I don't know about most of you but for me this is the place I go when my mmorpg experience is not sated. I come here when World of Warcraft bores me when im caught in the corner and don't know which way to go. I will log on and look for some reason to try a game a great game that will take my breath away.
Which brings up another question will there ever be a game that you think will be the end all be all for you. A love at first site if you will I mean hell you may divorce at some point but there has got to be a reason your going back to this site. Me? I just keep going back to the fridge to see if there are any new snacks. And one day i hope to see that cheescake waiting for me on the other side.
What I am getting at is are you looking for the same thing I am? Is there that perfect game? Right now GW2 would be amazing but we are talking about right now. Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.
Yes.
It started with WoW. I enjoyed everything that I played before it. Now nearly every top MMO has been a lame offshoot of WoW in one form or another and I've grown increasingly tired of seeing the same tyoe of game with the same tyoe of features in a new skin. And sometimes itt even looks the same, here's looking at you Allods.
I need a MMO with some meaning. Ultima Online, Everquest, Dark Age of Camelot... a AAA sandbox hybrid? I'm pretty much sitting around waiting for it. Will it come? Who knows. No, not Archage.
well every so often there will be a game, sometimes it takes awhile. before the net became big with games for me, and i will try to do it chronologically my best, there was: FF6, FFX, Halo, then the net came around: Counter-Striker, Unreal Tournament. When MMOs hit I never played because of my PC. WoW was my first an it lasted quite awhile. I stoppedr play WoW a few months back. What am i looking forward to? TOR just to see...I beta'd it and enjoy it but I need to play it more. Besides that: Halo Anniversary edition will most likely hold my attention. As far as MMOs, GW2 is very very high up there. I enjoy sandbox games (not manye do) so i play a lot of those here and there, mostly trials to see what fits my description. When a person gets bored of one MMO i recommned going to another that is the complete opposite. Bored of WoW? Do a sandbox...
well every so often there will be a game, sometimes it takes awhile. before the net became big with games for me, and i will try to do it chronologically my best, there was: FF6, FFX, Halo, then the net came around: Counter-Striker, Unreal Tournament. When MMOs hit I never played because of my PC. WoW was my first an it lasted quite awhile. I stoppedr play WoW a few months back. What am i looking forward to? TOR just to see...I beta'd it and enjoy it but I need to play it more. Besides that: Halo Anniversary edition will most likely hold my attention. As far as MMOs, GW2 is very very high up there. I enjoy sandbox games (not manye do) so i play a lot of those here and there, mostly trials to see what fits my description. When a person gets bored of one MMO i recommned going to another that is the complete opposite. Bored of WoW? Do a sandbox...
Claiming that not many like sandbox games may be true. But, not because they don't like the features. Sit down and ask a friend if they would love to play a game with all of the dream features that sandbox can provide and you'll have them interested. The problem is that the only developers with the balls happen to be the ones without the money as well. If EVE can roll with 300k being a spreadsheet space sandbox MMO.. I have no doubt that a AAA fantasy sandbox hybrid could draw in at least as much. For today's standards, 300k subscriptions is a VERY successful MMO.
Not playing any mmorpg atm , cause they all are heavily focused on combat and end-game instance treadmill.
Games that are not like that , either are not my cup of tea like EVE - becasue it is about spaceship and have official buy gold possibility which I don't accept. I want game that create 'world' and allow non-combat gameplay viable and similarly important as combat one , and a game that is about personal character not about flying spaceship + is pure p2p. Guess I might not find this kind of game anymore hmm...
Other games are F2P / Freemium and I am not playing those models again after my experiences with them.
Since there are less pure P2P games made + most of games are still heavily combat only focused , I am quite close to stop waiting. I guess 2012 is 'last chance' for me. If that won't work I will stop actively waiting and following mmo market and will just take a peek every year or so , since changes in this market take long and I am starting to see 'active waiting , reading infos / articles / forums on daily/weekly or even monthly basis as a waste of time...
Hmm actually I will try to limit my hanging around on mmo sites immedietaly. Cya o/
Hope maybe AA will be able to bring some other experience than most of treadmill / "combat only and forgot the rest" kind of mmo games
I finally realized today that the whole reason I keep doing the whole quit-restart-quit MMO cycle is because I greatly enjoy doing group stuff with friends (or guildies) but keep getting turned off by how shallow people are.
In WoW atleast, I always end up spending the better part of 2 weeks getting caught up gear wise only to realize that, in the end, those people I'm playing with are not actual people - they're manifestations of pure unadulterated greed who don't give a rat's fuck about me. This is a hard pill to swallow.
