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  • nomrawnomraw Member Posts: 146

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx

    Originally posted by nomraw


    Originally posted by xS0u1zx


    Originally posted by jadedlevir

    Wow didn't invent fantasy, so I fail to see how gw2 using traditonal fantasy aspects in there game (art and lore mind you) means it's wow 2.0. The so called "worgen buildings" are based on actual architecture btw, wow didn't invent that either.( I couldn't even find what buildings you were refering, but thought I'd throw that in there).

     

    I think it was the castle like theme that I caught with the animal humanoids walking around that to me reminded me of Gilneas.

    Dear Soul,

    Does Canada remind you of America? Does a Donkey remind you of a Horse?

    Ty

    You know as a Canadian I can say yes in many ways it does remind me of America.    A donkey also has many similar features that a horse possesses.   No neither things are alike in both questions, but they have their simularities.  Which can cause someone to be reminded of one or the other in a non extremist way.

    No offence, but you seriously have something failing in the head.

  • CorehavenCorehaven Member UncommonPosts: 1,533

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx

    Originally posted by Distopia

    The OP like many on this site simply can't see past WOW, I don't care what game it is, if all you can think of to compare it to is WOW. The problem doesn't rest on the shoulders of anyone or anything but yourself. You're simply suffering from tunnel vision be it through a severe hatred for WOW or too much time spent in WOW ( that or you let popular forum banter form your thoughts for you, which is worse than either). If you use the term WOW clone to describe anything I simply can't take what you say seriously.

    Never used the term.   Once again I simply stated it was what I was reminded of. 

     

    Now here's the thing, there was a time I did enjoy playing world of warcraft.  It was rather enjoyable at one time and definitely will be hard to replace, not having played it in over 8 months I've been on an active search to find an interesting game that can give me the same gratitude that wow had once given me.

    A simple question comes to mind about time/investment and if it's worth given another main stream game the effort I once put into another game.   Yes I enjoyed Eve but not a fan of how it's currently being played out right now and yes the same goes for current Wow.   Since Cata the game was no longer appealing to me, for multiple reasons.

    Anyway, going back on topic.   Even if this game was a wow clone, or not a clone it hardly matters.  What matters if it can provide someone the same entertainment and the same feeling of gratitude while playing it and if the money they are spending is worth it.   In a way I hope guild wars 2 has similar features to wow, cause at least I enjoyed playing it unlike many others.  

    The main fact is I was taken off guard with how much the trailer reminded me of it, I honestly felt a little excited in a way.  To know that I might be able to get that same enjoyment I had long ago when I played a similar type game.    I play games to have fun and if I can manage to find another one that I can deem just as fun then I'm all for it.

     

    Okay then why did you seem to be sarcastically complaining about it in the OP?  That makes no sense. 

     

    If I tell you the game isnt like WoW is that going to dissapoint you then?  Or no....because you are hoping it IS like WoW....right? 

     

    You're just going back and forth at this point.  The game doesnt play like WoW at all.  The mechanics are totally different. 

     

    Weapons affect your skills.  Questing is no where near the same.  You can color and dye armor to your liking.  There are dynamic events that scale depending on player participation.  Swimming and underwater combat is nothing the same.  Side activities include bar brawls etc.  There are ways to interact with the world, such as throwing your mug of brew you've been drinking at someones head.  There are dodge mechanics and positioning matters.  The list just goes on and on.  I leave it to you to find out the rest of differences. 

     

    There are some simularities.  The game has classes.  The game is set in a fantasy setting.  But if this looks like WoW to you, then so does every single fantasy game in existence.  Its already long known and understood that GW 1 is nothing like WoW and GW2 will be the same.  They play totally differently. 

     

    Having said that, does that make you sad its not like WoW?  Or happy?  I cant tell.  You seem to have taken opposite stances in the thread already.   You're not really making sense at this point. 

  • Saxx0nSaxx0n PR/Brand Manager BitBox Ltd.Member UncommonPosts: 999

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx

    I'm not an idiot..

