What about 1.19 Impressions in the title makes you think this is a re-review? We're just reporting a writer's impressions of a major game's content updates. Like it or not, the failure and attempted resurrection of FFXIV is big news in the industry and we'd be remiss if we didn't cover it. These aren't reviews. Reviews have big bold letters that state as much and also have scores and pros and cons to go along with them. These are akin to "First Impressions" pieces we run with many AAA games' content updates. Most recently last week's Rift 1.5 Impressions.
Try to be excellent to everyone you meet. You never know what someone else has seen or endured.
imo 50$$ is still too high of a price for this game..no way will i pay 50$ for a game that still hasnt gotten fixed sence release
and as for it being / going to the ps3..imo i dont think its gonna make it..if they are haveing such problems with it on pc...i dont see em doing it on the ps3
knowing them they will scrap it and start plans on a new one
Originally posted by BillMurphy @theKandy: What about 1.19 Impressions in the title makes you think this is a re-review? We're just reporting a writer's impressions of a major game's content updates. Like it or not, the failure and attempted resurrection of FFXIV is big news in the industry and we'd be remiss if we didn't cover it.
First this site "re-reviews" the game mere days before major patches twice, then this silly article that shows quite clearly that the "writer" doesn't even know what he's talking about.
The official review was posted in July 2011. Additionally, neither the v1.18 nor the v1.19 articles are reviews. The former was an opinion piece wondering if the game was any better. The latter clearly states in its title that it is an IMPRESSIONS piece.
Patch 1.18 and 1.19 were both awesome and the game is headed in the right direction no doubt about it , i don't see what people expect them to fix about the game , its progressing fine , also its free monthly , cant beat that specialy when the game is still better tham most other mmorpg's out atm .
Patch 1.18 and 1.19 were both awesome and the game is headed in the right direction no doubt about it , i don't see what people expect them to fix about the game , its progressing fine , also its free monthly , cant beat that specialy when the game is still better tham most other mmorpg's out atm .
Better than most other MMORPG's out there? Surely you jest. FFXIV was the most boring, repetitive, unimmersive and uninspiring MMO I have played.
I know the game will still be around because they have too much money invested, this is their "flagship mmo" for the next decade and they still have to release in China which probably will be their big moneymaker IF they can outperform games like Wulin, ArcheAge and other Asian sandboxes.
The amount of money invested doesn't matter, as they will never earn it back anymore anyway.
The only reason they continue invest in this title, is that they still have the funds for it and to try salvage their damaged reputation (something typical japanese and the diehard fans might be glad for it).
Any other company would have switched off the servers long ago.
Remember Tabula Rasa? How much money NCSoft sank in that one? It was shut down a little over a year after release!
And that game was actually leaps and bounds better than FFXIV and heck more fun to play! And yet NCSoft didn't want to continue invest in it and terminated it anyway.
But even Square Enix management and their stakeholders have their limits and you can bet on it that there is a deadline set on this title. When that deadline passes and the title is still not performing, even FFXIV will be terminated.
If it's 6 months from now, or a year... that will be anybodies guess... but you can bet there is a performance deadline set!
Not exactly a fair comparision at least SE's project leader/manager/concept designer/lead game designer did not launch himself into space in the middle of game launch.
Patch 1.18 and 1.19 were both awesome and the game is headed in the right direction no doubt about it , i don't see what people expect them to fix about the game , its progressing fine , also its free monthly , cant beat that specialy when the game is still better tham most other mmorpg's out atm .
Better than most other MMORPG's out there? Surely you jest. FFXIV was the most boring, repetitive, unimmersive and uninspiring MMO I have played.
Im talking since 1.18 and nothing before that , its got plenty to do and is fairly different tham most mmorpg clones made today so indeed my statement is true
Patch 1.18 and 1.19 were both awesome and the game is headed in the right direction no doubt about it , i don't see what people expect them to fix about the game , its progressing fine , also its free monthly , cant beat that specialy when the game is still better tham most other mmorpg's out atm .
Better than most other MMORPG's out there? Surely you jest. FFXIV was the most boring, repetitive, unimmersive and uninspiring MMO I have played.