At least in Darkfall I was able to participate in guild everything after a week or so of grinding - I'm sure that wouldn't be the case anymore now that everyone has had 2+ years to bot their ways to uber-l33tness.
/sigh
I'm still waiting on a good game that has good graphics, dungeon crawls, and good people. Kinda like old OLD DAoC or pre-Ren. UO.
Even if that game did exist u would get bored of it like you are feeling now.It sounds like your on a MMO burnout:)
This is becomming a very interesting thread I hope more people chime in. I may waste time in LoL maybe I do not want to i would love to make progress in a game I might like. I will definitely keep checking the forums
I finally realized today that the whole reason I keep doing the whole quit-restart-quit MMO cycle is because I greatly enjoy doing group stuff with friends (or guildies) but keep getting turned off by how shallow people are.
In WoW atleast, I always end up spending the better part of 2 weeks getting caught up gear wise only to realize that, in the end, those people I'm playing with are not actual people - they're manifestations of pure unadulterated greed who don't give a rat's fuck about me. This is a hard pill to swallow.
At least in Darkfall I was able to participate in guild everything after a week or so of grinding - I'm sure that wouldn't be the case anymore now that everyone has had 2+ years to bot their ways to uber-l33tness.
/sigh
I'm still waiting on a good game that has good graphics, dungeon crawls, and good people. Kinda like old OLD DAoC or pre-Ren. UO.
Even if that game did exist u would get bored of it like you are feeling now.It sounds like your on a MMO burnout:)
Agreed, but that MMOs tend to be so similar really doesn't help, it makes burnouts faster and worse.
I am waiting for GW2 and World of Darkness to go live.
And this seems to be the only thing anybody is really doing. But I find it hard to believe there isn't something that is alright for right now just "alright" and able to play untill then really.... at this point I will settle for "alright" lol.
The games being released these couple years seems to be the only cure for our hoplessness with the mmo gaming industry. I can totally understand where everyone is coming from really. But I would still like to find something somewhere I could pittle around in.
Originally posted by nyxium I am waiting for GW2 and World of Darkness to go live.
Me too, but I check out all other releases and try to get into the open betas just so I don't miss anything good as well.
I think betas are their own kind of fun. I'll spend many hours in games that are not something I would consider buying or playing, just because I'm beta testing. :-)
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
I am digging into CoH for the time being with a few friends and having a great time. It really has a lot to offer play/ story wise, a great community in general, and is perfectly suited to our casual static group. They will probably be going to SWtoR soon, but thats cool, we will have played the game a lot by then and I will be ready for Batman: AC, Rage,Tombraider, and Skyrim. We will probably regroup for GW2 as most seem to think they will be done with SWtoR by then.
So, no, I don't wait around... There are way too many games out there, both old and new, on the PC and on my 360, that I havent enjoyed yet to see any of my leisure game time as dead water.
Insidious and exploitative revenue models aside, which I think is the absolute cancer of the modern gaming industry, games right now are as bright for me as they ever were.
I've been waiting for a new MMO since about March, when I quit Aion. Will probably give in to SWTOR on December 20th, then switch to GW2 when it comes out.
In the mean time I've tried some F2P MMOs but nothing has really caught my interests. Naturally I've been playing the latest SP games this year and will continue to do so. But you just don't get that sense of community that an MMO gives.
Currently waiting for the MMO industry to put out something good.
I've been waiting for a new MMO since about March, when I quit Aion. Will probably give in to SWTOR on December 20th, then switch to GW2 when it comes out.
In the mean time I've tried some F2P MMOs but nothing has really caught my interests. Naturally I've been playing the latest SP games this year and will continue to do so. But you just don't get that sense of community that an MMO gives.
... My issue is seeing so many posts day in and day out of people who seem like they don't know what to do with themselves as their are no games to play.
If you have a past time and it suddenly ceases to be fulfilling then why languish?
You bring up a very vivid mental image of a toddler trying desperately to jam a rectangular shaped piece into a circular slot.
Have fun with it.
except that you have no actual argument but want to be argumentitive for the sake of being argumentative. I've explained my position. If you have a rebuttal then have at it. if you just want to be insutling for the sake of being insulting then I'll leave you to work that out for yourself.