     

  • xS0u1zxxS0u1zx Member Posts: 209

    Originally posted by nomraw

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx


    Originally posted by nomraw


    Originally posted by xS0u1zx


    Originally posted by jadedlevir

    Wow didn't invent fantasy, so I fail to see how gw2 using traditonal fantasy aspects in there game (art and lore mind you) means it's wow 2.0. The so called "worgen buildings" are based on actual architecture btw, wow didn't invent that either.( I couldn't even find what buildings you were refering, but thought I'd throw that in there).

     

    I think it was the castle like theme that I caught with the animal humanoids walking around that to me reminded me of Gilneas.

    Dear Soul,

    Does Canada remind you of America? Does a Donkey remind you of a Horse?

    Ty

    You know as a Canadian I can say yes in many ways it does remind me of America.    A donkey also has many similar features that a horse possesses.   No neither things are alike in both questions, but they have their simularities.  Which can cause someone to be reminded of one or the other in a non extremist way.

    No offence, but you seriously have something failing in the head.

    Did you want me to draw you a portrait in exactly how things are similar and why someone might perceive them as the same or be reminded of something with similar features?  

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  • CorehavenCorehaven Member UncommonPosts: 1,533

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx

    Originally posted by nomraw


    Originally posted by xS0u1zx


    Originally posted by nomraw


    Originally posted by xS0u1zx


    Originally posted by jadedlevir

    Wow didn't invent fantasy, so I fail to see how gw2 using traditonal fantasy aspects in there game (art and lore mind you) means it's wow 2.0. The so called "worgen buildings" are based on actual architecture btw, wow didn't invent that either.( I couldn't even find what buildings you were refering, but thought I'd throw that in there).

     

    I think it was the castle like theme that I caught with the animal humanoids walking around that to me reminded me of Gilneas.

    Dear Soul,

    Does Canada remind you of America? Does a Donkey remind you of a Horse?

    Ty

    You know as a Canadian I can say yes in many ways it does remind me of America.    A donkey also has many similar features that a horse possesses.   No neither things are alike in both questions, but they have their simularities.  Which can cause someone to be reminded of one or the other in a non extremist way.

    No offence, but you seriously have something failing in the head.

    Did you want me to draw you a portrait in exactly how things are similar and why someone might perceive them as the same or be reminded of something with similar features?  

     

    Yes Charr look kind of like Worgen, but were a part of the GW universe long before Worgen were added to WoW.  Silvari are small....like gnomes.  There are no elves in the game, but yes there is an elvish type race.   If you think the cities look anything like WoW thats the biggest laugh for me.  Oh you mean they both look medieval!  OOooohhh......okay.  Thats because its a fantasy game. 

     

    Similar features?  How?  What similar features?  Like....they both have combat (buts its very different), or that players in both games can swim (also handled very differently).  Oh both games have instances too.......

     

    Its an mmorpg.  Go figure.  But its doing things quite a bit differently which Im more than glad for.  Its about time. 

  • xS0u1zxxS0u1zx Member Posts: 209

    Originally posted by Corehaven

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx


    Originally posted by Distopia

    The OP like many on this site simply can't see past WOW, I don't care what game it is, if all you can think of to compare it to is WOW. The problem doesn't rest on the shoulders of anyone or anything but yourself. You're simply suffering from tunnel vision be it through a severe hatred for WOW or too much time spent in WOW ( that or you let popular forum banter form your thoughts for you, which is worse than either). If you use the term WOW clone to describe anything I simply can't take what you say seriously.

    Never used the term.   Once again I simply stated it was what I was reminded of. 

     

    Now here's the thing, there was a time I did enjoy playing world of warcraft.  It was rather enjoyable at one time and definitely will be hard to replace, not having played it in over 8 months I've been on an active search to find an interesting game that can give me the same gratitude that wow had once given me.

    A simple question comes to mind about time/investment and if it's worth given another main stream game the effort I once put into another game.   Yes I enjoyed Eve but not a fan of how it's currently being played out right now and yes the same goes for current Wow.   Since Cata the game was no longer appealing to me, for multiple reasons.

    Anyway, going back on topic.   Even if this game was a wow clone, or not a clone it hardly matters.  What matters if it can provide someone the same entertainment and the same feeling of gratitude while playing it and if the money they are spending is worth it.   In a way I hope guild wars 2 has similar features to wow, cause at least I enjoyed playing it unlike many others.  