Im talking since 1.18 and nothing before that , its got plenty to do and is fairly different tham most mmorpg clones made today so indeed my statement is true
Your opinion is true for yourself, and nothing more. You might enjoy this travesty of a game, but it is quite obvious that the game is not worth the cash to a far greater majority. Even without a monthly fee, the game continues to flounder, and impression pieces such as this echo the same opinions of the game in a broader spectrum.
SE completely missed the mark from the get go, and no update will bring in the masses. You only get one shot at a first impression.
Patch 1.18 and 1.19 were both awesome and the game is headed in the right direction no doubt about it , i don't see what people expect them to fix about the game , its progressing fine , also its free monthly , cant beat that specialy when the game is still better tham most other mmorpg's out atm .
Better than most other MMORPG's out there? Surely you jest. FFXIV was the most boring, repetitive, unimmersive and uninspiring MMO I have played.
Im talking since 1.18 and nothing before that , its got plenty to do and is fairly different tham most mmorpg clones made today so indeed my statement is true
Expressing an opinion in terms of an absolute does not make it true, just an opinion. Your opinion is not even shared for by a majority. Glad you enjoy the game, but it is not provenly or definitively better than most MMO's out there. I will move on now because this could go on forever.
I came to the exact same conclusions last time with patch 1.18 after I started playing again (and gave up again after a few days).
You only have to take a look at how obnoxiously bad the city design is in Uldah. I ran around there doing quests and stuff for several DAYS and still had to look on the map for navigation every 10 steps to know where I'm heading. Leves and combat are a joke and the UI still makes you feel as if you had no control over the game.
As time goes by I'm more and more astonished at the magnitude of pure condensed suckage that is FF14. I'm not hating here, I'm really genuinely astonished at the thought that this game released one year (!) ago and is being fixed since then in an ongoing effort and it still sucks more than other mmos who are in early alphas.
First this site "re-reviews" the game mere days before major patches twice, then this silly article that shows quite clearly that the "writer" doesn't even know what he's talking about.
The official review was posted in July 2011. Additionally, neither the v1.18 nor the v1.19 articles are reviews. The former was an opinion piece wondering if the game was any better. The latter clearly states in its title that it is an IMPRESSIONS piece.
Semantics. Reviews or not, extremely negative (and in many parts misinformative and misleading) articles posted right before major patches are a laughable show of lack of professional attitude.
Add to this the plainly false information included in this "impressions" piece (you may want to have someone that actually holds some experience in a game write about it, it helps), and you get a quite sad scenario of disservice done to your readers.
Oh, and let me point out something else. The fact that the author of this "article" can't even get his own pictures (on a PC game that has a dedicated feature for screenshotting, lol), but has to use screenshots "courtesy of" someone else, is rather ridiculous, and shows how much credibility he has in his "impressions" about the game.
Patch 1.18 and 1.19 were both awesome and the game is headed in the right direction no doubt about it , i don't see what people expect them to fix about the game , its progressing fine , also its free monthly , cant beat that specialy when the game is still better tham most other mmorpg's out atm .
Patch 1.18 and 1.19 were both awesome and the game is headed in the right direction no doubt about it , i don't see what people expect them to fix about the game , its progressing fine , also its free monthly , cant beat that specialy when the game is still better tham most other mmorpg's out atm .
ff XIV is f2p?
You have to buy the client , which i got from gamestop for 15$ and it has a subscription model like most pay to play mmorpg's, but they are not currently charging players to play so yes once you buy it its free.
I bought this game at launch, and like most quickly stoped playing. With that said if they make improvments and go FTP I would give it another try as I love the FF IP. With that said as bad as this game was a launch, and being I am one of the doops who bought the collectors version I can not see myself spending any money on this game until I see it this time.
I like FFXIV. I don't know about everyone else, but it's similar to FFXI, but easier (well the old FFXI). Before you could match levels in FFXI, you used to sit around at "camps" slaughtering numerous "Very Tough" monsters until your eyes and/or fingers bled. At least in FFXIV the combat is faster, levels go by ALOT faster, and there is an actual storyline. FFXI didn't really have much of an immersive storyline. You'd do a quest, then a month later you'd be at the level to do the next quest. In FFXIV you can do the storyline quests and get to 50 in under a month. I like how you aren't really forced to group in FFXIV. You get more exp, and it is more fun, but when I want to just be alone, I can.
