I kinda don't want to try the games like guild wars and final fantasy, cause they don't let you do a free trial... not in the mood to get suckered into paying 50 bucks up front only to find out everyone is lying and they are also wow clones.
And with GW1 you can get all three campaigns and the expansion for maybe 25 max.
I don't really see how GW1 is going to work with the requirements he had for a game. First of all, it's not even an MMO. Secondly, in MY time playing it, I only ever healed myself or NPCs indirectly. It's not really a healers game UNLESS you rush to level 20 and PvP. Now if you want to be support heals in PvP....I could see that maybe. There's no targeting someone to heal them though, that I recall.....just indirect heals.
There are direct heals, but I agree with where you started definitely not a PVE healers game, PVP maybe but the op specifically said not PVP healing.
I'd suggest LOTRO or AOC good PVE communities for the most part, both have plenty of free content to see if they're games you'd like. IF those don't appeal RIFT or EQ2. If you don't liek any of those, you could give WOW a few more weeks (around 8). Then give TOR a shot..
I mention TOR because there are multiple choices in dedicated healing even classes you wouldn't assume could go that route.
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There are direct heals, but I agree with where you started definitely not a PVE healers game, PVP maybe but the op specifically said not PVP healing.
I'd suggest LOTRO or AOC good PVE communities for the most part, both have plenty of free content to see if they're games you'd like. IF those don't appeal RIFT or EQ2. If you don't liek any of those, you could give WOW a few more weeks (around 8). Then give TOR a shot..
We have suggested Rift, EQ2 and he kinda snapped about how he doesnt want to so I think those, along with WoW, are out. And from what I can tell AoC doesnt have much of a population anymore.
I have been leveling a character in AOC, but took a break cause I'm not a fan of being forced into the single player nighttime mode... is that how the whole game is? And I can't seem to find any info about healing in Lord of the Rings... in fact I keep seein videos about how healing isn't needed....
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
I have been leveling a character in AOC, but took a break cause I'm not a fan of being forced into the single player nighttime mode... is that how the whole game is? And I can't seem to find any info about healing in Lord of the Rings... in fact I keep seein videos about how healing isn't needed....
There are two primary healing classes in LOTRO, minstrel and rune-keeper, and they are definitely needed. Rune-keepers are rather interesting because they can switch between healing and dps mid-fight. Overall though, LOTRO's mechanics are not all different from WoW's, so it may not be the best fit.
I have been leveling a character in AOC, but took a break cause I'm not a fan of being forced into the single player nighttime mode... is that how the whole game is? And I can't seem to find any info about healing in Lord of the Rings... in fact I keep seein videos about how healing isn't needed....
Not at all. Once you leave Tortage its like a normal MMO with normal day night cycles.
1. The addition of the random dungeon finder tool, which made it basically a loby game. I'd rather play an actual loby game that focuses on perfecting the dungeon crawling experience if I'm going to be experiencing loby game gameplay anyway. But in reality I want a game that goes back to the fully immersive style worlds, like WoW was pre wrath...
2. The subtraction of all meaningful class customization, in the name of balance (which didn't even happen, anyway) and simplification (which is insulting).
3. The absolute dependance on Recount, Omen, Deadly boss mods, Vent, looking up and memorizing strategies and videoes of boss encounters, as well as having to have an exact gearscore, with all the enhancements maxed out, to even be allowed to raid with YOUR OWN FUCKING GUILD, let alone a pug. (Even though it's nowhere near that difficult, nor is the healer class in enough of an abundance to warrant such pickiness.)
4. The vote to kick and deserter 30 minute penalty. These things sound good on paper, but large communities don't allow them to work as intended. I can deal with pricks, no problem. They never bothered me. They never will. But when I get kicked at the last boss because I didn't notice I was in a guild run, and one of their guildies wants in to get the drop I earned. No. When I get in a group full of people who have never once ran a dungeon AND are too impatient to let me explain anything to them, and I'M THE ONE that gets a 30 minute wait time, because I don't want to deal with it. No.