    The main fact is I was taken off guard with how much the trailer reminded me of it, I honestly felt a little excited in a way.  To know that I might be able to get that same enjoyment I had long ago when I played a similar type game.    I play games to have fun and if I can manage to find another one that I can deem just as fun then I'm all for it.

     

    Okay then why did you seem to be sarcastically complaining about it in the OP?  That makes no sense. 

     

    If I tell you the game isnt like WoW is that going to dissapoint you then?  Or no....because you are hoping it IS like WoW....right? 

     

    You're just going back and forth at this point.  The game doesnt play like WoW at all.  The mechanics are totally different. 

     

    Weapons affect your skills.  Questing is no where near the same.  You can color and dye armor to your liking.  There are dynamic events that scale depending on player participation.  Swimming and underwater combat is nothing the same.  Side activities include bar brawls etc.  There are ways to interact with the world, such as throwing your mug of brew you've been drinking at someones head.  There are dodge mechanics and positioning matters.  The list just goes on and on.  I leave it to you to find out the rest of differences. 

     

    There are some simularities.  The game has classes.  The game is set in a fantasy setting.  But if this looks like WoW to you, then so does every single fantasy game in existence.  Its already long known and understood that GW 1 is nothing like WoW and GW2 will be the same.  They play totally differently. 

     

    Having said that, does that make you sad its not like WoW?  Or happy?  I cant tell.  You seem to have taken opposite stances in the thread already.   You're not really making sense at this point. 

    Oh I'm not looking for an exact copy of the game.   But something that offers me what wow did when I enjoyed playing it.  I can go in circles trying to explain it to you but you won't get it regardless.    I wasn't whining in my original post, or being sarcastic.   I was simply just saying how shocked I was with how similar the game seemed to me.   Yes the games have their differences but shit there was even serpent humanoids (aka naga from wow) in that video.  That was one of the many things that just said.   "Hey, this looks familier... Nice.  Although I hope this game isn't too much like it"   I stated my very first impression of guild wars 2 based on a trailer.   Nothing more or less then that.

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  • BoqokBoqok Member Posts: 15

    There are two kinds of threads that keep me coming back here.  One kind has either an interesting point of view on a game, or thought provoking idea.  The other....  hehehe  priceless.

    That being said,  I would have read all the posts in this thread, but after I read the first few it dawned on me that they were all constructed of the same kind of letters on a black background.  Obviously there was nothing different in any of them, so I quit reading them.

    O_O

     

     

     

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by graham187

    So your saying your stating your opinion but not because you care if anybody takes it into consideration. Why would you state an opinion when you could care less about the end result of that opinion.

    For myself I tried WoW, didn't think much off it and even though I have enjoyed other Blizzard offerings never felt compelled to give them any money for that offering. I didn't play far enough in the game to say GW2 is the same as WoW, but I wouldn't render an opinion about whether it was or not based on 1/2 of a trailer without knowing what the game had to offer that could make itself stand out.

    No, but maybe you should have watched a little more before starting a thread about the whole thing.

    If you just watch a vid of any game you would think it looks a lot like many other games. You miss all real differances except clearly visual ones.

    The combat in games like EQ, Wow, AoC and Tera looks pretty similar if you just see a vid of them, yet the strategy and how you do the actual combat are very different.

    You can't really see how no tanking makes combat rather different since it forces you to keep a closer check on all mobs instead of just letting the tank taunt all the mobs. 

    What you can see is that the view is indeed the same 3rd person view that Wow and most other MMOs use. You can see that there is mobs around and people fighting them, there is a keybar with some fastkeys under and so on. In that aspect it do indeed look like Wow, or rather Meridian 59 that was the first MMO using those things.

    But that is really no good reason to start a thread about it. If you had watched a PvP vid instead for instances you would have seen very different combat from Wows battlegrounds. 

    Please read up on the game and I gladly will discuss it's likeness with Wow and other games, but right now it is like discussing Mozart with someone who heard the first 5 minutes of requiem, no disrespect meant.

    There are indeed some things GW2 have in common with Wow and I personally wish they would have been more revolutionary. But GW2 still is one of the furthest MMOs from Wow that releases the next few year, particularly with good budget and made by an experienced crew.

