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Should Aisa Pacific Boycott Starwars the Old Republic
cyrician
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Hello All
Now Normally I am a quite reasonable person , But after reading the news and the hype over the last few months and seeing the plain distain of Bioware about their Asia pacific players for TOR I am aghast . Bioware or the dev’s of Tor in the leaste have decieded that due to the fact they want the rest of the world to have a nice experance they will be delaying the release of Tor to asia pacific and to Europe. Now as I have interest in this game I have this to say .
BAD CODE and programming is the cause of most lag not location from servers.
Take for example the brilliant people at Trion not only did they release a brilliant game in Rift (endgame not included in this comment) I as a Australian player in the rift community have very rarely encounter any lag at all.
The even better news that Guild Wars 2 is even thinking about Australian/ Asia servers is a win for them in my books so to my fellow MMO freaks out there I say this.
Are we Aisa/pacific players any less important then the rest of the world apart from demographics should we suffer to the hands of big corporations that think that only the U.S is important in the aspects of game players?
I am Sure I will get some response from people who are I n the U.S and I say this to you all , What would you do if a great game was being released in the near future and they stated that the U.S was not getting access to the game for 4 months after release?
Sure I can still buy the game online (like I do most my games) but it's the point that counts and the fact that they have stated that this decision is purely so that the u.s players get a smooth experience. This implies to me that they have no faith in their ability to release all around the world and have chosen one segment that they see as more important then the rest .
Us Aussies are gamers to !!!!
And I know of alot of games of late that didn’t neglect their player bases from asia pacific and had no issues with launches.
More and more games are taking this Path should we as a demographic Boycott playing Tor because they have stated we do not matter?
Current games;
Star treck online
Rift
Eve online
Firefall
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All bar 6 of the 50+ guildies I was expecting to see in SWTOR have walked away and do not intend on ever playing it now.
The decision to do this was stupid, every reason given so far (and there have been quite a few now) is either deliberately vague OR downright nonsense. Ontop of that we keep being told we will have answers this friday, then its next friday, then the fridya after next and so it goes.
Pathetic "community management" really and in this day and age where global worldwide releases in western MMO's are pretty much the standard it shows they are out of touch. If this is how they treat the red zone community now before launch imagine how poor the treatment will be after launch.
"Guarantee Highest quality of service" indeed !
If they aren't willing to market the game in your area, have made electronic sales exclusive to their own online store so it isn't an option for you, and you don't want to pay the extra money out to have a non Aussie copy shipped to you, then I'd say yes. Boycott the "bleep" out of them, as it dosen't look like you really have any other choice.
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Well lets think about this logically, which you failed to do so in the first place.
The US is one country. Which means one countries laws to abide by, one country to find set up a server farm, etc etc etc. Europe is how many seperate countries? Let alone SE Asia/Oceania. They may only need one server cluster per geographic location, but everything still has ot abide by the differing laws of all countries involved. Australia is especially tricky due to their harsh stand on games and severe overcharging.
And then there is the money cost, as in is it going to be worth the cost to set up seperate servers in these locations right away with no income yet (Yes I know EA is developing, they have tons of money, blah blah blah, SWTOR itslef isn't generating income). Asia is a big problem, because if you include china, you have to censor a bunch of stuff and wait for them to go over the game with a fine tooth comb, and translate it. And if you don't include china, it isn't worth the money to supply servers in asia at all since 99% of asian players are going to be from there. Well, 50%, the rest will be gold farmers (Joke). Europe, while most of them speak english because they have real school systems, is still divided in primary languages, which means another round of translations, which is a lot more money and time. Probably taxes and tariffs of one form or another too.
And the US waits for plenty of games from the asian market to get translated, and we get IP blocked from some as well. You only notice that you do is because the US makes 90% of the games you want to play.
And finally, DISTANCE FROM THE SERVER is the #1 cause of lag, not bad coding or programming. Your statement was completely untrue, I'm sorry.
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"Australia is especially tricky due to their harsh stand on games and severe overcharging."
I do Agree with most your comments though i did think about this as a player not logicly as it was a emotional comment as most things player related are .
Most games that experance bad lag and applications are due to bad programing i say that as an overview statement as apart from bad coms bad programming is the cause of all lag.
If i did think about this logically i would come to the conclusion that all games are a waste of time and life is meaningless due to the size of the universe and how insignificant we all are and how our short life spans mean little in the scope of time .
Thankgod Humans are Emotional not logical :-)
Current games;
Star treck online
Rift
Eve online
Firefall
It's easy to boycott a game that hasn't launched yet. It's also meaningless.
