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EVE Video - why you should play EVE!
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im downloading it... yeah ive played it but all i did was mine a bit (10 mins) and then mostly did missions.....
so i neevr saw the combat side.... the game is really nice and stuff.... i just dont see myself paying to play
Main character in Pure Pwnage, Jeremy as himself and Teh Pwnerer...
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Yes it does play like that lol that was a real time fraps from one of my corp members. That is exactly what you see when in combat and exactly at that speed. You might notice that in the 2nd part where the big fleet battle took place that he had effects off which means you didnt get to see any of the lasers shooting but in large fleet combat due to lag you normally turn off effects.
Part of what makes this video so good to me is that its a totally accurate representation of what you can expect in EVE.
Whats funny is there were about 4 people on each side of the battle trying to fraps it but everyone but Kraph got killed LOL. It was total carnage!
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Pretty cool video, its too bad the effects were missing. It was a little hard to get a sense of the action with it zoomed out so only the indicators were visible...
Ive played the trial 2 times and ive loved it each time, so now that ive got more free time (see: summer) ill have to give a P2P shot for awhile, join a crop and get in on some PVP.
How long would you say it takes to get a decent ship (assuming you join a suitable corp) and learn the skills necessary to be efficient in PVP? Cause thats what ive been really missing when I played is combat.
I played eve too.. for about 3 months.
I never seen any BIG battles, but what the difference in combat between Eve and WoW?
Oh Oh...
/rant
In eve you press attack... same in WoW
You use special attacks in Eve... same in WoW
Your ship stats increase as you can afford/equip better ships..
You armor stats increase as you can afford/equip better armor...
Yawn....... Point click and hope.. that's the way MMO combat works.. if you try to run the Mobs/Rats/Orcs/drawfs will chase you.. if you attack something you shouldn't, then you die.
and so on and so on.. Eve combat works the same way as everything else. It just LOOKS different.
What's the hotkey for attack in WoW? in AO it's 'Q'.. in eve it's '1'.. healing yourself in eve can be done, it still takes a recharge.. ... ...
Am i making sense? or am i just tired of 'target enemy'... commence attack... hope i hit him more than he hits me..
...
/end rant
Actually combat in EVE is so strategic its amazing. To say that you just press attack is a total misunderstanding of whats happening. It takes a skilled fleet commander to organize a proper fleet and engage tactics that will win a fight. You can tell in the video that we had the better fleet commander. We were heavily outnumbered. The red guys were the enemy we were the purple and blue. We inflicted equal losses while heavily outgunned. This is primarily due to the skill of both the fleet commander and individual pilots. The video makes it all look kinda slow because theres no effects on but if you saw it with effects and were actually there to experience it goes sooo fast.. that battle lasted 30 minutes but to me it felt like it went by in 5 minutes LOL.
I compare massive fleet battles in EVE to a game of chess. Pieces move here pieces move there. It's as much about strength as it is understanding your enemy and knowing the limits of your own abilities.
Also i gotta add that somehow the guy that was capturing the footage never had to warp out from damage until near the end. I had to warp out 4 times and there were mini engagements happening at planets where people would warp off and run into enemies that had to warp off lol it's just soooo fun.
Make a difference!
I've been playing for 7 months and i'm only just now getting the skills to really be a presence in a fleet battle. As far as getting skills to pvp it doesnt take long.. maybe 3 or 4 months. The first part of the video was a frigate op. Frigates take much less training time than battleships and as you can see they can be quite deadly fun
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Nice VID, glad to see someone at IRON got off thier kiesters and made one ......
Great choice of music! Good mix of new and old
I love seeing the crime warning in the vid...funny
The AFG-NB battle was nice to watch also, but I think the vid is way too long if it was broken down some it would be nice for those without T3 lines into thier house.
Frigs are perhaps the most fun to fight with and seem to always be making kills in the big battles because everyone fixates on the battleships and cruisers.
Witty saying to amuse you goes here.
Been playing eve since sept 2003 and have to say its alot more than pushing buttons! Best PVP in any game!
You'd see big battles if you were in a corp that were at war :P
Sooo much thinking you have to put into the game
The music that was put with that video is enough to convince people not to play the game.
Yeah i didnt really care for the music lol
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It started out nice, never heard that version of "Black Betty" ......
At least it wasn't the same old industrial/grunge/alternative music that everyone uses
Witty saying to amuse you goes here.
When i played it I didn't really like it..I don't know why but it didn't feel like I was playing a game. It felt more like i was doing a job or something...I didn't really get to try the combat though, i might try it again later.
