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Republic or Sith?
Theos244
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I am trying to decide which way to go once this game launches. I played KOTOR and tended to like making light side choices and staying loyal to the republic in my story. But watching the videos that Bioware is putting out, the Sith just look so badass... I usually play melee dps in MMORPG's so I will probably be going Sith Warrior/Jedi Knight. But I'm trying to decide whether to choose the side for the story that suits me or for the awesome look of my character. What's everyone else doing?
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I think you'll get a much better gaming exp by going with the story you feel, so for you it'll be republic. For my it's Sith.
Why not make a sith warrior and make "light side" choices? I say it's all in your interpritation of what is "light" and "dark" side. I think you can be a sith and make light side choices if you believe strongly enough that the empire is the light err right side.
I'll eventually play both, but I know that the Sith will be the more popular side, so I'll be going republic first. Smuggler, planning on going in a neutral alignment.
That's true, I didn't think about making the choices towards the opposite side of my allegiance. Has anything been said about how this will effect your character? For example, if I roll a sith but make all light side choices, are there going to be things that I will not unlock on the sith side of things because I don't have enough dark side points?
Roll one of each. I believe each account gets 8 character slots so at the beginning I'm going to roll one Jedi and one Sith at the very least. If I feel like being evil and having fun I'll play the Sith, if I feel like being a goody-two shoes one day, I'll play the Jedi. I'm not going to limit myself. Eventually I will hopefully play through all the classes. The point is you have enough character slots to try a few out, you aren't locked in.
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Yes, your choices will change everything, from the story you experience, to the gear you wear, to the titles you have access to, and even your ablities.
But it will even out, you can go dark, light or gray, its up to you. They did say that going light side sith (warrior) wouldn't be easy (you'd be making tough choices).
I remember hearing that certain abilities will be available to each class depending on how far to one side or the other of the light/dark side bar you are at. So basically if you are a sith and are far to the dark side you may have a specific ability not available if you are full light side sith and vice versa.....i cant remember exactly where I saw that but i know i did.
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It's kinda odd the way the game is structured. In terms of our (RL) morality, the Sith empire is clearly what we'd consider "evil". So choosing to be a sith, even if you go fully lightside is (for lack of a better example) choosing to be "the nicest nazi in the world". I mean, you could be a great person in every way and conducting yourself morally, but your actions are ultimately contributing to a cause that is "evil".
The lack of ability to switch sides is the real problem because that's the only thing that would redeem the above. So if you're - by force of circumstance - forced to do evil things and eventually realize it and want to make amends, well, you really can't. Because once you realize you're on the wrong side, you can't switch.
There is also this confusion in bioware naming things "light" and "dark" side, but those choices not actually corresponding to the "light side of the force" and "dark side of the force" which are familiar to players form the star wars canon. The light and dark sides in TOR actually refer to something else entirely - something more in common with the Paragon / Renegade system of Mass Effect. (e.g. There is no such thing as a Sith Inquisitor using the light side of the force, but BioWare allows for a lightside inquisitor that acts in "nice" ways)
All these things are making the choice extremely difficult for me. I take my character's role pretty seriously, so while i'm drawn to playing a Chiss and doing it in a "light" way, I wouldn't really be able to justify to myself the idea of "doing good things for an evil cause". The lack of class choices for different race is pretty bad too
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I don't know how exactly you meant the above, but it's kind of hard to make 'light side' and 'dark side' choices only linked to 'light side' and 'dark side' of the Force, when non-Force classes like trooper or smuggler or IA are also making light and dark side decisions.
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You are aware that good or bad is subjective ? The people on the dark side arent seeing themselves as evil, they are doing what they think is needed to reach their goal.
And never forget that those are roleplaying games, you dont have to bring your personal beliefs in the game.
All beings are part of the living Force (or if you believe in the new testament, all beings are subject to various degree of midichlorian infection... oh f**k it, i can't make sense of the new crap lucas invented...)