5. The fact that you have to pay real world money just to move your character to another server or change their appearance, AND it's a SUBSCRIPTION based game.
Although I'm looking forward to TERA's mechanics innovations, I can still have fun with standard mechanics, as a healer.
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
Guild Wars, monk class for sure. You can hop on, do some quests/missions for a little bit, and that's it; can be pretty casual. The whole world outside of the cities is basically your own dungeon. The game is mostly PvE now, not many pvp anymore. You can get all three games for pretty cheap, and pick up the last expansion Eye of the North where you can get stuff for Guild Wars 2. There is also still quite a few people who play it, finding a guild or party shouldn't be too bad.
Don't be afraid to suggest a game that needs a beast machine, cause I got one. And no, it doesn't have to be f2p, In fact I prefer subscription. I'd just prefer a free trial of sorts. Unless you can prove to me that it's worth it, with a video link (basically I'm talking about final fantasy here... the newer one I mean... can't remember the number)
I'll look into Guild Wars and LOTR, and keep leveling my guy in AoC in the meantime. But, since those are all f2p models, I doubt those will last me till Tera goes open beta in NA, especially if they push it back again. So any subscription based suggestions? (Not a fan of cash shops and level limits)
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
Basically gw1 will fit your requirement. Monk is not your typical heal bot thou. Some research into the skill pool and having a good build is needed to heal efficiently. Other than monk, ritualist can also function as a healer but you'll require the guild war faction expansion.
guild war is like your typical single player pc game where you buy once to get access to all functionality. Not your typical freenium cash shop game.
I did have fun with Aion, and It was perfect when it was still new. But there aren't any low levels anymore, and of course the max level content is pure pvp.
The games I'm waiting for are TERA and The Secret World, btw, not those ones you said.
FFXIV is pretty cheap right now and the game is going through alot of major changes, for the better. You can be every class in game and level them up indepdentetly but use certain skills from the class your not curently leveling, a fun system that will be massivly changing for the better over the next year and half. The healing class is fun and most of the time you not the only healer cause of 8 man group mechanics.
Eventually u will have 2 mage classes leveled up with heals and rezes and buffs and stuff that make u a very powerful and versitile healer/support/dps mulit-class. I would play on the most poppulated english speaking server, Seblina i think it is called. At all level finding groups is easy, having a Linkshell(guild), you can be in more than one, helps alot as well. The only issue is i have in the game is making coin, but the economy is thriving and selling stuff on the markets if u want to take the time makes a hefty profit.
Like i said the game obviously started off weak but is now solid and is changing month by month for the better with a version 2.0 being released in combination with PS3 cross platfrom server integration (PS3 players will play on the same servers the PC players already play on). They have not started charging a monthly fee but will soon because the game is now in good condition with alot of promise. The only problem is you cant buy it as a digital download online u have to find an actual box copy in a store or online(which isn't hard), but the box is only 30 bucks.
The games graphics are amazing and the gameplay is new and inovative but mgiht take a little getting used to. The game also takes some learning to get the hang of but the difficulty scales pretty nicely. I am having a blast for about a month and don't plan on stopping anytime soon.
Do you like lollipops? Suck it. Don't bite you greedy twit.
Ok, before I try Lotro, does it have that crappy random dungeon finder system with the instant teleporting to the dungeon, vote to kick system, 30 minute lockout for abandoning a group, and rewards for using it that force you to use it?
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
Ok, before I try Lotro, does it have that crappy random dungeon finder system with the instant teleporting to the dungeon, vote to kick system, 30 minute lockout for abandoning a group, and rewards for using it that force you to use it?
From what I've heard about F2P LotRO, the trend has been towards making all the content soloable and very easy. Not sure you will find any sort of dedicated healing until endgame, as they eliminated the need for grouping during story quests.
that seems to be the trend I'm seeing with all these games.... don't quite understand the idea behind making a massively multiplayer game a single player experience.....
