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Mastermartz
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Hey guys,
I'm thinking of resubbing to this game to fill my MMO needs for a while until one of the flagships roll in (GW2, ToR). I just wanted to know whats up in rift lately? I played rift for 3 months got a full T2 Cleric (forget the server name though) but I quit because I just burnt out of the game really... Endgame was a complete gear grind.
Has this changed? Or if it hasn't has a substantial amount of content been put in to "mask" this?
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Nothing has changed it is still a grind. They are adding AA into the game soon.
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Alot has changed in Rift actually
What's New
2 10 Man Raids have been added
Free shard transfer
Cross shard LFG Tool
New Warfront incoming
two new 20 man raids Hammerknell and River of Souls
New raiding tear
Tier1 raid bosses now drop gear marks + daily experts offer 1 raid mark
Crafting Rifts
PvP Rifts
Prestige Rank 7/8 and new gear plus chanegs to PvP gear system
Nerf to all Experts including trash reduction
New mounts - Crocnard,new turtle,new horse and a Swift Murdantix..armoured and non-armoured
New endless saga quest chain
New Rifts and zone invasions
Zone invasions now show on the map from any location
New Daily PvP quests (Open world)
New crafting recipes (Raid quality crafetd gear)
New guild crafting dailys
Escalation Warfronts (Only happen at weekends friday-monday)
Cosmetic outfitting system (wardrobe system)
Whats coming
2 new zones,new dungeons,adventure mode,solo and duo dungeons,new warfront map and instant adventure,Alternate Advancement too.Add-ons are coming too
I like the solo/ duo dungeon idea. How are the PvP queue times?
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAmbryZealot/
varies on the server i guess but on blightweald for defiants @ 50 its about 10 minutes
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Cross shard LFG Tool
says it all really.
High population and a great community and you need a cross server lfg tool.
Caveat Emptor
Yea and to top off go watch the 30 min long gamescon video on Riftjunkies.com and be as throughly disgusted with their content approach. basically Trions philosophy is to roll out raid content, then 2-3 patches later roll out similar content for solo/small group orientated individuals.
Nothing screams poor logic then developing 99% of their resources to less then 10% of their playerbase. GOD I hate these "raid or Die" companys who belive that a small segment of the population should be rewarded before anyone else. That video made me sick to my stomach and it just goes to show how stupid and idiotic the themepark MMO genre is.
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Huh?
Who initially introduced cross server tools?
Which game has the highest ever Pop for any MMO ever made?
Answer those questions then delete your post ;-)
^^^^
You are not very knowledgeable about MMORPGs are you ?
Caveat Emptor
I play a tank. I wait 10 seconds if that for a dungeon.
Cross shard LFG Tool is more about people wanting to faceroll on their keyboard and let someone else handle the responsibility.
That won't change until GW2, when if I understand it correctly - you're responsible for yourself and that's it. Not sure if that's right, but when they say getting away from the holy trinity I think that's what they mean for the most part. Great for solo-play, for team orientated group play? not so sure.
The "holy trinity" works fine. The problem is people don't want to actually be challenged when they play MMOs. They prefer to pew pew in the background. That's why Trion implemented the limited cross server lfg tool. Has nothing to do with population. Has everything to do with 100 DPS looking for groups vs 1 tank.
Mastermartz,
I'll try to keep this short and sweet. I'll also keep in mind what you said about being burnt out by this type of game.
IMO, don't come back. I just resubbed (after a holiday) and unfortunately things are just dreadful. The game is still as much a grind, if not more so. To raid (optimally) you will have to clear Raid Rifts, as well as the 10 mans (there are new 10 mans called Slivers). Because the game's population is small, you will probably have to help your guild run expert Rifts, and old 20 man raids to gear up other members as well as alts and get Best-In-Slot gear.
Many of the fights have the "resistance" gimmick - which means you will have to grind another set of resistance gear if you are in a hardcore progression guild.