But yeah, that's what i mean, that "light side" and "dark side" alignments in TOR do not correspond to dark side of the force and light side of the force. Just wanted to clarify that for some people as it was something that was had confused me initially.
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You are aware that good or bad is subjective ? The people on the dark side arent seeing themselves as evil, they are doing what they think is needed to reach their goal.
And never forget that those are roleplaying games, you dont have to bring your personal beliefs in the game.
Actually, good and evil are pretty universal. It is based on the moral beliefs on any particular culture (which is why i mentioned "RL") however, there is more than enough indication in Star Wars canon that morality in that galaxy is pretty similar to ours.
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Do you have examples where 'light side' and 'dark side' choices in SWTOR stray away from dark/light side of the Force or morality in the SW universe?
It's kind of vague at the moment to what you're actually referring to right now.
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Well one missconception is that you can be sith and "Good"... and be grey because it's how you "feel"... This has never been the case. "The force" like a diety doesn't discriminate you're either doing something good or you're doing something bad there's no grey area. In KOTOR the system is more like the other poster said a paragon renegade system.
If you're blowing up a planet even if you FEEL it's the right thing to do is EVIL in the eyes of the force. It's there you don't get to CHOOSE to be a sith or a jedi. If you're evil and do evil things the force attunes you accordingly and vice versa.
Like in Dungeons and Dragons. You choose your alignment at character creation but the actions you do determine what it stays at. If you go around hugging babys and saving damsels you're good if you go strapping women to train tracks while laughing maniacally and twirling your mustache you are evil no matter what you "reasons".
Basically the force is like a god... IT decides whether your actions were good or bad not your "Reasoning"
What if the damsel was asking for it, huh? She shouldn't have been wearing those 6 layer dresses and hugging up to Dudley Doright.
The example i gave is best:
You can be a "light side" sith inquisitor in SWTOR.
You cannot be a "light side of the force" sith inquisitor however as the sith inquisitor by definition uses the dark side of the force.
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Sith are evil by nature, even if you decide to help or spare peoples lives in the end of the day you will still be evil, it's in you, and your goals are evil.
As a Jedi you might decide to kill people but for a greater good, might seem like an "evil" decision but if you think about it in long terms you actually did a good deed.
Thats my perspective on things.
The Sith are bound by a code, same as the Jedi. That code is designed to be a pathway to power, through the dark side of the force.
Assuming that as we've seen in other old republic games, your force powers and abilities are closely tied to your alignment, you would be seriously gimping yourself trying to be a "light side" Sith.
"Moderation leads to mediocrity", as Darth Revan once said. You have to give yourself over TOTALLY to the dark side in order to become truely powerful as a Sith.
If you are not willing to slaughter the innocent for personal gain, do yourself (and the Sith) a favor and roll republic.
Yes but can you roll a republic and an empire on the same server?
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personally I say Sith because "in my opinion" Lightside is Gay lol....only because Mark Hamil(Luke Skywalker) Ruined the lightside for me....yeah Anakin was a whiner but his voice wasn't near as annoying to hear as Hamil's was when they both whined LOL....again just my opinion.
yes you can have characters of both factions on the same server
they mentioned it during a Q&A at comic con. it can be seen here at about 6:15
they also hinted at their being an actual reason for creating characters of different factions on the same server and im guessing it would have to do with the legacy system thats been hinted.
and as of yet, they haven't stated how many character slots they will have per server. i know one of the devshas said said 8 sounds like a good number but they hadn't officially decided yet. however i do believe we will get 8
Hmmm wasn't it Jacen Solo who realized that there is no light or dark side of the force, that there is only the force and how you use it determines what we conceive as light or dark?
just remember reading that in vong(<-spelling?) series.
I'm sure most of us will roll on both sides at some point. But we all have one side we will enjoy more. For me personally it's the Republic. But if you can't decide which one to start with. Just ask yourself one question:
If you were presented with the oportunity to have a free 500 million dollars (tax free) with the only cost being that you can never talk/text/interact with your closest friend ever again, would you build a Republic themed or a Sith themed gaming room in your castle home?