  • CorehavenCorehaven Member UncommonPosts: 1,533

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx

    Oh I'm not looking for an exact copy of the game.   But something that offers me what wow did when I enjoyed playing it.  I can go in circles trying to explain it to you but you won't get it regardless.    I wasn't whining in my original post, or being sarcastic.   I was simply just saying how shocked I was with how similar the game seemed to me.   Yes the games have their differences but shit there was even serpent humanoids (aka naga from wow) in that video.  That was one of the many things that just said.   "Hey, this looks familier... Nice.  Although I hope this game isn't too much like it"   I stated my very first impression of guild wars 2 based on a trailer.   Nothing more or less then that.

     

    "I never finished watching the trailer, cause I'm laughing too much in amazement.   I just wish I knew why the hell they were copying so much from wow"  - taken from OP 

     

    Whats funny to most here is that its nothing like WoW.  Do your research next time.  And Im sorry to dissapoint you. So you might not enjoy it. 

     

    Swtor has WoW type mechanics.  So there's that if it floats your boat.  But even that game has some differences. 

  • KonyakKonyak Member Posts: 156

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx

    Originally posted by Konyak

    Says the guy that failed trolling by posting this exact same thread in the EVE section. Lol. Nobody should give a crap about this guy or his views. He's just looking for attention.

    I clicked the new thread button without realizing exactly what feed I was located in.   Simple human error, get over yourself

    You're telling me to get over myself? Are you serious? You created a thread in the GW2 section(after failing by posting the same thing in a different part of the forum) stating your opinion, a skewed one by the way, on how two games supposedly look exactly alike, then refuse to aknowledge other people's responses that trump your uneducated opinion in every way.

    You gave birth to a discussion that has no point. You just wanted attention and you wanted to make some people mad. Nobody makes threads like these unless that's what they want. I could go to any other MMO game's part of the forum and type up an entire novel on how that game is just like WoW. And guaranteed there's MMOs like it. But I don't because I'm not looking for attention nor am I trying to make people mad. Get over yourself buddy.

  • xS0u1zxxS0u1zx Member Posts: 209

    Originally posted by Konyak

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx


    Originally posted by Konyak

    Says the guy that failed trolling by posting this exact same thread in the EVE section. Lol. Nobody should give a crap about this guy or his views. He's just looking for attention.

    I clicked the new thread button without realizing exactly what feed I was located in.   Simple human error, get over yourself

    You're telling me to get over myself? Are you serious? You created a thread in the GW2 section(after failing by posting the same thing in a different part of the forum) stating your opinion, a skewed one by the way, on how two games supposedly look exactly alike, then refuse to aknowledge other people's responses that trump your uneducated opinion in every way.

    You gave birth to a discussion that has no point. You just wanted attention and you wanted to make some people mad. Nobody makes threads like these unless that's what they want. I could go to any other MMO game's part of the forum and type up an entire novel on how that game is just like WoW. And guaranteed there's MMOs like it. But I don't because I'm not looking for attention nor am I trying to make people mad. Get over yourself buddy.

    If I wanted attention I would have made more then 3 threads in 4 years.   Secondly, I have acknowledged damn near everyone's response to what I have said or did you not read that far?    What I said is something I legitmately thought, regardless if it was right or wrong and wanted to see other people's views on it.

    The purpose of a forum is to gain insight on something you don't understand, or to see if others might share your opinion or might help you expand on your current ones.

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  • taylor2144taylor2144 Member Posts: 64

    Obvious troll is obvious

  • xS0u1zxxS0u1zx Member Posts: 209

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by graham187

    So your saying your stating your opinion but not because you care if anybody takes it into consideration. Why would you state an opinion when you could care less about the end result of that opinion.

    For myself I tried WoW, didn't think much off it and even though I have enjoyed other Blizzard offerings never felt compelled to give them any money for that offering. I didn't play far enough in the game to say GW2 is the same as WoW, but I wouldn't render an opinion about whether it was or not based on 1/2 of a trailer without knowing what the game had to offer that could make itself stand out.

    No, but maybe you should have watched a little more before starting a thread about the whole thing.

