and start throwing out insults that there must be something wrong with people if they take enjoyment over a video game. Go troll somewhere else.
Recently went back and not much has changed. I will go back again after the major update but i hardly doubt that devs can patch FUN in FFXIV. It will always be remembered as the most disappointing MMO title by SE.
Heso o kamedomo oyobanu -- Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
Murug I think everyone will agree that SE is definitely trying to fix the game. The main issue is, when it was released last year it was pretty over whelmingly terrible, thats not really up for debate, SE has all but admitted that themselves and the fact that they havent charged a sub fee in almost a year backs that up.
The real issue is, how far has the game come in a year of basically extended paid beta? The answer is not really far.
Yes the market wards have been changed, but the change is very similar to putting a bandaid on a spurting artery. You still have market wards, you still have to physically go to the vendor, and selling your items is still an extremely time consuming pain in the ass.
Yes, it is light years better than it was back at launch, but it still is terrible by most gamers standards and either shows SE is to stubborn to truely fix the issue or they are simply incompetent. They wanted originally to force player shops and trades and a community like setting, I get that. The old days of EQ1 with GFay and Commons tunnel were kind of cool. Unfortunately we no longer live in those days. The internet was new, folks hadnt quite experienced true easy convenience and now that we've seen what is possible, we dont want to go backwards, we want to stay where we are or better yet go forwards.
If SE wants to make some kind of GFay or Commons type experience then thats fine, but they need to do so in such a way that doesnt strangle crafters and harvestors or makes the average joe trying to empty his bags for profit after a long hunt not spend 3 hours sorting, pricing, setting up a retainer and then switching wards and doing it all over again. Thats not a community, thats not fun, its a frustrating pain in the ass.
Lets talk content.
At launch there was 0 content. You had 16 leve quests per 36 hours and that was it. There werent even enough concentrated spawns for folks to really grind at with out fighting like a bunch of hoodlums over the two spawns in a cave. As of now, that hasnt really changed. As far as I know as of today the timer on leves is still 36 hours, anima regen is still a bitch, and there are still no real dungeon or group experiences.
I understand thats supposed to change next week... but I've heard talk of one instance and one line of quests for 4 different factions. If so, unless that dungeon scales based on level its not going to solve the problem, and even if it does, folks are going to eat that dungeon up like a starving ethiopian and then want more... and be left with just that one dungeon.
This is the best SE has done in a year, and while its nice that they are still making progress its so slow and the updates so minor that I dont really see FFXIV being turned around anytime soon. Its a damn shame too cause the game looks great and some of the core ideas arent too bad... just the implementation is a train wreck.
s-e might have changed the team but this work looks like a dog trying to grab its tail but the tail was cut lol!
hope the new team can do goods tho!
IMO, it's a great game. My only problem is that SE's integrity has been damaged by caving in to the cries of too many spoiled players. Example, instead of getting sweet content updates, we are getting auto-attack... like every other MMO.
I've enjoyed both the game and the community more than any MMO in a while. Some things to note though.
The game will not hold your hand, you have to figure things out on your own.
There is no PvP (and there shouldn't be in an FF ip)
You can't jump (for some reason, this is a problem? Yet another issue SE is going to "fix" instead of doing important things because of a whiny playbase)
Content is great up until endgame, then there's not much going on (because SE decided to cave to ridiculous player demands and put off new content updates). It does take a while to get there though.
There are still no mounts, but you can teleport back to camps you've already visited.
It's pretty frustrating because I see the game being held back. Everyone screams about WoW clones, then they get an innovative game and demand it become more like said WoW. The developers, instead of sticking to their guns and standing behind the decisions they made, have begun the process of conformity.
People in the game don't even realize most of it's features exist because they don't bother doing any research or figuring anything out. Example, in this game, you can form SP parties just like FFXI. There are base (Skill Point) modifiers on various types of mobs. The key is to seek out the high-SP mobs, and form a camp there. My LS has spent all night grinding away at awesome SP spots, and nobody has even been there. Then we return to camp and there are 20+ people standing around, doing nothing, complaining that there is nothing to do. Then, those same people come to forums and spread the BS because they haven't taken 5 minutes to research the mechanics of the game - touting that they "shouldn't have to." It's an FF ip... you're gonna have to do some research. Period. You should know that going in.
Bad economy has been fixed, the Market Wards serve their purpose and work fine. They are searchable by catagory, just like the FFXI AH. People still whine that they have to "zone" to get to their item.. Big deal. I like the innovation.
Complaining about prices from crafters is an easy fix. Craft yourself. Also, you can literally make over a million gil in a couple of days, I really don't get why people complain about that. It's like everyone just plays wrong - I can't figure it out.
Leves are now going to be solo content and not the major basis of leveling (which they kind of already were, just nobody seemed to realize it - another move by SE to try to "spell it out" for the lazy players).