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
AoC has the best group dungeons at max level (aka hm / godslayer). The content is challenging. You will see ads for them. The gear out of hm dungeons is better than most entry raid stuff. Leveling as a healer in AoC is pretty easy. Lower level dungeons are not easy to find groups for thou.
EQ2 is a solid game as well. Leveling as a pure healer in EQ2 is not easy thou. Most EQ2 healers level as a hybred then switch at max level to all out healer. Finding groups for lower level stuff is not as hard due to the mentoring system. Quite often, a guildie will be willing to run lower level stuff for the mentoring bonus.
seems like theres either the dungeon finder, or it may as well be a single player game...
The only suggestion that comes to mind that hasn't already been mentioned is Eden Eternal. It's free and easy enough to make gold through normal playing that you can buy any of the cash shop items from other players. On your one character you will be able to change between cleric, shaman, and bard for healing. Lots of dungeons throughout the levels and healers are usually in demand. No random dungeon finder, you have to use the chat system but its simple enough to put together a group.
Ok, before I try Lotro, does it have that crappy random dungeon finder system with the instant teleporting to the dungeon, vote to kick system, 30 minute lockout for abandoning a group, and rewards for using it that force you to use it?
No, LOTRO doesn't have a dungeon finder system. You still need to form a group via chat (I recommend joining the GLFF channel). Once you have formed your group you can quick travel to the instance, but that's it--no rewards, etc.
Also, LOTRO doesn't allow addons/mods so there are no dps meters, gear scores or anything like that.
EQ2 and WoW came out about the same time, if I remember correctly.
Two weeks apart. If EQ had not decided to alienate and divide their own fan base at that particular time, MMO history might have been very different.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I have been leveling a character in AOC, but took a break cause I'm not a fan of being forced into the single player nighttime mode... is that how the whole game is? And I can't seem to find any info about healing in Lord of the Rings... in fact I keep seein videos about how healing isn't needed....
No that's not how it all is, once you hit 20 there is no more of that, the game turns into what you'd expect from any MMO (today).
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I have been leveling a character in AOC, but took a break cause I'm not a fan of being forced into the single player nighttime mode... is that how the whole game is? And I can't seem to find any info about healing in Lord of the Rings... in fact I keep seein videos about how healing isn't needed....
There are two primary healing classes in LOTRO, minstrel and rune-keeper, and they are definitely needed. Rune-keepers are rather interesting because they can switch between healing and dps mid-fight. Overall though, LOTRO's mechanics are not all different from WoW's, so it may not be the best fit.
I love the rune-keeper mechanic in LOTRO. Good DPS when soloing and a good healer in groups.
Try Vanguard trial, good pve and classes imo. Best game that has been put out in the last 5 (not sure when it was released, but if its outside your range, ignore it..whatever) years imo...If you are looking for filler, till something else comes out. They say they are putting money back into it and going to release stuff, but their is plenty to keep you going for a bit.
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There are direct heals, but I agree with where you started definitely not a PVE healers game, PVP maybe but the op specifically said not PVP healing.
I'd suggest LOTRO or AOC good PVE communities for the most part, both have plenty of free content to see if they're games you'd like. IF those don't appeal RIFT or EQ2. If you don't liek any of those, you could give WOW a few more weeks (around 8). Then give TOR a shot..
I mention TOR because there are multiple choices in dedicated healing even classes you wouldn't assume could go that route.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
We have suggested Rift, EQ2 and he kinda snapped about how he doesnt want to so I think those, along with WoW, are out. And from what I can tell AoC doesnt have much of a population anymore.
I have been leveling a character in AOC, but took a break cause I'm not a fan of being forced into the single player nighttime mode... is that how the whole game is? And I can't seem to find any info about healing in Lord of the Rings... in fact I keep seein videos about how healing isn't needed....