    If you just watch a vid of any game you would think it looks a lot like many other games. You miss all real differances except clearly visual ones.

    The combat in games like EQ, Wow, AoC and Tera looks pretty similar if you just see a vid of them, yet the strategy and how you do the actual combat are very different.

    You can't really see how no tanking makes combat rather different since it forces you to keep a closer check on all mobs instead of just letting the tank taunt all the mobs. 

    What you can see is that the view is indeed the same 3rd person view that Wow and most other MMOs use. You can see that there is mobs around and people fighting them, there is a keybar with some fastkeys under and so on. In that aspect it do indeed look like Wow, or rather Meridian 59 that was the first MMO using those things.

    But that is really no good reason to start a thread about it. If you had watched a PvP vid instead for instances you would have seen very different combat from Wows battlegrounds. 

    Please read up on the game and I gladly will discuss it's likeness with Wow and other games, but right now it is like discussing Mozart with someone who heard the first 5 minutes of requiem, no disrespect meant.

    There are indeed some things GW2 have in common with Wow and I personally wish they would have been more revolutionary. But GW2 still is one of the furthest MMOs from Wow that releases the next few year, particularly with good budget and made by an experienced crew.

    I agree with what you said.   However I really meant only to present my interpretation and yes I should have watched more of the trailer.    But there is no way I would ever do research on a game spending hours on it if it turned out It wasn't even interesting.     Worse case, I go and do all kinds of research and get excited for a launch.  Spend countless hours then realize the game completely sucks and I just wasted a shitload of my time on something that doesn't work out.

    Yes I know you've seen that happen all too often, thus is why I created a thread and wanted to see if I was the only one that had the same thoughts as I did.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx

    Originally posted by Distopia

    The OP like many on this site simply can't see past WOW, I don't care what game it is, if all you can think of to compare it to is WOW. The problem doesn't rest on the shoulders of anyone or anything but yourself. You're simply suffering from tunnel vision be it through a severe hatred for WOW or too much time spent in WOW ( that or you let popular forum banter form your thoughts for you, which is worse than either). If you use the term WOW clone to describe anything I simply can't take what you say seriously.

    Never used the term.   Once again I simply stated it was what I was reminded of. 

     

    Now here's the thing, there was a time I did enjoy playing world of warcraft.  It was rather enjoyable at one time and definitely will be hard to replace, not having played it in over 8 months I've been on an active search to find an interesting game that can give me the same gratitude that wow had once given me.

    A simple question comes to mind about time/investment and if it's worth given another main stream game the effort I once put into another game.   Yes I enjoyed Eve but not a fan of how it's currently being played out right now and yes the same goes for current Wow.   Since Cata the game was no longer appealing to me, for multiple reasons.

    Anyway, going back on topic.   Even if this game was a wow clone, or not a clone it hardly matters.  What matters if it can provide someone the same entertainment and the same feeling of gratitude while playing it and if the money they are spending is worth it.   In a way I hope guild wars 2 has similar features to wow, cause at least I enjoyed playing it unlike many others.  

    The main fact is I was taken off guard with how much the trailer reminded me of it, I honestly felt a little excited in a way.  To know that I might be able to get that same enjoyment I had long ago when I played a similar type game.    I play games to have fun and if I can manage to find another one that I can deem just as fun then I'm all for it.

    No one can tell you what you see, so I'd advise ignoring those jumping on you about what you see. That said, I don't think it's fair to compare everything to WOW as you have, on an artistic level.

    I understand what you're saying here, and I don't think it's all that outlandish as things in videos have reminded me of typical fantasy archetypes , again though is it a fair comparison to say it's just like WOW? Not entirely IMO.

    Reason being WOW didn't invent any of that. Just about everything within WOW was copied, just like A-net, just like gamesworkshop, just like Verant, just like in some regard Tolkien..

    These images are simply what has become staples of the medium, just like green boil faced reptile-like humanoids or space ships are a part of typical Sci-fi vision. We've been conditioned to relate those images with those mediums that's just how things are. 

    My problem is where people seemingly give WOW all credit for those images, it just doesn't make sense if you're not enveloped into WOW as I said above.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • graham187graham187 Member Posts: 20

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by graham187

    So your saying your stating your opinion but not because you care if anybody takes it into consideration. Why would you state an opinion when you could care less about the end result of that opinion.

