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  • RoldownRoldown Member Posts: 20



    Originally posted by kishe




    Originally posted by Roldown


    For all the "knoweledge" you have about your precious game, it's sure obvious that you are a dev. And I guess speaking with the irth irc would conclusively verify that you are not a dev, right? That's because, you're on the other end of the irth irc playing dumb about your kishe identity. But playing dumb isn't too much of a stretch if you are a dev of that game.


    Duh, is it too hard to understand some devs may keep their playerbase well informed?


    LOL.  "Duh" is very appropriate for you.  You think that your sad explanations can cover your pretense?

    If the hundreds in the playerbase are so well informed, how come you and your alts are the only ones who are constantly denying the release date with such conviction?  Did you muffle the rest of the playerbase and testers with your NDA? Or maybe they have simply boycotted this site as you have claimed in other threads?

    "Duh" indeed.  Try coming up with a better thought out explanation to cover your pretense.

  • IncoherentIncoherent Member Posts: 18

    Apparently you just can not reason with some people...

    Dude, you need medication, serisouly. THese illsuions of conspiracy theories against you and whatever you are trying to represent (I think it got lost in your flame posting) are usually a sign of a bi-polar disorder.

    THe release date on mmorpg.com is wrong. Whether is was a mistake on the devs side or a mistake on the site side or simply a miscommunication I do not know. Does it really matter?

    No one has boycotted this site. ALot of people come to the forums and game from this site. There are several thank you mmorpg.com threads on the forums from people. And if this was Said by Kishe, then Kishe was in the wrong.

     

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by Roldown
    For all the "knoweledge" you have about your precious game, it's sure obvious that you are a dev.  And I guess speaking with the irth irc would conclusively verify that you are not a dev, right?  That's because, you're on the other end of the irth irc playing dumb about your kishe identity.  But playing dumb isn't too much of a stretch if you are a dev of that game.




    Bud, whoever Kishe is, he has just as much right to be here as you. But first off, no dev would be caught dead here except to see just how far these boards have descended. And looking at your posts, its clear why. You are boxing with your own shadow if you think you can figure out someones identity. Let people like the game they wanna like and you can like the games you wanna like. That's what these boards are supposed to be about.

    Now, can you post without insulting someone? Every game has its problems, why don't you tell us your favorite game so we can all take the piss out of it? Irth Online is a game made by gamers for gamers and they aren't some big corporation. Do you really wanna stomp out creativity from people who are in a vulnerable position while huge corporations slide on making the same old crap year in and year out? I don't really think thats the person you want to be. Slamming a game in beta is deplorable, slamming a low budget game while its in beta is as low as it gets. Why not go kick a few puppys and make it a REALLY good day for yourself.image

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  • MeskorMeskor Member Posts: 28



    Originally posted by Incoherent
    Actually I can verify here and now Kishe is not a Dev. Neither am I. We are active members in the community however and the Devs in this game are very active in the community as well. Why would a person lie about being a dev? I could understand lieing to say you are when you aren't but the reverse? I just do not get this line of thinking.



    Oh okay, well then, I can verify that Roldown is telling the truth.  Kishe is behaving very much like a dev.

    You ask why would a dev pretend to be just a fanboi?  Because then a dev can shamelessly promote his "game" on this site.  And shamelessly make disparaging remarks about competing games like he has been.

  • IncoherentIncoherent Member Posts: 18

    But if everyone that came on here saying something was a good game and was accused of being a Dev shamlessy promoting their game, then why would a dev come on here pretending to be a nondev to talk about the game?

     

    Well as I said Kishe is not a Dev. If he is coming off as one then I can not help that.

     

    Also, Kishe is a person of his own and i can not controll him, but I do not believe anyone should put down another game. You don't like a game and want to talk about it. Say I dont preffer this game and say why. And if Kishe is the problem you are having why are you attacking the game? The game has said nothing about you or another game. As a matter of a fact the devs strongly discourage anyone posting on the forums trash talking of any other game. It's just not good mojo.

  • MeskorMeskor Member Posts: 28
    Cool, all of the irth alts are coming in on cue, as expected.  Are you gonna log in as another alt to make it more festive?
  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by Meskor


    Oh okay, well then, I can verify that Roldown is telling the truth.  Kishe is behaving very much like a dev.
    You ask why would a dev pretend to be just a fanboi?  Because then a dev can shamelessly promote his "game" on this site.  And shamelessly make disparaging remarks about competing games like he has been.