Edit: The only thing I absolutely hate about FFXIV is the updater. It's the only game I've ever had to actually manually use port fowarding. Why? I haven't a clue, but the updater is just horrible. I just go find a torrent of the patches hehe.
I come to these Final Fantasy threads just to read the infamous die hards that just cannot see wrong in their game. It's truly not bad but the article is pretty much dead on, like it always has been.
Sorry, your CEO said that your game really hurt the brand. That is far from a positive statement.
I come to these Final Fantasy threads just to read the infamous die hards that just cannot see wrong in their game. It's truly not bad but the article is pretty much dead on, like it always has been.
Sorry, your CEO said that your game really hurt the brand. That is far from a positive statement.
yeah, because Wada has always been right isn't it? Or maybe he's right only when it's convenient for you?
on the contrary FFXIV did a lot of good for the Final Fantasy brand, as it forced Square Enix to start listening to their playerbase, on the long run, this can only be positive.
of course the most nearsighted will miss this little but critical detail.
It's always massively funny to see the infamous haters (including those that happen to write for this site) scrambling to try and bash the game at every patch, probably panicking because it's improving so much, and at the moment is definitely on par with many others, and well set to improve further.
They invested so much emotionally and personally in bashing this game that they're now frightened by the idea of it becoming good.
LOL? What you see as a hater I see as the opinion of the majority. Since that is the case that means you are one of the diehards that can't see the game for what it is. I'm a huge FF fan going back to the first ff and the ones on the gameboy all the way to when I was older playing ffvi, ffvii and even ffxi. I don't like your precious, at all I mean I've liked most everything w/ the name Final Fantasy on it and I hate the game its not that I'm a hater I just see the game for what it is. The reviewers here are doing the same thing and if you would take off your rose colored shades for a moment you would realize that.
Let me reverse the question for a moment, what makes the game so good? Seriously help all us haters out that can't see the gem that you see. I mean even square said it was a failure and apoligized but apparently you know better than the makers of the game is that it?
I've always gone under the impression that reviews are supposed to be unbiased? After reading this article and the article on patch 1.18 I've gotten the distinct impression that the 'reviewer' had already made up his mind that he didn't like the game before he did any sort of research for the articles. I fully admit that the FFXIV launch was terrible and that SE dropped the ball right out of the starting gate, but it seems to me that the 'reviewer' focused exclusively on the negative aspects of the experience and even downplayed those parts of the game that are good. Adam's 'sarcastic wit' strikes me as being 'smug arrogant jackass extrodinare'. If Adam can't understand the concept of being impartial and giving an unbiased review, I think it's time he found a new line of work. Writing a review isn't about pushing your personal views on people, and that's what his 'reviews' are all about.
For example he calls the gathering mini-games akin to torture. What's wrong with the minigames? If I'm going to play a class that's entire focus is gathering I'd like more than a simple 'one click harvest' method of gathering that most other MMO's employ. Having a minigame requires I actually concentrate on what I'm doing. Yes, for someone who's mindless or simply wanting constant action then yes, I'm sure it's boring, in which case maybe a gathering type class isn't the class you should be playing. Adam thinks they are torture, that's his opinion, I don't care what his opinion is, I care whether or not the game is improving and worth checking out again, and I can't trust his review to give me the information I need.
yeah, because Wada has always been right isn't it? Or maybe he's right only when it's convenient for you?
on the contrary FFXIV did a lot of good for the Final Fantasy brand, as it forced Square Enix to start listening to their playerbase, on the long run, this can only be positive.
of course the most nearsighted will miss this little but critical detail.
It's always massively funny to see the infamous haters (including those that happen to write for this site) scrambling to try and bash the game at every patch, probably panicking because it's improving so much, and at the moment is definitely on par with many others, and well set to improve further.
They invested so much emotionally and personally in bashing this game that they're now frightened by the idea of it becoming good.
Wada is the CEO of the company. I think he may know a bit more about the state of his business than you do, but there's some pretty clear indicators that FFXIV is still not a good game. There have been multiple apologies, people have been taken off the project, the company still lacks the confidence to charge for it, and just recently, Yoshi stated that he wouldn't consider it a Final Fantasy game, but it's about 50% of the way there.