    For myself I tried WoW, didn't think much off it and even though I have enjoyed other Blizzard offerings never felt compelled to give them any money for that offering. I didn't play far enough in the game to say GW2 is the same as WoW, but I wouldn't render an opinion about whether it was or not based on 1/2 of a trailer without knowing what the game had to offer that could make itself stand out.

    No, but maybe you should have watched a little more before starting a thread about the whole thing.

    If you just watch a vid of any game you would think it looks a lot like many other games. You miss all real differances except clearly visual ones.

    The combat in games like EQ, Wow, AoC and Tera looks pretty similar if you just see a vid of them, yet the strategy and how you do the actual combat are very different.

    You can't really see how no tanking makes combat rather different since it forces you to keep a closer check on all mobs instead of just letting the tank taunt all the mobs. 

    What you can see is that the view is indeed the same 3rd person view that Wow and most other MMOs use. You can see that there is mobs around and people fighting them, there is a keybar with some fastkeys under and so on. In that aspect it do indeed look like Wow, or rather Meridian 59 that was the first MMO using those things.

    But that is really no good reason to start a thread about it. If you had watched a PvP vid instead for instances you would have seen very different combat from Wows battlegrounds. 

    Please read up on the game and I gladly will discuss it's likeness with Wow and other games, but right now it is like discussing Mozart with someone who heard the first 5 minutes of requiem, no disrespect meant.

    There are indeed some things GW2 have in common with Wow and I personally wish they would have been more revolutionary. But GW2 still is one of the furthest MMOs from Wow that releases the next few year, particularly with good budget and made by an experienced crew.

    That contradicts your original post; if you felt after watching the trailer it looked and felt like WoW that is you opinion to make; however wrong it was perceived by the public. But now your stating you can't judge the game by just a watching a complete trailer.. confused? yes please.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx

    I agree with what you said.   However I really meant only to present my interpretation and yes I should have watched more of the trailer.    But there is no way I would ever do research on a game spending hours on it if it turned out It wasn't even interesting.     Worse case, I go and do all kinds of research and get excited for a launch.  Spend countless hours then realize the game completely sucks and I just wasted a shitload of my time on something that doesn't work out.

    Yes I know you've seen that happen all too often, thus is why I created a thread and wanted to see if I was the only one that had the same thoughts as I did.

    I can understand that, no problem. But in future you shouldn't make threads about it in that case. It kinda upsets people for no good reason at all.

    My tip is to only start threads about stuff you either have good knowledge about or to ask for such knowledge. Keeps the forum more interesting, :)

  • ZorgoZorgo Member UncommonPosts: 2,254

    I agree with the OP. It is fantasy-styled avatars in a fantasy-style world. Exactly the same. In fact, as the OP indicates, there is only room for one of these games, the original, WoW. WoW invented fantasy styled worlds and fantasy styled avatars; there never was a game, book or movie prior to that using this setting -

    I mean really.....fighting classes, magic classes.....who are they trying to fool?

    WoW clone.

  • KonyakKonyak Member Posts: 156

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx

    Originally posted by Konyak


    Originally posted by xS0u1zx


    Originally posted by Konyak

    Says the guy that failed trolling by posting this exact same thread in the EVE section. Lol. Nobody should give a crap about this guy or his views. He's just looking for attention.

    I clicked the new thread button without realizing exactly what feed I was located in.   Simple human error, get over yourself

    You're telling me to get over myself? Are you serious? You created a thread in the GW2 section(after failing by posting the same thing in a different part of the forum) stating your opinion, a skewed one by the way, on how two games supposedly look exactly alike, then refuse to aknowledge other people's responses that trump your uneducated opinion in every way.

    You gave birth to a discussion that has no point. You just wanted attention and you wanted to make some people mad. Nobody makes threads like these unless that's what they want. I could go to any other MMO game's part of the forum and type up an entire novel on how that game is just like WoW. And guaranteed there's MMOs like it. But I don't because I'm not looking for attention nor am I trying to make people mad. Get over yourself buddy.