Actually combat in EVE is so strategic its amazing. To say that you just press attack is a total misunderstanding of whats happening. It takes a skilled fleet commander to organize a proper fleet and engage tactics that will win a fight. You can tell in the video that we had the better fleet commander. We were heavily outnumbered. The red guys were the enemy we were the purple and blue. We inflicted equal losses while heavily outgunned. This is primarily due to the skill of both the fleet commander and individual pilots. The video makes it all look kinda slow because theres no effects on but if you saw it with effects and were actually there to experience it goes sooo fast.. that battle lasted 30 minutes but to me it felt like it went by in 5 minutes LOL.
I compare massive fleet battles in EVE to a game of chess. Pieces move here pieces move there. It's as much about strength as it is understanding your enemy and knowing the limits of your own abilities.
Also i gotta add that somehow the guy that was capturing the footage never had to warp out from damage until near the end. I had to warp out 4 times and there were mini engagements happening at planets where people would warp off and run into enemies that had to warp off lol it's just soooo fun.
I do agree Eve is a good game, but most large scale combat in Eve is ether 2:1 or more before people will engage, or sniping so far from gate, that most "normal" setups can not fight back. I love the game, its the players that annoy me. I've had so many people run from me, just because I had a set-up that could return fire to them. Game was really too boring for me most of the time. Too many people in Eve are afraid to go into combat with equal numbers. So sadly, I went to games where the majority of people will stand and fight.
Awesome vid, gunna d/l it and play again
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Oh my got!!!
i neber see a graphic of this before,
i neber p2p any game before, but this game i must!
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GOD that movie was boooring, dots flying around etc i want to see more action! zoomed in please!
I'm not an EVE-hater in fact i like EVE Online have been playing it for 2 months and im now taking a break
Banzai!
Played EvE Online for several months shortly after it released, but the game was so buggy back then and had so many critical design flaws, that I had to quit. Also, having played back in the early days and knowing how drastically the game was nerfed once in retail, which gave early players a huge economic advantage that new players can't overcome, I don't see myself ever trying it again.
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I will never understand why the EVE crowd feels the need to tell everyone to play their game. Frankly I've played eve multiple times. It's a decent enough game but I find it painfully boring. EVE is a great game but it's one of those games that just isn't for everyone.
I couldn't stand it. Hated it in beta but kept hoping it would get better. Played several free trials to see if it had improved and it hadn't. It really hasn't changed much since release. It's got some extra widgets and some of the initial kinks in the system were ironed out (But I never thought it was all that buggy). I just can't stand the game I find it painfully monotonous and I have always loathed point-and-click spaceflight. (Hated it in E&B and definitely don't like it in EVE.)
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The song was, Spiderbait - Black Betty (remix from the 70's black betty song).
Nice vid
I have been playing eve 8 months, All i can say... Great game
Heres a starting guide for people who wants to be PvP guys.
As it seems that every other day we have a thread about "how to become a pirate" I thought i would just make a little guide for anybody wishing to start in piracy.
Lets start at the beginning.
REQUIREMENTS
For a low SP character
Many new characters may think themselves useless as pvpers; but this is most definately not the case. In a frigate you can take down, or immobilise, an opponent much larger than yourself. They key to not dieing while yo do it is speed.
Therefore it is alost essential for all new characters to train for a microwarp drive
This will help you to evade missiles (and take less damage from them in the upcoming patch) and evade turret fire.
Thus a new pilot should invest in the following skills:
* High speed maneuvering I
* Navigation IV
* Afterburner IV
This is probably the most time consuming of the skills that you will need.
Next, you will need to be able to use a warp disruptor or warp scrambler, to stop your prey from warping away.
Both of these have their benefeits, however i recommend using a warp scrambler as a lot of your targets may carry a warp core stabiliser, and the -2 scramble on this item is more likely to stop them from warping. Secondly, a warp disruptor uses too much capacitor to be run easily on a frigate.
To use this module you will need to train:
* Propulsion jamming I
* Navigation II (you should lready have this at IV)
* Electronics III
Since you now have the two main essentials: you may also want to fit a stasis webbifier (which has the same requirements for skills as the warp scrambler) to slow down your prey. However this may not be necessary if you are in an asteroid belt or at a planet etc as your target has nowhere to run.
Of course you need a ship to fit these to, and i recommend either the KESTREL or the RIFTER as both have the ability to lock down a target, while staying reasonably fast and dealing some good damage. For the kestrel, the choice between rockets or standard missiles is one best left to you. Rockets are better for close range combat as they have a better damage/time. For the rifter, experiment with the guns/missiles, and find out which suits your style best.