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
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There are two primary healing classes in LOTRO, minstrel and rune-keeper, and they are definitely needed. Rune-keepers are rather interesting because they can switch between healing and dps mid-fight. Overall though, LOTRO's mechanics are not all different from WoW's, so it may not be the best fit.
One thing I just want to ask, what kind of healer experience are you looking for?
And why can't WoW satisify that?
was it the sub?
so you just want a F2P game instead?
Some criteria could help.
Since most games with deicated healer outthere is going to play like WoW
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
Not at all. Once you leave Tortage its like a normal MMO with normal day night cycles.
It's not the mechanics of WoW that made me quit.
It's the combination of:
1. The addition of the random dungeon finder tool, which made it basically a loby game. I'd rather play an actual loby game that focuses on perfecting the dungeon crawling experience if I'm going to be experiencing loby game gameplay anyway. But in reality I want a game that goes back to the fully immersive style worlds, like WoW was pre wrath...
2. The subtraction of all meaningful class customization, in the name of balance (which didn't even happen, anyway) and simplification (which is insulting).
3. The absolute dependance on Recount, Omen, Deadly boss mods, Vent, looking up and memorizing strategies and videoes of boss encounters, as well as having to have an exact gearscore, with all the enhancements maxed out, to even be allowed to raid with YOUR OWN FUCKING GUILD, let alone a pug. (Even though it's nowhere near that difficult, nor is the healer class in enough of an abundance to warrant such pickiness.)
4. The vote to kick and deserter 30 minute penalty. These things sound good on paper, but large communities don't allow them to work as intended. I can deal with pricks, no problem. They never bothered me. They never will. But when I get kicked at the last boss because I didn't notice I was in a guild run, and one of their guildies wants in to get the drop I earned. No. When I get in a group full of people who have never once ran a dungeon AND are too impatient to let me explain anything to them, and I'M THE ONE that gets a 30 minute wait time, because I don't want to deal with it. No.
5. The fact that you have to pay real world money just to move your character to another server or change their appearance, AND it's a SUBSCRIPTION based game.
Although I'm looking forward to TERA's mechanics innovations, I can still have fun with standard mechanics, as a healer.
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
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Guild Wars, monk class for sure. You can hop on, do some quests/missions for a little bit, and that's it; can be pretty casual. The whole world outside of the cities is basically your own dungeon. The game is mostly PvE now, not many pvp anymore. You can get all three games for pretty cheap, and pick up the last expansion Eye of the North where you can get stuff for Guild Wars 2. There is also still quite a few people who play it, finding a guild or party shouldn't be too bad.
Don't be afraid to suggest a game that needs a beast machine, cause I got one. And no, it doesn't have to be f2p, In fact I prefer subscription. I'd just prefer a free trial of sorts. Unless you can prove to me that it's worth it, with a video link (basically I'm talking about final fantasy here... the newer one I mean... can't remember the number)
I'll look into Guild Wars and LOTR, and keep leveling my guy in AoC in the meantime. But, since those are all f2p models, I doubt those will last me till Tera goes open beta in NA, especially if they push it back again. So any subscription based suggestions? (Not a fan of cash shops and level limits)
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
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Basically gw1 will fit your requirement. Monk is not your typical heal bot thou. Some research into the skill pool and having a good build is needed to heal efficiently. Other than monk, ritualist can also function as a healer but you'll require the guild war faction expansion.
guild war is like your typical single player pc game where you buy once to get access to all functionality. Not your typical freenium cash shop game.
FFXIV is pretty cheap right now and the game is going through alot of major changes, for the better. You can be every class in game and level them up indepdentetly but use certain skills from the class your not curently leveling, a fun system that will be massivly changing for the better over the next year and half. The healing class is fun and most of the time you not the only healer cause of 8 man group mechanics.