    If I wanted attention I would have made more then 3 threads in 4 years.   Secondly, I have acknowledged damn near everyone's response to what I have said or did you not read that far?    What I said is something I legitmately thought, regardless if it was right or wrong and wanted to see other people's views on it.

    The purpose of a forum is to gain insight on something you don't understand, or to see if others might share your opinion or might help you expand on your current ones.

    You want to know how I gain insight on something I don't understand? I educate myself by looking up information about it. You see the sticky threads? That's all the information you need. Then you can actually contribute to threads that aren't pointless like this one.

    And I like how you get frustrated at the fact that supposedly I didn't read far enough into this thread to know if you aknowledged other people. Next time, don't make a thread after watching 30 seconds of a 5 minute trailer.

    The only time I would ever make a thread is if I knew quite a bit about it. Ignorant people make ignorant threads. Like this one. You call this game WoW 2.0 and expect me to believe you weren't trolling? That's laughable. Everyone here knows GW2 doesn't look like WoW. Making a thread like this causes a shit storm because of that fact.

  • xS0u1zxxS0u1zx Member Posts: 209

    Originally posted by Distopia

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx


    Originally posted by Distopia

    The OP like many on this site simply can't see past WOW, I don't care what game it is, if all you can think of to compare it to is WOW. The problem doesn't rest on the shoulders of anyone or anything but yourself. You're simply suffering from tunnel vision be it through a severe hatred for WOW or too much time spent in WOW ( that or you let popular forum banter form your thoughts for you, which is worse than either). If you use the term WOW clone to describe anything I simply can't take what you say seriously.

    Never used the term.   Once again I simply stated it was what I was reminded of. 

     

    Now here's the thing, there was a time I did enjoy playing world of warcraft.  It was rather enjoyable at one time and definitely will be hard to replace, not having played it in over 8 months I've been on an active search to find an interesting game that can give me the same gratitude that wow had once given me.

    A simple question comes to mind about time/investment and if it's worth given another main stream game the effort I once put into another game.   Yes I enjoyed Eve but not a fan of how it's currently being played out right now and yes the same goes for current Wow.   Since Cata the game was no longer appealing to me, for multiple reasons.

    Anyway, going back on topic.   Even if this game was a wow clone, or not a clone it hardly matters.  What matters if it can provide someone the same entertainment and the same feeling of gratitude while playing it and if the money they are spending is worth it.   In a way I hope guild wars 2 has similar features to wow, cause at least I enjoyed playing it unlike many others.  

    The main fact is I was taken off guard with how much the trailer reminded me of it, I honestly felt a little excited in a way.  To know that I might be able to get that same enjoyment I had long ago when I played a similar type game.    I play games to have fun and if I can manage to find another one that I can deem just as fun then I'm all for it.

    No one can tell you what you see, so I'd advise ignoring those jumping on you about what you see. That said, I don't think it's fair to compare everything to WOW as you have, on an artistic level.

    I understand what you're saying here, and I don't think it's all that outlandish as things in videos have reminded me of typical fantasy archetypes , again though is it a fair comparison to say it's just like WOW? Not entirely IMO.

    Reason being WOW didn't invent any of that. Just about everything within WOW was copied, just like A-net, just like gamesworkshop, just like Verant, just like in some regard Tolkien..

    These images are simply what has become staples of the medium, just like green boil faced reptile-like humanoids or space ships are a part of typical Sci-fi vision. We've been conditioned to relate those images with those mediums that's just how things are. 

    My problem is where people seemingly give WOW all credit for those images, it just doesn't make sense if you're not enveloped into WOW as I said above.

    Well I am well aware wow took elements from various different games, including the original guild wars from what I've read.   But I am more familier with wow then I am of most other games, thus is why I was immediately reminded of that specific game as it was the one that most appealed to me.    Perhaps I shouldn't have said what I did in an extreme way cause I definitely didn't mean it that way.  

    It would be like throwing a ball of paint on the wall, at first it might seem a certain color only throwing one.   But after consistant bombardments of the same color and features eventually the thing is going to look that exact color.  Even though there's many parts that are still different, the overall look resembles what it was just hit with.    In my case I was hit with a lot of wow flashbacks, thus is why I stated what I did.    Wow being simply because it's what I'm more familier with, if I played the original guild wars I would have said the exact same thing when wow launched.