At this point i would not recommend training gunnery skills too much.
(If you are not caldari or minmatar, don't worry, learning the skills to fly either a kestrel or a rifter take very little time at all, and are worth it: as in my opinion they are the best pirating ships. The amarr and gallente equivilents require more gunnery skills and have "inferior" ship loadouts)
Now, running a microwarpdrive and a warp disruptor, along with whatever else you wish to fit, is a drain on your capacitor. Capacitor power relays in the lowslots can help you to sustain the modules.
These require:
* Energy grid upgrades II
* Science I
* Engineering II
(dont worry about all this training: it doesnt take very long, and many of the skills are essential later on anyway)
The rest of the slots on your ship if you have any free) is really up to you.
WHERE DO I HUNT?
By now you are thinking; "Great I'm ready, where do i go to kill!"
Unfortunately it isnt that easy. To find targets, you need to go in 0.4 and below systems. These are often sparsely populated, but now and again you cn find something to kill.
Try to look in the less busy low security systems, as this is where miners are more likely to be hiding. Fly around these until you see a possible target in local.
Then you use your scanner to see what ships are in space. (see "using the scanner" near the end of the tutorial)
If the scanner shows a prime target, such as a hauler or a mining cruiser; off you go. To find him you can either
* Browse the belts
* Use the scanner and narrow him down
using the scanner like this is difficult at firs, but often quicker than going through the belts, and well worth getting used to.
Once you have your prey in your sights: its tme for
THE ATTACK
Orbit your prey at your optimal range and engage your warp scrambler and weapons. If all goes well and you get him to structure, convo him (if you wish to ransom and not just destroy the ship) and ask for a toll. Choose this yourself, judging the value of his ship and modules and thinking how much he would lose if he went boom.
I advise you not to pod kill your target, as the security status hit for this is very heavy, meaning you wont be able to go into high security space.
Once your prey has paid you (hopefully) let him go by deactivating your gns/scramblers. If he did not pay, send him on his merry way in his pod.
Do NOT go near the sentries for 15-20 minutes after you have commited a hostile act, as it will leave you in your pod. (sentres are cruel masters)
SECURITY STATUS
When you kill a player's ship, (and more seriously his pod) you receive a security rating drop. This can only be raised by killing battleship npcs, which is probably wa above you at this point. Dont worry, if yu want to be a true pirate, you can worry about this later: just make sure you dont get trapped in a low security system surrounded by a lot of high security ones, as you may find it hard to get out. Once you reach -5.0 you can be shot ANYWHERE without penalty, so be aware.
Security ratings:
* -1.9 and above: you can enter all space freely
* -2.4 and above: you can enter all but 1.0
* -2.9 and above: you can enter all but 0.9 and above
* -3.4 and above: you can enter all but 0.8 and above
* -3.9 and above: you can enter all but 0.7 and above
* -4.4 and above: you can enter all but 0.6 and above
* -4.5 and below: you cannot enter secure space without being fired upon by the navy/concord
Expect to lose ships often until you get the hang of it. Dont worry: basic frigate setups are cheap.
Lastly: EVE is NOT a single player game, making friends is an excellent idea: and joining a pirate corp can help you to learn quicker and kill more (killing with friends beside you is much easier, and more funWink)
Hope this helps, and if i forgot anything, feel free to post it.
USING THE SCANNER
for the scanning part u generally wanna find some1 at a gate or a belt, most likely the belt in this case.
Open up ur scanner and set ur scan range to 10,000,000km. U will find most belts are maximum of this from a planet so will cover u being able to scan a belt effectively.
Next set ur radius to 30 degrees as u want to accurately scan a belt 1 at a time and picking up item from 2 belts isnt handy. To align the scanner on screen for scanning a particular belt use the onscreen camera and position it so ur ship and the belt(upside down triangle) u want to scan are in alignment.
After u have completed this start ur scan and u will get a list of whats in the belt. Set the fliter to show ascending "Type" and it will be easy to c wot ships (player and npc) are in the belt. After that move in and go to work if u find a suitable target. Rinse and repeat this process with all belts to find targets.
Tip: Rule of thumb is miners in low sec use bookmarks for a planet to instadock and can use them from a belt of that planet. So u might want to start at a planet that has lots of belts to scan. Chances are a pilot uses the same belts of a planet to mine, have secure cans and such and cycles through every day.
Post originally posted by: ParMizaN on EVE forums.