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<>Which brings up another question will there ever be a game that you think will be the end all be all for you. <>
What I am getting at is are you looking for the same thing I am? Is there that perfect game? <>
Of course there will be. It's happened before and it will happen again. Will it be one of the upcoming MMOs? I'll be there on the launch dates and hope something sticks. That I find great people to play with, that there's meaningful gameplay mechanics, awesome graphics/art style.
Does perfection in any shape or form exist? I believe it does, in our minds.
So if I let go of my ideals a bit, I will be able to enjoy something a bit more for however flawed it may be. So no, I don't believe there is a perfect game. What I am looking for is a world I can lose myself in. Then I'll know I have found my ideal game.
I finally realized today that the whole reason I keep doing the whole quit-restart-quit MMO cycle is because I greatly enjoy doing group stuff with friends (or guildies) but keep getting turned off by how shallow people are.
In WoW atleast, I always end up spending the better part of 2 weeks getting caught up gear wise only to realize that, in the end, those people I'm playing with are not actual people - they're manifestations of pure unadulterated greed who don't give a rat's fuck about me. This is a hard pill to swallow.
At least in Darkfall I was able to participate in guild everything after a week or so of grinding - I'm sure that wouldn't be the case anymore now that everyone has had 2+ years to bot their ways to uber-l33tness.
/sigh
I'm still waiting on a good game that has good graphics, dungeon crawls, and good people. Kinda like old OLD DAoC or pre-Ren. UO.
I call that "The Soloer's Lament".
And it seems the overwhelming boredom that a lot of people feel comes from repeating dull, grindy tasks alone. But the next game comes along, and they begin dilligently grinding out the levels alone again.
Certainly not everybody's a social animal, but a lot of people seem to spend less time with other players than they should. If you find yourself getting bored that easily, maybe it's time to get back into the human side of the game.
Talk about joining a guild, and the answer you get is "I hate the politics, or the 'elitist snobs'." Self-defeating and ultimately just another weight on the boredom chain dragging around behind you.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I'm going insane with MMO boredom. Leveling is just boring and slow as piss in all these games lately. I can't take it anymore.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
And it seems the overwhelming boredom that a lot of people feel comes from repeating dull, grindy tasks alone. But the next game comes along, and they begin dilligently grinding out the levels alone again.
Certainly not everybody's a social animal, but a lot of people seem to spend less time with other players than they should. If you find yourself getting bored that easily, maybe it's time to get back into the human side of the game.
Talk about joining a guild, and the answer you get is "I hate the politics, or the 'elitist snobs'." Self-defeating and ultimately just another weight on the boredom chain dragging around behind you.
Actually, I find that the more boring and frustrating an MMO is, the worse the players sometimes treat each other. And it's not self-defeating to avoid toxic encounters with other humans, in a game or anywhere else. Unless of course you think it's self-defeating to avoid misery, anger, and frustration, none of which are good for one's mental or physical health. I'm sure game companies would love it if we would pay them for more of the garbage we're now completely bored of because we find each other so darn entertaining to be around, but be realistic, that isn't going to happen. Yes, groups and guilds can help make repetition more fun, but when an MMO is so similar to all the rest, why not just skip it, save some money, and go to a chat room to socialize?
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, but I rarely find myself getting bored playing MMOs. I know that I haven't been playing MMOs as long as some of you on this site, but I've built up my repetoire of games enough to where, if I get bored with one game, I simply switch to another. Then, I found this site. I've found two games from this site that I've added to my list that I've found will most likely keep me busy for a while.
With that being said, I encourage you guys to check out Istaria or Xyson. It seems like these days there is too much focus on graphics. GRAPHICS DOES NOT MAKE A GAME GOOD. What makes a game good is gameplay, uniqueness, and in-depthness, and we've made to believe that graphics is what makes a game great.
What I hope is that that there will be a shift from games that hold your hand to games that make you search, but I'm not holding my breath..
As far as MMO's go I have been waiting around since RIFT beta. None of the current mmo's have really tickled my fancy. I personally enjoy playing mmo's within the first couple of months of launch when things are fresh and new. Older games tend to get too top heavy and stale when every player has a collection of maxxed out toons. I am honestly looking forward to SWTOR, GW2, and TSW since they each seem to have something relatively new. For now its Baldur's Gate and Master of Magic to bide my time (till Skyrim that is).
Cheers!
MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, but I rarely find myself getting bored playing MMOs. I know that I haven't been playing MMOs as long as some of you on this site, but I've built up my repetoire of games enough to where, if I get bored with one game, I simply switch to another. Then, I found this site. I've found two games from this site that I've added to my list that I've found will most likely keep me busy for a while.
