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World of tanks? Worth a download or not?

sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

Game looks kinda slow, but I keep hearing all these people talking about it, not sure if it is mostly bad stuff or good stuff. Is this game worth the download or not?

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  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476

    Why would free not be worth it and find out?

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  • dzonesdzones Member UncommonPosts: 121

    Been playin a year now if you include beta and my answer is a resounding yes. I play this more than any game out there at the moment.

    It is free, you never have to spend a cent if you don't want to. You can of course buy game gold and it can let you become a premium member. With premium the difference is you level a little faster (essentially open more upgrades and newer higher tiered tanks, spg's and tank destroyers faster than a non premium) and get more credits per battle. You can also buy a few items for your tank crew and tank itself that can slightly enhance their abilities on the field but it is not enough to give really unfair advantages. A monthly premium will run you about 14 bucks a month should you decide to do that.

    I do play as a premium member but I have never bought the extras for my crew etc that cost money and I have a blast and do not feel as though the person who does spend the money has any better advantage.

    Best just to try it out and see how ya like it.

  • Cirn0Cirn0 Member Posts: 162

    I'd say you try Men of War before WoT and after, you'll see how boring it is to battle with tanks w/o infantry and how tier of a tank is more important than flanking and ambushing.


    While WoT is pretty fluffy the game dynamics sux, especially the camping part. It'll be fun at first, then it becomes grindy, then you understand that what designers really wanted is to make you buy next tier tank coz you'll be thrown into high lvl battles just to get raped and feel w e a k. Then the game gets boring (with 1 game mode) and you drop it.


    p.s. you dont have to pay for game, but you cant play with your friends if you dont and playing with random people all the time just makes you a human-controlled bot.

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  • Death1942Death1942 Member UncommonPosts: 2,587

    Its pretty good but it is no MMO (unless you count clan wars...but thats a stretch)

     

    As far as the game goes the balance is a bit whack (you can get paired up against tanks you have no chance of killing) and there is Russian bias/German hatred.  In other words, don't play Germans unless you really like those tanks and can stand to get knocked around by your "equals" from Russia.

     

    Overall the game is decent and is very fun at low tiers.  It gets a little bit grindy the higher you go (double that if you have no premium) but it can be very rewarding.

    MMO wish list:

    -Changeable worlds
    -Solid non level based game
    -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads

  • ukforzeukforze Member Posts: 331

    Originally posted by Death1942

    Its pretty good but it is no MMO (unless you count clan wars...but thats a stretch)

     

    As far as the game goes the balance is a bit whack (you can get paired up against tanks you have no chance of killing) and there is Russian bias/German hatred.  In other words, don't play Germans unless you really like those tanks and can stand to get knocked around by your "equals" from Russia.

     

    Overall the game is decent and is very fun at low tiers.  It gets a little bit grindy the higher you go (double that if you have no premium) but it can be very rewarding.

    Everything Death1942 said with the addition that the matchmaking system is a joke

    most of the time & a lot of the maps are crap, but graphically the games nice & is well

    optimised, the historical detail of the tanks & the upgrades is good too.

     

    It's not an mmo, just a FPS in tanks that gets very repetitive & boring, it's fun at first, then becomes

    a boring grind, i'd rate it a 7/10 at most, but worth the download as its free.

     

    ***Aditionally***

    Anyone who says you dont need ot spend a penny is right but only until you get out of the

    basic tanks, then the XP & money required to level becomes so high that you need gold

    unless you plan on grinding relentlesly indefinately

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  • Master10KMaster10K Member Posts: 3,065

    Originally posted by Elsabolts

    Why would free not be worth it and find out?

    I've gotta agree with you. The game is free to download and yet the OP is asking if the download is worth it.... What a stupid question.

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  • ukforzeukforze Member Posts: 331

    Originally posted by Master10K

    Originally posted by Elsabolts

    Why would free not be worth it and find out?

    I've gotta agree with you. The game is free to download and yet the OP is asking if the download is worth it.... What a stupid question.

    I agree with the point your making, but i think he means is it worth wasting his time & bandwidth

    installing something thats garbage...but only he can decide that tbh

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  • ukforzeukforze Member Posts: 331

    Originally posted by Vesper11

    I'd say you try Men of War before WoT and after, you'll see how boring it is to battle with tanks w/o infantry and how tier of a tank is more important than flanking and ambushing.



    While WoT is pretty fluffy the game dynamics sux, especially the camping part. It'll be fun at first, then it becomes grindy, then you understand that what designers really wanted is to make you buy next tier tank coz you'll be thrown into high lvl battles just to get raped and feel w e a k. Then the game gets boring (with 1 game mode) and you drop it.



    p.s. you dont have to pay for game, but you cant play with your friends if you dont and playing with random people all the time just makes you a human-controlled bot.