Most haters don't randomly hate on this game; a lot of them have valid criticisms of the game such as the author of this article. When someone mentions anything negative about FFXIV, posters like you label them as a troll or hater. You're not doing yourself any favors by responding so negatively and becoming so defensive. Instead of having a fit of Asperger's, why don't you offer a different perspective, and no, "You're wrong!" doesn't count.
So, people that have gripes with the game are panicking and grasping at straws? That's the conclusion you've come to? Really? Some people who "hate" on the game want to see it actually become a good game.
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What about 1.19 Impressions in the title makes you think this is a re-review? We're just reporting a writer's impressions of a major game's content updates. Like it or not, the failure and attempted resurrection of FFXIV is big news in the industry and we'd be remiss if we didn't cover it. These aren't reviews. Reviews have big bold letters that state as much and also have scores and pros and cons to go along with them. These are akin to "First Impressions" pieces we run with many AAA games' content updates. Most recently last week's Rift 1.5 Impressions.
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imo 50$$ is still too high of a price for this game..no way will i pay 50$ for a game that still hasnt gotten fixed sence release
and as for it being / going to the ps3..imo i dont think its gonna make it..if they are haveing such problems with it on pc...i dont see em doing it on the ps3
knowing them they will scrap it and start plans on a new one
This actually could have ended the thread.
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The official review was posted in July 2011. Additionally, neither the v1.18 nor the v1.19 articles are reviews. The former was an opinion piece wondering if the game was any better. The latter clearly states in its title that it is an IMPRESSIONS piece.
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Patch 1.18 and 1.19 were both awesome and the game is headed in the right direction no doubt about it , i don't see what people expect them to fix about the game , its progressing fine , also its free monthly , cant beat that specialy when the game is still better tham most other mmorpg's out atm .
Better than most other MMORPG's out there? Surely you jest. FFXIV was the most boring, repetitive, unimmersive and uninspiring MMO I have played.
Not exactly a fair comparision at least SE's project leader/manager/concept designer/lead game designer did not launch himself into space in the middle of game launch.
Im talking since 1.18 and nothing before that , its got plenty to do and is fairly different tham most mmorpg clones made today so indeed my statement is true
Your opinion is true for yourself, and nothing more. You might enjoy this travesty of a game, but it is quite obvious that the game is not worth the cash to a far greater majority. Even without a monthly fee, the game continues to flounder, and impression pieces such as this echo the same opinions of the game in a broader spectrum.
SE completely missed the mark from the get go, and no update will bring in the masses. You only get one shot at a first impression.
Expressing an opinion in terms of an absolute does not make it true, just an opinion. Your opinion is not even shared for by a majority. Glad you enjoy the game, but it is not provenly or definitively better than most MMO's out there. I will move on now because this could go on forever.
Does this game still have he EXP limiter in place? That's the major turn off I got from this game.
Ready for GW2!!!
Still free to play? As it should be.
Good article.
I came to the exact same conclusions last time with patch 1.18 after I started playing again (and gave up again after a few days).
You only have to take a look at how obnoxiously bad the city design is in Uldah. I ran around there doing quests and stuff for several DAYS and still had to look on the map for navigation every 10 steps to know where I'm heading. Leves and combat are a joke and the UI still makes you feel as if you had no control over the game.
As time goes by I'm more and more astonished at the magnitude of pure condensed suckage that is FF14. I'm not hating here, I'm really genuinely astonished at the thought that this game released one year (!) ago and is being fixed since then in an ongoing effort and it still sucks more than other mmos who are in early alphas.
@jvxmtg nope. They removed that a while ago. Exping now is even too easy, that demonstrates that the "writer" of this article is a fake
was that someone saying something ? guess not , good day .
Semantics. Reviews or not, extremely negative (and in many parts misinformative and misleading) articles posted right before major patches are a laughable show of lack of professional attitude.
Add to this the plainly false information included in this "impressions" piece (you may want to have someone that actually holds some experience in a game write about it, it helps), and you get a quite sad scenario of disservice done to your readers.
Oh, and let me point out something else. The fact that the author of this "article" can't even get his own pictures (on a PC game that has a dedicated feature for screenshotting, lol), but has to use screenshots "courtesy of" someone else, is rather ridiculous, and shows how much credibility he has in his "impressions" about the game.
ff XIV is f2p?