With that being said, I encourage you guys to check out Istaria or Xyson. It seems like these days there is too much focus on graphics. GRAPHICS DOES NOT MAKE A GAME GOOD. What makes a game good is gameplay, uniqueness, and in-depthness, and we've made to believe that graphics is what makes a game great.
What I hope is that that there will be a shift from games that hold your hand to games that make you search, but I'm not holding my breath..
I really like graphics in a game they really make it look like art so that I can really get into it really if your some crappy looking naive would you really be like yeah thats me doing quests blah... I like to really immerse myself into the game. Everyone is different really i mean if gameplay alone can do it for you thats great but i want something that people... a lot of people put work into.
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Yes.
It started with WoW. I enjoyed everything that I played before it. Now nearly every top MMO has been a lame offshoot of WoW in one form or another and I've grown increasingly tired of seeing the same tyoe of game with the same tyoe of features in a new skin. And sometimes itt even looks the same, here's looking at you Allods.
I need a MMO with some meaning. Ultima Online, Everquest, Dark Age of Camelot... a AAA sandbox hybrid? I'm pretty much sitting around waiting for it. Will it come? Who knows. No, not Archage.
well every so often there will be a game, sometimes it takes awhile. before the net became big with games for me, and i will try to do it chronologically my best, there was: FF6, FFX, Halo, then the net came around: Counter-Striker, Unreal Tournament. When MMOs hit I never played because of my PC. WoW was my first an it lasted quite awhile. I stoppedr play WoW a few months back. What am i looking forward to? TOR just to see...I beta'd it and enjoy it but I need to play it more. Besides that: Halo Anniversary edition will most likely hold my attention. As far as MMOs, GW2 is very very high up there. I enjoy sandbox games (not manye do) so i play a lot of those here and there, mostly trials to see what fits my description. When a person gets bored of one MMO i recommned going to another that is the complete opposite. Bored of WoW? Do a sandbox...
Claiming that not many like sandbox games may be true. But, not because they don't like the features. Sit down and ask a friend if they would love to play a game with all of the dream features that sandbox can provide and you'll have them interested. The problem is that the only developers with the balls happen to be the ones without the money as well. If EVE can roll with 300k being a spreadsheet space sandbox MMO.. I have no doubt that a AAA fantasy sandbox hybrid could draw in at least as much. For today's standards, 300k subscriptions is a VERY successful MMO.
Waiting here.
Not playing any mmorpg atm , cause they all are heavily focused on combat and end-game instance treadmill.
Games that are not like that , either are not my cup of tea like EVE - becasue it is about spaceship and have official buy gold possibility which I don't accept. I want game that create 'world' and allow non-combat gameplay viable and similarly important as combat one , and a game that is about personal character not about flying spaceship + is pure p2p. Guess I might not find this kind of game anymore hmm...
Other games are F2P / Freemium and I am not playing those models again after my experiences with them.
Since there are less pure P2P games made + most of games are still heavily combat only focused , I am quite close to stop waiting. I guess 2012 is 'last chance' for me. If that won't work I will stop actively waiting and following mmo market and will just take a peek every year or so , since changes in this market take long and I am starting to see 'active waiting , reading infos / articles / forums on daily/weekly or even monthly basis as a waste of time...
Hmm actually I will try to limit my hanging around on mmo sites immedietaly. Cya o/
Hope maybe AA will be able to bring some other experience than most of treadmill / "combat only and forgot the rest" kind of mmo games
Even if that game did exist u would get bored of it like you are feeling now.It sounds like your on a MMO burnout:)
This is becomming a very interesting thread I hope more people chime in. I may waste time in LoL maybe I do not want to i would love to make progress in a game I might like. I will definitely keep checking the forums
I am waiting for GW2 and World of Darkness to go live.
Me too, but I check out all other releases and try to get into the open betas just so I don't miss anything good as well.
Agreed, but that MMOs tend to be so similar really doesn't help, it makes burnouts faster and worse.
And this seems to be the only thing anybody is really doing. But I find it hard to believe there isn't something that is alright for right now just "alright" and able to play untill then really.... at this point I will settle for "alright" lol.
The games being released these couple years seems to be the only cure for our hoplessness with the mmo gaming industry. I can totally understand where everyone is coming from really. But I would still like to find something somewhere I could pittle around in.