    You can't verify anything. Stop wasting your time here. Every post I have seen you make is bashing someone or something. We don't need any more trolls here, we're full up on crazy too. image

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  • IncoherentIncoherent Member Posts: 18
    Ok Meskor you win. THere are only two people in these entire forums me and you. All others are our alts. You feel better? Have a good day.
  • BobCrazytonBobCrazyton Member UncommonPosts: 2,117
    This thread is ganna get locked...I smell it.
  • MeskorMeskor Member Posts: 28



    Originally posted by anarchyart


    Bud, whoever Kishe is, he has just as much right to be here as you.



    Hi Tony.  Are you still at work as you claim?  Anyways, sure, no one ever said that devs can't post on this forum.  I don't know where you got that from.




    Originally posted by anarchyart


    Let people like the game they wanna like and you can like the games you wanna like. That's what these boards are supposed to be about.



    Sure, but I didn't see you post that gem of wisdom on that kishe poll.  I wonder why.image




    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Now, can you post without insulting someone?



    Talk about hypocrisy.  I've read some of your posts.  Maybe you should take your own advice.




    Originally posted by anarchyart


    Irth Online is a game made by gamers for gamers and they aren't some big corporation. Do you really wanna stomp out creativity from people who are in a vulnerable position while huge corporations slide on making the same old crap year in and year out? I don't really think thats the person you want to be. Slamming a game in beta is deplorable, slamming a low budget game while its in beta is as low as it gets.



    That's the same "fight the power" and "hooray for the underdog" line from all of the irth alts.




    Originally posted by anarchyart


    Why not go kick a few puppys and make it a REALLY good day for yourself.



    I like puppies.  I wouldn't do that.  I have more fun kicking around irth alts pretending to be fanbois.image

  • MeskorMeskor Member Posts: 28



    Originally posted by Incoherent
    Ok Meskor you win. THere are only two people in these entire forums me and you. All others are our alts. You feel better? Have a good day.


    Thanks.  Have a nice life.
  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378

    Why do you hate Irth online so much?

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  • SimSumSimSum Member Posts: 10



    Originally posted by kishe

    ...this thread makes baby jesus cry



    Kishe, are you changing your name to "baby jesus" now?  Want a creche to crawl into?
  • SimSumSimSum Member Posts: 10



    Originally posted by Roldown



    Originally posted by kishe


    I'm not irth developer, you can come in irth onlines irc and verify that from the real devs if you want...

    No sane dev would use these forums...



    Dude, no one said you are sane... they just said you are a dev.  Get with the program, okay!
  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378

    What's with all the brand new members with like 3 posts bashing Kishe and this game? Would a freaking moderator put and END to this already? Some ass is making new accounts just to look like its different people. Ok we get it dude you hate Irth Online! What kind of sick sadistic person would try and hurt a fledgling company like this anyways??

    Everyone who reads this thread TAKE NOTE of the names of the people who are doing this. It's just really mean and lame. You're obviously some bored kid ok we get the point you love Dark and Light and we must never say anything bad about it. I never would anyways I think it looks phenomenal, but have some respect this is supposed to be an intellectual forum and not some freakin schoolyard.

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  • MeskorMeskor Member Posts: 28



    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Why do you hate Irth online so much?



    I don't have any opinions of Irth Online, whatsoever.  There's plenty of opinions already posted on this site.  Some love it, like you.  And many think it's worse than foot fungi.  Whatever your position, no one really cares.

    I just hate under-handed tactics used by these so-called irth "fanbois" to bash competing games to make themselves look good.  When the shoe is on the other foot, irth "fanbois" whine like cluster-bombs of cry-babies.  Apparently, you irth "fanbois" can dish it, but can't take it.

  • BobCrazytonBobCrazyton Member UncommonPosts: 2,117
    OMG just lock this thread. It's going way off topic.
  • kishekishe Member UncommonPosts: 2,012

    ok, Meskor...I'll tell you the truth!

    I'm actually Artifical Intelligence created by GoogleNet in attempts to assimilate human kind...so is every other person on this forum whom isn't your alt.