Eventually u will have 2 mage classes leveled up with heals and rezes and buffs and stuff that make u a very powerful and versitile healer/support/dps mulit-class. I would play on the most poppulated english speaking server, Seblina i think it is called. At all level finding groups is easy, having a Linkshell(guild), you can be in more than one, helps alot as well. The only issue is i have in the game is making coin, but the economy is thriving and selling stuff on the markets if u want to take the time makes a hefty profit.
Like i said the game obviously started off weak but is now solid and is changing month by month for the better with a version 2.0 being released in combination with PS3 cross platfrom server integration (PS3 players will play on the same servers the PC players already play on). They have not started charging a monthly fee but will soon because the game is now in good condition with alot of promise. The only problem is you cant buy it as a digital download online u have to find an actual box copy in a store or online(which isn't hard), but the box is only 30 bucks.
The games graphics are amazing and the gameplay is new and inovative but mgiht take a little getting used to. The game also takes some learning to get the hang of but the difficulty scales pretty nicely. I am having a blast for about a month and don't plan on stopping anytime soon.
Do you like lollipops? Suck it. Don't bite you greedy twit.
Guild Wars, so far, is feeling similar to AoC to me, what with the forcing you to solo part, and of the two I definately prefer AoC...
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
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Ok, before I try Lotro, does it have that crappy random dungeon finder system with the instant teleporting to the dungeon, vote to kick system, 30 minute lockout for abandoning a group, and rewards for using it that force you to use it?
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
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From what I've heard about F2P LotRO, the trend has been towards making all the content soloable and very easy. Not sure you will find any sort of dedicated healing until endgame, as they eliminated the need for grouping during story quests.
that seems to be the trend I'm seeing with all these games.... don't quite understand the idea behind making a massively multiplayer game a single player experience.....
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
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seems like theres either the dungeon finder, or it may as well be a single player game...
"I don't have anything funny to say, now. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa." ~Tsukasa
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AoC has the best group dungeons at max level (aka hm / godslayer). The content is challenging. You will see ads for them. The gear out of hm dungeons is better than most entry raid stuff. Leveling as a healer in AoC is pretty easy. Lower level dungeons are not easy to find groups for thou.
EQ2 is a solid game as well. Leveling as a pure healer in EQ2 is not easy thou. Most EQ2 healers level as a hybred then switch at max level to all out healer. Finding groups for lower level stuff is not as hard due to the mentoring system. Quite often, a guildie will be willing to run lower level stuff for the mentoring bonus.
The only suggestion that comes to mind that hasn't already been mentioned is Eden Eternal. It's free and easy enough to make gold through normal playing that you can buy any of the cash shop items from other players. On your one character you will be able to change between cleric, shaman, and bard for healing. Lots of dungeons throughout the levels and healers are usually in demand. No random dungeon finder, you have to use the chat system but its simple enough to put together a group.
No, LOTRO doesn't have a dungeon finder system. You still need to form a group via chat (I recommend joining the GLFF channel). Once you have formed your group you can quick travel to the instance, but that's it--no rewards, etc.
Also, LOTRO doesn't allow addons/mods so there are no dps meters, gear scores or anything like that.
Two weeks apart. If EQ had not decided to alienate and divide their own fan base at that particular time, MMO history might have been very different.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
No that's not how it all is, once you hit 20 there is no more of that, the game turns into what you'd expect from any MMO (today).
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I love the rune-keeper mechanic in LOTRO. Good DPS when soloing and a good healer in groups.
Any subscription based suggestions, or good videos of final fantasy healing I can watch while I wait for lotro to finish downloading?
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Try Vanguard trial, good pve and classes imo. Best game that has been put out in the last 5 (not sure when it was released, but if its outside your range, ignore it..whatever) years imo...If you are looking for filler, till something else comes out. They say they are putting money back into it and going to release stuff, but their is plenty to keep you going for a bit.
nm - free trial for GW was already posted
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