I think betas are their own kind of fun. I'll spend many hours in games that are not something I would consider buying or playing, just because I'm beta testing. :-)
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
I am digging into CoH for the time being with a few friends and having a great time. It really has a lot to offer play/ story wise, a great community in general, and is perfectly suited to our casual static group. They will probably be going to SWtoR soon, but thats cool, we will have played the game a lot by then and I will be ready for Batman: AC, Rage,Tombraider, and Skyrim. We will probably regroup for GW2 as most seem to think they will be done with SWtoR by then.
So, no, I don't wait around... There are way too many games out there, both old and new, on the PC and on my 360, that I havent enjoyed yet to see any of my leisure game time as dead water.
Insidious and exploitative revenue models aside, which I think is the absolute cancer of the modern gaming industry, games right now are as bright for me as they ever were.
I've been waiting for a new MMO since about March, when I quit Aion. Will probably give in to SWTOR on December 20th, then switch to GW2 when it comes out.
In the mean time I've tried some F2P MMOs but nothing has really caught my interests. Naturally I've been playing the latest SP games this year and will continue to do so. But you just don't get that sense of community that an MMO gives.
True I guess all we can do is wait....
except that you have no actual argument but want to be argumentitive for the sake of being argumentative. I've explained my position. If you have a rebuttal then have at it. if you just want to be insutling for the sake of being insulting then I'll leave you to work that out for yourself.
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Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Apparently I'm white and value law and order:
I imagine that would explain where I'm coming from?
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Of course there will be. It's happened before and it will happen again. Will it be one of the upcoming MMOs? I'll be there on the launch dates and hope something sticks. That I find great people to play with, that there's meaningful gameplay mechanics, awesome graphics/art style.
Does perfection in any shape or form exist? I believe it does, in our minds.
So if I let go of my ideals a bit, I will be able to enjoy something a bit more for however flawed it may be. So no, I don't believe there is a perfect game. What I am looking for is a world I can lose myself in. Then I'll know I have found my ideal game.
I call that "The Soloer's Lament".
And it seems the overwhelming boredom that a lot of people feel comes from repeating dull, grindy tasks alone. But the next game comes along, and they begin dilligently grinding out the levels alone again.
Certainly not everybody's a social animal, but a lot of people seem to spend less time with other players than they should. If you find yourself getting bored that easily, maybe it's time to get back into the human side of the game.
Talk about joining a guild, and the answer you get is "I hate the politics, or the 'elitist snobs'." Self-defeating and ultimately just another weight on the boredom chain dragging around behind you.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I'm going insane with MMO boredom. Leveling is just boring and slow as piss in all these games lately. I can't take it anymore.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
Me too thats why im wating for Diablo 3
Actually, I find that the more boring and frustrating an MMO is, the worse the players sometimes treat each other. And it's not self-defeating to avoid toxic encounters with other humans, in a game or anywhere else. Unless of course you think it's self-defeating to avoid misery, anger, and frustration, none of which are good for one's mental or physical health. I'm sure game companies would love it if we would pay them for more of the garbage we're now completely bored of because we find each other so darn entertaining to be around, but be realistic, that isn't going to happen. Yes, groups and guilds can help make repetition more fun, but when an MMO is so similar to all the rest, why not just skip it, save some money, and go to a chat room to socialize?
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, but I rarely find myself getting bored playing MMOs. I know that I haven't been playing MMOs as long as some of you on this site, but I've built up my repetoire of games enough to where, if I get bored with one game, I simply switch to another. Then, I found this site. I've found two games from this site that I've added to my list that I've found will most likely keep me busy for a while.
With that being said, I encourage you guys to check out Istaria or Xyson. It seems like these days there is too much focus on graphics. GRAPHICS DOES NOT MAKE A GAME GOOD. What makes a game good is gameplay, uniqueness, and in-depthness, and we've made to believe that graphics is what makes a game great.
What I hope is that that there will be a shift from games that hold your hand to games that make you search, but I'm not holding my breath..
As far as MMO's go I have been waiting around since RIFT beta. None of the current mmo's have really tickled my fancy. I personally enjoy playing mmo's within the first couple of months of launch when things are fresh and new. Older games tend to get too top heavy and stale when every player has a collection of maxxed out toons. I am honestly looking forward to SWTOR, GW2, and TSW since they each seem to have something relatively new. For now its Baldur's Gate and Master of Magic to bide my time (till Skyrim that is).
Cheers!
MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S
I really like graphics in a game they really make it look like art so that I can really get into it really if your some crappy looking naive would you really be like yeah thats me doing quests blah... I like to really immerse myself into the game. Everyone is different really i mean if gameplay alone can do it for you thats great but i want something that people... a lot of people put work into.