    You are actually last human in the world, we're going to assimilate you soon! Resistance is futile!

    I said it once, I'll say it again...I am not a dev nor do I have any alts...best proof is that i'm european, Magic Hat Software is based off in USA...take it or leave it.

    Incoherent actually maybe has even more knoweledge about irth than I do and he's not a dev either! Reason why more people doesn't have vast knoweledge about Irth is, they haven't tried the irc channel, as simple as that.

    In the poll I picked few most hyped up games (Hype list on front page) as talks really were about MOST OVERHYPED games...can't really call game with 6.0 of hype a overhyped.

    Kishe out.


  • SimSumSimSum Member Posts: 10



    Originally posted by BobCrazyton
    OMG just lock this thread. It's going way off topic.


    Actually, it hasn't gone off topic.  Oddly enough, this is simply some of the original poll choices playing out in real life, namely:

    1. Devs who create contrived polls to bash competing games to make their own game look good
    2. Game companies that produce bad games, then blame the gamers for complaining about it
    3. Devs who constantly post anonymous messages to praise their own game

    To that list, one might also add:

    • Devs who whine and cry "Foul!" when gamers complain about a game instead of taking criticism constructively and improving their product.

    That Irth devs are unwilling to be mature and learn from the criticism they are receiving is perhaps the most telling about the company and its product.  <sigh> 

    P.S. Anarchyart and others, I really couldn't care less about Irth or its dev team.  It simply bothers me when gaming corporations and game devs use the public as tools to further their own game or flame competition, when really we are all here because we enjoy gaming.  You are just falling into their trap.

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by SimSum



    Originally posted by BobCrazyton
    OMG just lock this thread. It's going way off topic.

    Actually, it hasn't gone off topic.  Oddly enough, this is simply some of the original poll choices playing out in real life, namely:

    1. Devs who create contrived polls to bash competing games to make their own game look good
    2. Game companies that produce bad games, then blame the gamers for complaining about it
    3. Devs who constantly post anonymous messages to praise their own game

    To that list, one might also add:

    • Devs who whine and cry "Foul!" when gamers complain about a game instead of taking criticism constructively and improving their product.

    That Irth devs are unwilling to be mature and learn from the criticism they are receiving is perhaps the most telling about the company and its product.   

    P.S. Anarchyart and others, I really couldn't care less about Irth or its dev team.  It simply bothers me when gaming corporations and game devs use the public as tools to further their own game or flame competition, when really we are all here because we enjoy gaming.  You are just falling into their trap.


    Ok thank you for an intelligent post in this otherwise useless thread. But do you honestly think that Irth dev's are here bashing other peoples games? That's just bad business practice and I would hate to believe it was true. I'm sure that devs might browse boards like this, and even post the odd anonymous thread to boost things or bring things to light that people might be ignoring. Even that is bad mojo IMO.

    But Kishe is here and has been here a long time, and unless I'm mistaken, far before Irth Online was even a glint in a developers eye. He isn't going anywhere and is very high profile as far as visibility on this site. Do you really think he is an Irth online developer? I too agree with you that this would be bad business practice and just plain underhanded. But every time someone loves a game someone else hates, you hear people saying that well they must be an employee for that company. You must have heard that more than once. Even I have been accused of working for Horizons because why else would I like it. God I wish I was I would be making decent money and be out having fun in the sun instead of stuck behind this computer.

    Kishe likes Irth Online and god bless him and everyone else who stands up for something they like, especially when that thing is unpopular. I know how hard it can be, as I said I enjoy Horizons which is somewhat of a black sheep (completely unjustified at present btw) on these forums.

    In closing, thank you SimSum for getting things back on track to civilized discourse. The schoolyard stuff was just a bit too much, and I apologize to Meskor for participating in it and exacerbating it. I agree that corporations should not use the public as tools to further their own interests anonymously. It's dishonest, pure and simple. But lets not make it into a salem witch trial. Just because someone likes a game, does not make them an employee of that company.

    Thank you for listening.

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  • SimSumSimSum Member Posts: 10

    Anarchyart, I just got the following from you... what are you up to?

    http://miniprofile.xfire.com/anarchyart.png

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by SimSum

    Anarchyart, I just got the following from you... what are you up to?
    http://miniprofile.xfire.com/anarchyart.png



    Eh?

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