    QFT

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  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430

    Everyone knows what he''s asking.  quit being tools.  The answer is yes, give it a try.  Its not the be all end all of games, but its prtty fun.

    I self identify as a monkey.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945

    Yes it is a fun game and you should give it a try to see if it is something you will like.

    There are a few weaknesses, but nothing horrible.  Well Tier4 tanks are difficult to get through, but otehrwise the game is a lot of fun.  Even the parts most people complain about are not as bad as they sound. 

     

    It isn't however an mmo.  Just a lobby tank shooter game with 15 vs 15 player maps that last 15 minutes max.  The mechanics are a little odd to pick up at first, like how tanks are spotted, how to hide properly in shrubs/treelines, muzzle fire breaking your hiding, artillery and how to account for it, etc.   Then learning some of the better points to piloting a tank in long range vs close range, where to aim and when to do it, when to charge and when to retreat, etc. 

    It can be a lot of fun.

     

     

  • Suker9Suker9 Member Posts: 22

    Yes ! It is worth download for sure. It a F2P game and have a lot of fun. If u like team play, just give it a try.

  • comicazecomicaze Member Posts: 147

    Originally posted by Death1942

    As far as the game goes the balance is a bit whack (you can get paired up against tanks you have no chance of killing) and there is Russian bias/German hatred.  In other words, don't play Germans unless you really like those tanks and can stand to get knocked around by your "equals" from Russia.

    Are you willing to prove it on battlefield?

  • comicazecomicaze Member Posts: 147

    Originally posted by Vesper11

    While WoT is pretty fluffy the game dynamics sux, especially the camping part.

    I would change the wording - camping sux. That is more like truth. But I am glad that campers are raped in most cases. Best possible outcome for them is a draw.

     


    Originally posted by Vesper11

    p.s. you dont have to pay for game, but you cant play with your friends if you dont and playing with random people all the time just makes you a human-controlled bot.

    Next patch coming this month - two men platoons are free. Otherwise, find a clan.

  • dzonesdzones Member UncommonPosts: 121

    Originally posted by comicaze

    Originally posted by Death1942

    As far as the game goes the balance is a bit whack (you can get paired up against tanks you have no chance of killing) and there is Russian bias/German hatred.  In other words, don't play Germans unless you really like those tanks and can stand to get knocked around by your "equals" from Russia.

    Well this is misleading. Yes you may be put into battles where you are the lowest rank of the 15 on your team and the highest rank on their team may be 2-3 tiers higher BUT there will be tanks or td's that will match up with your level (in the above example the lowest couple of tanks on the enemy side would be equal to yours).

    You make it sound worse than it is in your statement. The idea is to be a little smart about how and what you engage on the battlefield. obviously if you are gonna be outmatched with an enemy do your best to haul ass outta the fight if you can.

    It all boiils down to knowing your tank/td and playing it the way it was designed for. My German PZ IV can take out just about anything from anywhere it can see and that includes tiers above me. It is meant to snipe and hide behind the tough guys.

    Too many people think that they can play all the tanks the same way, rush up and engage whatever they encounter. They die in a shot or two and blame the game being not balanced. I think if you look at the forums for the game you will see a different story. All tanks have their advantages/disadvantages. You just need to learn to play them right.

  • comicazecomicaze Member Posts: 147

    Originally posted by dzones

    Originally posted by comicaze


    Originally posted by Death1942

    As far as the game goes the balance is a bit whack (you can get paired up against tanks you have no chance of killing) and there is Russian bias/German hatred.  In other words, don't play Germans unless you really like those tanks and can stand to get knocked around by your "equals" from Russia.

    Well this is misleading. Yes you may be put into battles where you are the lowest rank of the 15 on your team and the highest rank on their team may be 2-3 tiers higher BUT there will be tanks or td's that will match up with your level (in the above example the lowest couple of tanks on the enemy side would be equal to yours).

    You make it sound worse than it is in your statement. The idea is to be a little smart about how and what you engage on the battlefield. obviously if you are gonna be outmatched with an enemy do your best to haul ass outta the fight if you can.

    It all boiils down to knowing your tank/td and playing it the way it was designed for. My German PZ IV can take out just about anything from anywhere it can see and that includes tiers above me. It is meant to snipe and hide behind the tough guys.

    Too many people think that they can play all the tanks the same way, rush up and engage whatever they encounter. They die in a shot or two and blame the game being not balanced. I think if you look at the forums for the game you will see a different story. All tanks have their advantages/disadvantages. You just need to learn to play them right.

    you misquoted, but I agree with everything you said.