If you really want to play a game and it is out, then are you going to say, but I'm boycotting the game for not having released sooner? I really can't see very many people doing that.
I dont recall saying i was going to boycott the game infact my post says should we?.
I was curious about other players opinions.
Current games;
Star treck online
Rift
Eve online
Firefall
I live in Australia and ordered through Amazon in the USA.
I will be there day 1 with my guildies
Each individual will make that decision themselves.
For myself, I have pre-ordered it through Amazon and will be playing as soon as it arrives.
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
Smart poster is smart!
At least with a sub game they know that people won't tolerate bullshit and leave. With anet we have no recourse but to buy our own lube so our assholes don't get too stretched out from getting bent over a table at Anets will. - Hrimnir
Err ... Vanguard: Saga of Heroes was never translated and can be played in germany just fine anyway.
WHY do I always get this stupid message: "
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ALL THE DAMN TIME ????
where the hell is Aisa?
2 pages and no mention
My spelling is bad sorry.
Current games;
Star treck online
Rift
Eve online
Firefall
Aren't Australians getting a better experience in the long run?
US/Europe = Launch bugs, crashes, broken features, unreleased features, lag, server queues, etc.
Later launch = Launch issues ironed out and some previously unreleased content released.
Thats of course near Berlin, which is right south of Washington.
Cant even buy it, yes boyycott it, watch it burn.
It doesn't really matter what the true reasons are, if they suspect they can't deliver a good product on time, then it makes sense to delay it. I'm pretty sure most everyone here has seen or at least heard about what happens when a game is released before it's ready. It usually torpedoes the game and after that, it doesn't much matter how good the game gets after that it doesn't really recover.
Bioware is not delaying the game to make people angry, or because they just don't like Asians/Russians/Europeans/Australians. I mean, who doesn't like Australians? That's just silly.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Err, not liking a whole country is always silly. There are angels and devils everywhere.
Though I have to admit the USA is giving me a very hard time. Doing a lot of evil things and being completely ignorant about it is NOT a combination I favor.
If you feel underserved more power to you in boycotting the product, in their defense though Europe as I know it isn't one place and there are lot's of techinicalities involved if not why would it be every new release or rerelease seems to have some kind of delay in Europe heard lot's of grumbling about LOTRO and things they did as well so I don't want to just throw BW under the bus.
Asia is another story all together it took WOW years to get there so I would have to guess again there are intricate steps that must be taken for them to release there.
I sure can't comment against a gamer standing up against what they consider to be unfair treatment against them or the country they live in so again more power to you and good luck.
Dear cyrician, NEVER think you are unreasonable because you fight for your interests! That is what people will tell you who got all in full and don't care for others at all. I fully understand your anger and frustration!
As someone who firmly believes in fairness and equality, you have my full sympathy and support for your righteous request! I hope they find a solution for you guys.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
I can understand how you may be upset but like a previous commentor said you arent the only country that gets things later. Take Aion for example, if i remember correctly that game took 2-3 years for it to release in the US. A large majority of the time we Dont even get the option to ever play some of the games released in other countries. On top of all that I cant even imagine the logistic nightmare it must be trying to cordinate with all those foreign laws/taxes/censoring. Be happy that you are even having the oppurtunity to purchase the game. As a friend of mine said "Its a USA made game, why should we bow down to other countries? We made it so we should be able to play it first."
TL:DR Buy it on amazon and play it on release or wait and be happy that you even have the chance to buy it in the first place. I imagine youd be alot more upset if your country was IP banned from the game like some asian countries do to the US.
If you don't like the decisions a company is making, don't buy their products. It's amazing how difficult it is for gamers to summon the conviction to do this. And I prefer not to think of it as boycotting because I'm not given to useless histrionics that accomplish nothing, which is essentially what the threat of boycott is. Do it because you refuse to play ball by their rules, and then be prepared to be totally ignored. It won't alter anything, but nothing you can do, will. Say 'no' for yourself, not to try and effect change.
If you don't like a decision, don't support it. To hell with everyone else.
Way to try and spread 100% false info... they have said numerous times just the opposite... Please read up on your facts before spouting off 100% false info.
Thanks,
So your first line says one thing and then you contradict yourself in the very next sentence? How about saying you don't like American politicians or leaders .... something along those lines...
anyway it just gets old seeing so much bad mouthing of the US.
I believe the reason that they are delaying the release in those regions, at least the main reason, is that they first want to see whether or not their game becomes a financial success. It would not be to their advantage to invest all the time, money, and effort it takes to do a full release in those markets, if their game becomes a financial failure.
Also, internet boycotts are pointless http://www.the-ghetto.org/content/why-your-internet-boycotts-dont-work