The PvP - where to begin with this mess? They have made this horrid grind even worse, by adding 2 more ranks. The 4 warfronts really get tiresome after a while. Fortunately, they have introduced the concept of PvP Rifts. Haven't done one yet but they seem pretty good if you have people to complete them with.
The world is dead. So much for dynamism. There is usually an event of some sort every month. These events basically involve some daily quests that reward a special type of token and with this token you can buy stuff: fluff items (pets, for example), and fairly powerful weapons. Bear in mind though: while it's not hard to get these tokens, it can seem mind numbing: doing dailies, running around the countryside, pressing the same tired buttons, closing rift after rift...
But I kid you not; this is basically what every event is.
The new LFG tool is actually fairly good (so far in my experience). But again, it can make doing dungeons a chore. The queue also does not move fast. As a tank during regular hours, I usually wait from anywhere between 2 to 10 minutes. As a DPS, my queues have been as short as 15 minutes to as long as 45. Can't speak for a healers.
So much for "short and sweet", huh?
I just didn't want to paint an incomplete, or dishonest picture of Rift. It's clear that I am severely disillusioned by the MMORPG genre, but I hope I didn't let that colour what I said about RIFT. It's a fun game for many (just go to the RIFT forums; fanboys abound). I fear I am sick of the WoW model that the current MMO industry has a hard on for.
I think if you've got a group of friends to play this game with, it improves a lot. Or if you're not burnt out on the WoW style of games, you might also like it.
"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
I need to take this advice more.
This ladies and gentlemen of MMORPG is what I like to call bull.
For the lulz I will address you "zomg raids are a grind"...yeah Hammerknell is a grind..oddly enough they made it for hardcore guilds to beat their heads against. Your post completely neglects solo/duo Chronicles coming in roughlyyyyyyyyyyy a month if that.
btw these are developed from scratch mind you. So basically hit 50 go into a solo/duo instance and get some gear...also not to mention Drowned Halls in 1.4 was basically the definition of a starter raid...also the water saga quest you can solo/duo gets you some nice gear...also the daily LFG rewards one of those nifty marks that lets you get raid gear....also you can basically buy a tier 1 raid set from a crafter.
THE MOST SCREWED UP PART ABOUT this is Trion takes post like yours seriously. The entire patch 1.5 is designed to make people like the above quoted person happy. AA...solo/duo content....5 mans with master modes you can GET RAID LEVEL GEAR WITHOUT 20 people...actually 1/4 that amount and stil this is not enough.
The simple fact is nothing will be enough for you.
Im always meeting new people out in the world helping them close off rifts. Its awesome. I love it when theres a large zone event happening and you start taking down rifts, then you come across a couple more people doing the same and you group up, then a few more, and more. By the end, youre 20 people strong and making a b-line for some massive boss that is pissed off you just spoiled his invasion. It combines exploration, combat, raiding, meeting new people and socializing, plus it gives you good rewards and some decent cash. Its a very well thought out and well designed game system. Im sorry if some people feel its lifeless or grindy. Perhaps you are what you play? I dunno, I just dont see it.
@Puremallace:
Please refute what I have said. I will take an argument with evidence more seriously.
First of all, I don't need artificial difficulty like a gear grind to prove to myself that I am hardcore/casual. This however is beside the point because I don't see his post or mine have anything to do with content difficulty. So I am not sure why you'd bring it up unless you're simply looking for a way to insult people.
The poster cited his hatred of grinds as a reason for quitting and I replied to him. HONESTLY.
AA is not here yet; had the poster posted a month later, I would have mentioned AA. Are you simply looking for excuses to be rude and start a flame war?
And I'm not sure where you're getting that I care about raid gear... I don't care about gear, period. If you read my post and understood it, you would have realised this for yourself.
I've seen you all over multiple gaming forums Puremallace and I have to wonder if you're someone from the RIFT team, or Scott Hartsman. But then I realise that would be a disservice to think that; I don't think anyone associated with RIFT could be as rude, ignorant or combative as you Puremallace.
Good day, and no thanks for all the insults.
"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
I need to take this advice more.