  • dzonesdzones Member UncommonPosts: 121

    Originally posted by comicaze

    Originally posted by dzones


    Originally posted by comicaze


    Originally posted by Death1942

    As far as the game goes the balance is a bit whack (you can get paired up against tanks you have no chance of killing) and there is Russian bias/German hatred.  In other words, don't play Germans unless you really like those tanks and can stand to get knocked around by your "equals" from Russia.

    Well this is misleading. Yes you may be put into battles where you are the lowest rank of the 15 on your team and the highest rank on their team may be 2-3 tiers higher BUT there will be tanks or td's that will match up with your level (in the above example the lowest couple of tanks on the enemy side would be equal to yours).

    You make it sound worse than it is in your statement. The idea is to be a little smart about how and what you engage on the battlefield. obviously if you are gonna be outmatched with an enemy do your best to haul ass outta the fight if you can.

    It all boiils down to knowing your tank/td and playing it the way it was designed for. My German PZ IV can take out just about anything from anywhere it can see and that includes tiers above me. It is meant to snipe and hide behind the tough guys.

    Too many people think that they can play all the tanks the same way, rush up and engage whatever they encounter. They die in a shot or two and blame the game being not balanced. I think if you look at the forums for the game you will see a different story. All tanks have their advantages/disadvantages. You just need to learn to play them right.

    you misquoted, but I agree with everything you said.

    oops sorry. I should of quoted from the original statement.

  • ukforzeukforze Member Posts: 331

    I don't see why you 2 guys are all jumping on 'Death1942's post? he got it bang on!

    Everyone talks about the russian being OP or favoured ingame, all of the russian trees

    are an easy grind & there all fairly manuverable & deal decent damage, the german

    medium & heavy trees are a poor & feel like a horrible grind, although the TD

    tree isnt to bad, the americans are the joke of the game, rarely see a yank tank....

     

    ...Yet you think there isnt bias toward russians? well your the first to disagree other than

    Wargaming... are you mods that are secretly posting here? lol

     

    I have been playing since beta & im still playing now (until SW:TOR is ready) & the balance

    is screwed a lot of the time, certain times of the day are worse than others but i have seen

    some BS matchmaking, tier 4 tanks against tier 8 quite regularly (oh & these are not grouped).

     

    The game does feel like a grind, they have engineered it so without a premium it sucks big.

    Its not fun being seeded againt tanks that tear you apart in one shot along with a lot of the

    maps being quite lame & force players into a giant camp fest.

     

    The game is good but needs a little work imo, nothing game breaking but nevertheless,

    They are a business & they need to make moeny but i'd rather pay for the game & a monthly

    sub the F2P model is the dearest of all in most cases.

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  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945

    Here is a decent link to explain why tanks get put into their respective matches.

     

    Basically certain vehicles are treated as if they are a bit higher tier than they actually are.  Tank Destroyers and Atrillery especially.  So they will most often see matches with lots more higher tier tanks, but at the same time can damage them more easily.

    A few light tanks (specifically Tier 4) are classed as "scout" vehicles so they get stuck in a lot of high tier matches to act as scouts.   Notice how many more columns of groupings the Tier4 lights can get into.  Much of the time the scout tank has little chance of damaging the enemy without circling or flanking, but even then it can be very minimal damage.  The main job is supposed to be to spot enemy tanks for your bigger guns.  Very very very few people are actually good at doing this and most treat these tanks as suicide runners. 

    Heavy tanks can get paired up in higher tier matches than most similar tier medium/lights.  Thems the breaks for being a heavy class tank.

    Tier 4 mediums really get the shaft and where the game is probably the hardest.  The tanks are just not developed enough to be competitive in some of the matches they get into. 

     

    Most of the time you will be in a match that has plenty of targets you can kill or team up and kill.  Aside from the specifics above, half the time you will be in the top grade of tanks on the map and the rest you will be bottom grade.  Note that if you join a platoon (group), the vehicle with the highest spread of possible matches will be used to determine the fight your platoon gets into. 

    So a T1 tank grouped with a T9 tank will always get into a match that has nothing but high level tanks.  Likewise a T5 medium grouped with a T6 arty for example will always get stuck in bad matches for the T5 medium, because the match maker uses the T6 arty to determine the proper match.  On paper it only looks like 1 tier difference, but the T6 artillery isn't classed to fight ANY matches the T5 medium should be in, so it will never draw an appropriate match for the T5 medium. 

    This isn't to say the match maker doesn't make some crazy lopsided teams, but it isn't the norm and games are quick enough that you can just hop into another match.  I've seen a few matches were 1 team has 9 tank destroyers and the other has 1-2.   Depending on the map that can spell certain doom for either team.