Combat was innovative, but will soon be cookie cutter auto-attack. People seem to think I'm some kind of "fanyboy" because I'm happy with the game. No - it's just that when I say I want something different, I actually mean it. I don't beg for change and then say.. "Oh wait... not like this though... go back to the way it is in other games."
It has a great story that no one plays. They don't allow for the build up and payoff. they get two or three quests in, where the game is still giving you character development, and cry "boring."
Overall, if you are willing to put in the time, the game is awesome and very fulfilling. It's not for everyone.
I left 2-4 months after the release but have been closely following the news. The game isn't half as bad as most naysayers are claiming it to be. It's simply not yet finished, that's pretty much about it.
In my eyes, it has great potential and and one of the strongest atmospheres that simply get you in and make you want to run around and explore for no reason. No other game (but FFXI) has such deep fishing as FFXIV, for example. It has high roleplaying value as well, afaik, roleplaying guilds and events are still alive on Besaid.
I am planning to come back when they invent chocobos (running everywhere isn't my thing
), unless either SW:TOR or GW2 are gonna turn out good (something tells me they won't).
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Yeah my boxer does that. Hours of entertainment for the both of us.
SE obviously hasn't given up on this game, but it's closing in on a year and they don't have much to show for it. They're taking way too long to patch this game and get it in an acceptable state. Rift has been out for three or four months and they're working on their 4th content patch. I realize that Rift was also a solid game at launch, but really... a year, and we have one instance, some nebulous idea of grand companies, some UI improvements, and auto-attack. At this rate, it will be another year before the game is palatable for anyone besides the people who have played since launch.
I still check up on this game becaused I wanted it to succeed, but at this point it's kind of hard to care.
If the choice is either FFXIV or "other games," which I take to mean what others have referred to as "WoW clones," then I absolutely choose WoW clones. But I'm pretty sure those aren't the only two options.
Eh? SE's integrity was damaged the day they released FFXIV in the state it was. Sorry but what you said is ridiculous. If FFXIV was such a great runaway hit in its original state SE wouldn't fire Tanaka and hire new team to make radical changes to the game. It is amazing you have galls to blame it on 'spoiled' players.
Heso o kamedomo oyobanu -- Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
See highlight. That means "In My opinion."
Liked the game from the get-go. Had it's issues, but no where near the disaster people claim. And, if you go on to read the post, I state why I feel that way.
Instead of getting what the games needed, ie - more content - we get the demands of the whiners met, ie - auto attack and frickin' jump.
I have serious issues with play online. FFXI was the biggest waste of money I ever spent. I never even played the game, after 5 days of trying to log in and on the phone with SE I said screw it.
I cant imagine FFXIV
To the caterpillar it is the end of the world, to the master, it is a butterfly.
See highlight. That means "In My opinion."
Liked the game from the get-go. Had it's issues, but no where near the disaster people claim. And, if you go on to read the post, I state why I feel that way.
Instead of getting what the games needed, ie - more content - we get the demands of the whiners met, ie - auto attack and frickin' jump.
No i read it and that is the sad part because people get away with lot of ridiculous statement by inserting IMO in start or the end. Again if it wasn't such a disaster
Tanaka wouldn't be removed, game wouldn't go free on monthly basis for indefinite time, console version wouldn't be cancelled and new dev team wouldn't be trying to make drastic changes to game design and philosophy.
Heso o kamedomo oyobanu -- Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
FFXIV doesnt use the playonline launcher.
i wont give those pieces of crap who deal with the online community anymore of my money i paid 80$ for that stupid special edition and i played for 1 week and they banned me while i was at work. I called SE and they said they dont deal with the GM's directly i would i have to get in the game to message them why i cant login. But how do you talk to a GM without being able to login to the game u ask. Well you cant after trying this multiple times i finally got through with someone on SE and they said i was spamming some kind of buy my gold crap. So he said it was a warning next time will be permanately banned. I was like i dont know what your talking about but i dont care just let me play the damn game i spent 80$ on so he said your account is active as of now so login and talk to a gm. I tried logging in same answer cannot login due to suspended account i checked my email it said as of 10am i was reactivated 1001am another email came through and it said i was banned for the same reason. So i will never give this company money for an online game again. Dont buy it because it sucks which it is pretty boring dont buy it because they dont know how to deal with customers.
Thanks for taking the time to actually prove me wrong rather than initially label me a troll and rage all over the place. :]
I'll humbly accept defeat on the topic of "Is FFXIV currently a good game"
Good job white knighting a game, I suppose.
I was simply trying to prevent OP from buying a game he probably wouldn't like, not sure how that relates to "Trolling" as I'm not trying to grief or get ANYONE mad.
Also, I can "jump" into any board I want, thanks. No one owns this board and I don't care how big the community is that has self-acclaimed it, BRO! :]