Instead of being so vague, please tell me what shard you're on? Unlike you, with your airy-fairy nonsense and thinly-veiled attempt at an insult, I can tell you that I have been here since day one of headstart on Aedraxis, then Sunrest, after which I was on Shatterbone and now on Shadefallen.
Month one was a great experience, but even then, people did not socialise out on the road, and chat channels were usually filled with petty "MMO vs MMO" arguments. And when they were not, they were usually silent. On Aedraxis I met a handful of people that I really liked and had on my friends list. It literally was a handful though: 3 of them. One moved to Japan and no longer plays, and the others I lost touch with the shard xfers.
Sunrest was very good but I did not enjoy the PvP aspect of it - so I went on to Shatterbone which was in the top 10 on Rift status. The shard was dead as far as community went. Don't believe me? Roll a character there. Shadefallen is slightly better but still fairly dead.
I intend to roll a character on Faeblight to check it out.
So unlike you, with your passive aggressive attacks and generic PR propaganda, I can at least honestly share my experiences. I also have the graces to concede that my experience may not be the case for all. Which you either did not read, or chose not.
"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
I need to take this advice more.
How you guys call ANYTHING in Rift a grind is just absolutely shocking too me. Go log in to Aion and get to end game and go try and get the Lannok Greatsword out of Adma, then we can talk about grinds. 120 runs and still nothing
You can get end game geared in Rift in less then a month. You people need to pick your arguements better. First Rift is too easy and now it is too hard. Hell with the new crafting gear you can completely skip T1 and T2 raiding.
You are getting progression raiding mixed up with gear grind for some reason. GW2 fans have filled your head with sunshines and rainbows about what the future of mmo's will be. Lets take your amazing system.
ok say they made a point system...you get strength...dexterity, health and toughness...every level you get some points and the game company gives you the freedom to distribute these points. In your grand theory this is complete freedoma nd zomg everyone is free to choose. Guess where I stick those points? In the exact build the min/max'rs tell me too.
You are obviously forgetting why gear was even added into mmorpg's in the first place. Learn from history or you are doomed to repeat it. I seriously do not see you guys crusading this hard against SWToR. ZOMG THEY GOT GEAR ALSO go troll their boards and take a break from Rift for a day.
If you hate gear so much then go back to fps's. I mean that line of thinking has no place in modern MMORPG's. You want them to remove the carrot from the game. wtf is the point of playing the game? You think it is cool to invest 1,000 hours into a game AND HAVE LITERALLY NOTHING to show for it....you literally have not earned anything
8:04:37 AM 8/24/11. Puremallace starts bashing GW2 as he lacks valid arguments to defend Rift.
Invalid arguement? You guys have been bashing Rift for 6 straight months on this tirade about how gear in a mmo is the great satan.
Take that arguement here because it just sounds silly to me
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/forum/141/Hogcaller-Inn-General.html
^ Rift/WoW/SWToR are all just following the design of the original King of MMO's. Go debate your points there and have fun getting laughed out of the forum. You guys are obviously in the minority here and this is proven by solid numbers of players who play this type of game and players who play MMORPG's with a gear objective.
And instead of blocking those people you decide to do the same, proving that you are just bad as them. You linked me to forum, not the actual post. At this point I can't see wether or no the author brought GW2 to the subject, like you are doing constantly.
Guess what would happen. If I went to the GW2 forums and tiraded about how not having gear is just stupid and makes the game pointless I would take a insta ban from this site.
What is obviously going to happen and I am predicting it now is you guys are doing just a WONDERFUL job of attracting that dis grunteled WoW audience you hate so much to GW2. Come April 2012ishhhhhh guess who you got to deal with on the general forums wanting their carrot and gerbil wheel back.
I'm looking forward to GW2 too -- but I do agree with you heh
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The part I am waiting for is "Do what I say or I will unsub!!"
First derp to post that on the Guild Wars forum and I might just piss myself laughing.
You can put some of that down to the high percentage of kids.
Kids don't play very well and....
LFG can be real heartbreaking sometimes..people start to avoid it.