     

    An important tip is that you do not have to stick around and wait for the match to end.  If your tank is destroyed you can leave the match and play another tank.  You will still get full credit/xp from the match you left (based on your actions in the fight).  If you stick around you can right click and follow other tanks on your team to learn what they do, which will teach you a lot about the game. 

     

    Here is a link to some FAQS the will help understanding some of the mechanics of the game.   If nothing else read about camouflage, detection mechanics and visibility checks.   Few things upset me more than watching my teams last tank trying to hide in a bush with 5 feet of his front sticking out. 

  • comicazecomicaze Member Posts: 147

    Originally posted by ukforze

    I <...> rarely see a yank tank....

    To put it simply - you are not playing this game. Nothing to discuss further.

    And I don't understand the purpose of your presence here.

  • motersmoters Member UncommonPosts: 73

    Matchmaking in the game plain out sucks. Game needs cheat detection badly. Game has bugs that people exploit like shooting through walls even seen hills shot threw a few times tanks that never miss and always get critcal hits etc. Thats the bad side.

    Can be alot of fun stoped playing getting one shotted and teir 4 does kinda suck. Frist few teirs are alot fun after that it sucks,

  • ukforzeukforze Member Posts: 331

    Originally posted by comicaze

    Originally posted by ukforze

    I <...> rarely see a yank tank....

    To put it simply - you are not playing this game. Nothing to discuss further.

    And I don't understand the purpose of your presence here.

     

    I have played since beta & still do, there aren't many yank tanks about as most of them suck,

    the germans are also getting a much needed buff in the next patch.

     

    Were are all discussing the pros & cons, yet you pick up on one small thing & thats supposed to

    invalid my whole post? ...seriously wtf

     

     

    I have just as much right to speak on these forums as you m8 best to think before you speak m8

    as there is no need for your tone.

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  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945

    The beginning american tanks are ok, but the M3 Lee stands in the way of Heavy Tanks, the M4 Sherman and Artillery.   The Lee is perhaps the worst tank in the game and not very encouraging to continue the US line of tanks.

    The higher tier tanks are good, but the other lines have a lot more appeal for various reasons.

  • comicazecomicaze Member Posts: 147

    Originally posted by ukforze

    Originally posted by comicaze


    Originally posted by ukforze

    I <...> rarely see a yank tank....

    To put it simply - you are not playing this game. Nothing to discuss further.

    And I don't understand the purpose of your presence here.

     

    I have played since beta & still do, there aren't many yank tanks about as most of them suck,

    the germans are also getting a much needed buff in the next patch.

     

    Were are all discussing the pros & cons, yet you pick up on one small thing & thats supposed to

    invalid my whole post? ...seriously wtf

     

     

    I have just as much right to speak on these forums as you m8 best to think before you speak m8

    as there is no need for your tone.

    There are plenty of American tanks in each battle (wanna see some screenshots?) Some of them dominate their tiers, like T29 or Pershing, other are very competitive, like M5, Sherman, Easy8, T20, Patton, T32, T30, not even touching TD and SPG lines. So your comments are completely out of whack, which makes me think you either not playing the game or just trying to despise it due to some other personal reasons.

    Don't want even to start with your German tanks nonsense.

    There are basically just 2 Russian tanks which can arguably be considered OP - T-54 and IS-4. Both getting rebalanced in near future.

  • ironhelixironhelix Member Posts: 448

    Originally posted by ukforze

    Originally posted by comicaze


    Originally posted by ukforze

    I <...> rarely see a yank tank....

    To put it simply - you are not playing this game. Nothing to discuss further.

    And I don't understand the purpose of your presence here.

     

    I have played since beta & still do, there aren't many yank tanks about as most of them suck,

    the germans are also getting a much needed buff in the next patch.

     

    Were are all discussing the pros & cons, yet you pick up on one small thing & thats supposed to

    invalid my whole post? ...seriously wtf

     

     

    I have just as much right to speak on these forums as you m8 best to think before you speak m8

    as there is no need for your tone.

    I don't know what game you are playing, American tanks are very well represented in every match I have ever played. Seems that you don't have any idea what you are talking about.

  • sa1yamansa1yaman Member Posts: 272

    Originally posted by Daffid011

    The beginning american tanks are ok, but the M3 Lee stands in the way of Heavy Tanks, the M4 Sherman and Artillery.   The Lee is perhaps the worst tank in the game and not very encouraging to continue the US line of tanks.

    The higher tier tanks are good, but the other lines have a lot more appeal for various reasons.

    Worst tank is Vk3001 P. 

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