You have to buy the client , which i got from gamestop for 15$ and it has a subscription model like most pay to play mmorpg's, but they are not currently charging players to play so yes once you buy it its free.
I bought this game at launch, and like most quickly stoped playing. With that said if they make improvments and go FTP I would give it another try as I love the FF IP. With that said as bad as this game was a launch, and being I am one of the doops who bought the collectors version I can not see myself spending any money on this game until I see it this time.
I like FFXIV. I don't know about everyone else, but it's similar to FFXI, but easier (well the old FFXI). Before you could match levels in FFXI, you used to sit around at "camps" slaughtering numerous "Very Tough" monsters until your eyes and/or fingers bled. At least in FFXIV the combat is faster, levels go by ALOT faster, and there is an actual storyline. FFXI didn't really have much of an immersive storyline. You'd do a quest, then a month later you'd be at the level to do the next quest. In FFXIV you can do the storyline quests and get to 50 in under a month. I like how you aren't really forced to group in FFXIV. You get more exp, and it is more fun, but when I want to just be alone, I can.
Edit: The only thing I absolutely hate about FFXIV is the updater. It's the only game I've ever had to actually manually use port fowarding. Why? I haven't a clue, but the updater is just horrible. I just go find a torrent of the patches hehe.
I come to these Final Fantasy threads just to read the infamous die hards that just cannot see wrong in their game. It's truly not bad but the article is pretty much dead on, like it always has been.
Sorry, your CEO said that your game really hurt the brand. That is far from a positive statement.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
LOL? What you see as a hater I see as the opinion of the majority. Since that is the case that means you are one of the diehards that can't see the game for what it is. I'm a huge FF fan going back to the first ff and the ones on the gameboy all the way to when I was older playing ffvi, ffvii and even ffxi. I don't like your precious, at all I mean I've liked most everything w/ the name Final Fantasy on it and I hate the game its not that I'm a hater I just see the game for what it is. The reviewers here are doing the same thing and if you would take off your rose colored shades for a moment you would realize that.
Let me reverse the question for a moment, what makes the game so good? Seriously help all us haters out that can't see the gem that you see. I mean even square said it was a failure and apoligized but apparently you know better than the makers of the game is that it?
I've always gone under the impression that reviews are supposed to be unbiased? After reading this article and the article on patch 1.18 I've gotten the distinct impression that the 'reviewer' had already made up his mind that he didn't like the game before he did any sort of research for the articles. I fully admit that the FFXIV launch was terrible and that SE dropped the ball right out of the starting gate, but it seems to me that the 'reviewer' focused exclusively on the negative aspects of the experience and even downplayed those parts of the game that are good. Adam's 'sarcastic wit' strikes me as being 'smug arrogant jackass extrodinare'. If Adam can't understand the concept of being impartial and giving an unbiased review, I think it's time he found a new line of work. Writing a review isn't about pushing your personal views on people, and that's what his 'reviews' are all about.
For example he calls the gathering mini-games akin to torture. What's wrong with the minigames? If I'm going to play a class that's entire focus is gathering I'd like more than a simple 'one click harvest' method of gathering that most other MMO's employ. Having a minigame requires I actually concentrate on what I'm doing. Yes, for someone who's mindless or simply wanting constant action then yes, I'm sure it's boring, in which case maybe a gathering type class isn't the class you should be playing. Adam thinks they are torture, that's his opinion, I don't care what his opinion is, I care whether or not the game is improving and worth checking out again, and I can't trust his review to give me the information I need.
Wada is the CEO of the company. I think he may know a bit more about the state of his business than you do, but there's some pretty clear indicators that FFXIV is still not a good game. There have been multiple apologies, people have been taken off the project, the company still lacks the confidence to charge for it, and just recently, Yoshi stated that he wouldn't consider it a Final Fantasy game, but it's about 50% of the way there.
Most haters don't randomly hate on this game; a lot of them have valid criticisms of the game such as the author of this article. When someone mentions anything negative about FFXIV, posters like you label them as a troll or hater. You're not doing yourself any favors by responding so negatively and becoming so defensive. Instead of having a fit of Asperger's, why don't you offer a different perspective, and no, "You're wrong!" doesn't count.
So, people that have gripes with the game are panicking and grasping at straws? That's the conclusion you've come to? Really? Some people who "hate" on the game want to see it actually become a good game.