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by graham187

    That contradicts your original post; if you felt after watching the trailer it looked and felt like WoW that is you opinion to make; however wrong it was perceived by the public. But now your stating you can't just the game by just a watching a complete trailer.. confused? yes please.

    What? That was to my knowledge my original post in this thread. I think you answered the wrong post there.

    My feeling is still that watching a short vid might give you that impression but that you shouldn't start a thread on how a game looks like another just by that.

    And you could judge a game based on a single vid, you shouldn't but that is a different matter.

  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777

    Originally posted by Loke666

    I can understand that, no problem. But in future you shouldn't make threads about it in that case. It kinda upsets people for no good reason at all.

    My tip is to only start threads about stuff you either have good knowledge about or to ask for such knowledge. Keeps the forum more interesting, :)

     

    Kinda upsets people?  Are you serious?  How could any rational adult get upset because some stranger posted an opinion about a game looking a lot like WoW? 

    These forums are  all about opinion.  Don't limit your threads just because you might upset someone with a thought.  Believe me... they'll get over it 3 seconds after they walk away from their computer. 

     

  • MajinashMajinash Member Posts: 1,320

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx

      What I said is something I legitmately thought

    I don't believe that, I think you are just trying to get angry responses.  If you were posting what you legitmately thought, you wouldn't be so inconsistent.

    Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.

  • VorthanionVorthanion Member RarePosts: 2,749

    Originally posted by xS0u1zx

    I'm sorry but I am simply in amazment and pretty surprised.    I just watched the trailer of Guild Wars 2 from their website http://www.guildwars2.com/en/.   All I have to say is, World of Warcraft version 2.

     

    Now I don't say that out of hate or to troll, but while watching that video it's what was constantly screaming out to me in my mind.  It was like watching world of warcraft with a complete skin remap.    They even have the same style of classes, races, freaking enemies.  HELL even towns/cities look the same.   They got a night elf looking area with yes elves.  They got a worgan city that looks almost exactly the same as gilneas and yes it's filled with freaking worgans. 

     

    I never finished watching the trailer, cause I'm laughing too much in amazement.   I just wish I knew why the hell they were copying so much from wow

    Yes I know about the original Guild Wars, I never played it nor followed it and no wow was definitely far from my first mmo.  Just I would hope they could have at least made things a bit newer looking and refreshing.

     

     

    There is no night elvish area, it's a bright and colorful, nature oriented area populated by plant people, not elves.  Everyone does similar classes, long before WoW came out, thank you very much, but their take on them is a bit unique in how their abilities are put together and how they affect abilities of your group mates.  By the way, the Worgen were canine based, the Charr are feline and while I have never seen this Gilneas, it's not unusual for steampunk style content to be similar to  steampunk in other games or literature, it is after all, what makes it steampunk.

    Anyway, it's art design is very distinctive and while they didn't go with a realistic approach, stylistic, like WoW is stylistic, it is definitely not "just like" WoW either.  Maybe I don't have your jaundiced eye, but I find their art style, refreshing and different from anything out there.  I may prefer a more realistic art style, but I certainly appreciate what they've done and I do not have the gall to call it a copy of WoW when it most certainly is not.

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  • NerfmehNerfmeh Member UncommonPosts: 36

    I really cant understand how can u say that for GW2 ....i have played WoW for 3 years and i cant see any resemblance whatsoever

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Originally posted by Deathstrike2

    Originally posted by Loke666

    I can understand that, no problem. But in future you shouldn't make threads about it in that case. It kinda upsets people for no good reason at all.

    My tip is to only start threads about stuff you either have good knowledge about or to ask for such knowledge. Keeps the forum more interesting, :)

     

    Kinda upsets people?  Are you serious?  How could any rational adult get upset because some stranger posted an opinion about a game looking a lot like WoW? 

    These forums are  all about opinion.  Don't limit your threads just because you might upset someone with a thought.  Believe me... they'll get over it 3 seconds after they walk away from their computer. 

     

    I agree, the problem isn't the OP what he sees is what he sees, discuss that not the OP himself. The problem is those who name call and throw a fit because he said it.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


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