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*The Gods sit atop Mount Icarus in their Post-Apocalyptic wastelands watching us with interest yet unheard, and --FEDev1 is their prophet* (Sorry guys, just taking the piss )
Had nothing else to do so I thought I would create a Weapons Wish List for the Gods atop Mount Icarus to read over in hope that they may answer out prayers. (Sorry again )
Its fairly simple, list 3 of your favorite weapons of each weapon category listed that you would like to see make it into the game, 1 being your most favorite down to 3. And the list is as follows:
Pistols: 1. MEU/SOC Pistol - Modified 1911A1 .45 2. HK Mark 23 .45 ACP 3. Smith and Wesson Model 66 .357
Shotguns: 1. Benelli M1014 Semi Automatic Shotgun 2. Benelli M3 Super 90 3.
Sub Machine Guns: 1. Navy MP5 2. FN P90 SMG 3. Thompson Submchine Gun
Assault Rifles: 1. M4A1 2. HK 416 3. XM8 Lightweight Assault Rifle
Rifles / Sniper Rifles: 1. M40A3 2. MK MSG 90 3. Special Purpose Rifle (SPR)
Heavy Weapons: 1. M240 2. M60E 3. MG3 Machine Gun
Advanced (Your Futuristic Imagination) Weaponry:
M-41A Oulse Rifle firing High velocity explosive depleted uranium shells. Sorry, couldnt resist!
Comments
Ok, most of these are there just because they need to be listed and should be in the game.
Pistols: Glock 17, Glock 18 (full auto ), Barreta 92, and the Browning HP.
Shotguns: SPAS-12, Mossberg 500 (rifle- and pistol-grip), Remington 870.
SMGs: (bah, you took the good ones ) MAC 10, Uzi (plus the Mini and Micro), H&K UMP.
Assault Rifles: H&K G3, H&K G36, FN FAL.
Rifles/ Sniper Rifles: H&K PSG-1, Steyr Scout Tactical, Remington 700.
Heavy Weapons: Browning M2 (other than that you covered it all )
Thats what I think needs to be there. Not all my favorites, but some good guns in there. Lots of German and US guns. Guess both nations make good war
Waiting For: something good
Games Tried: SWTOR, Star Trek Online, EQ, EQ2, Earth and Beyond, Planetside, Lineage 2, Eve Online, WoW, City of Heroes, City of Villians, Auto Assault, Fallen Earth
Star Wars: Galaxies - Ibra Olasi (Valcyn Server) [Dead, screw you SOE]
Futuristic stuff (My specialty )
Laser Rifle
Types: (Differs by components used when crafting, or random when looted)
-Ruby (Red beam, long range, low power)
-Krypton (Green beam, medium range and power)
-Argon (Blue beam, short range, high power)
Power source: Should be some sort of high-tech battery or another.
Getting ammunition: Very simple, find a place to recharge the battery.
Description: (Will vary with plotline ideas/changes for when these finally come out)
Underground research that has gone on even after society collapsed finally managed to create a laser device with enough power to destroy living tissue and compact enough to be carried as a weapon. The laser functions by firing light into a tube and exciting gas particles within the tube. The excited gas atoms in turn release their own light which reflects off a set of mirrors within the laser. Concentrated light leaves the tube as a coherent beam. These beams are released in pulses rather than a single, long beam. (Or some high-tech description lol)
Plasma Rifle
Power source: Should be a plasma cell. These are basically miniature tokamaks, consisting of a container, magnetic field generators to house the plasma, and the plasma itself. The top of the container has a sort of magnetic "trap door" for plasma to escape into the rifle when loaded and fired.
Finding ammunition: Not as simple as lasers, there'll have to be some place where plasma is created out of hydrogen gas. I can only see recharging these babies at the underground labs or a major settlement that has one of these facilities. Will have to see how the timeline & plotline progresses.
Description: Plasma was in use well before the collapse of civilization. Known as the "fourth state of matter", plasma is matter (usually hydrogen) heated to the point where the atoms literally snap apart into their component parts. Found naturally in the sun, plasma has to be contained within a magnetic field in order to be used. Underground research finally perfected the use of plasma as a weapon. Using plasma containers small enough to be carried, this rifle releases the plasma as a miniature jet contained within a magnetic beam. The plasma cools rapidly, reverting to hydrogen gas after a short time exposed to open air.
Technical things aside, this would be a weapon effective out to long range, though the damage would decrease with range, since the plasma cools down and the heat is what causes most of the damage.
Gotta stop here...got a possible tornado coming in, of all things.....
-Xatros Ketosha
I agree whole-heartidly. I would LOVE to see some futuristic weapons on the game, lasers and all. I'd also like to see some futuristic melee weapons as well.
EDIT: Just realized you said whore heartedly...fruedian error?
Words outta my mouth with the melee weapons. Love to see a lightsaber or something similar...plasma sword? Could just have the plasma cycling in a magnetic field rather than exiting the weapon like in the rifle. Would have a handle and a long, running blade. One side has plasma going out from the handle, other side going in. Field works just like the power cell, just needs to be reheated in the hilt before heading back out.
I'm tempted to say this thing would take ammunition...plasma packs to replace lost/cooled plasma or batteries to reheat the stuff coming back in. Up for debate, as usual.
EDIT: Random idea for the weapons: Self-charging batteries? Would do so over time, but could be sped up if you can find somewhere to plug it in, like a car battery....car battery.
IDEA: Allow us to plug batteries into vehicles to recharge them.
Self charging batteries: Say you were firing a laser and ran out of juice. Slide the battery out, pocket it to inventory and slide in another one. Battery will charge in inventory or gun. Maybe only while in inventory?
IDEA: Balance, have self-charging batteries only charge to 75% without being plugged in.
-Xatros Ketosha
...Yeah, my bad, thats embarassing =P
For self-charging batteries, you could have them be solar-powered (like the solar scorcher from Fallout 2). Also, I recently heard of scientists who are now trying to use nuclear power in batteries. They say they would be able to run for decades and would be super-safe. Might be something useful.
Now the problem with a plasma sword is that at somepoint someone would call it a lightsaber, and then the devs would get sued by Lucasarts and SOE. Just look at what happened to City of Heroes.
Waiting For: something good
Games Tried: SWTOR, Star Trek Online, EQ, EQ2, Earth and Beyond, Planetside, Lineage 2, Eve Online, WoW, City of Heroes, City of Villians, Auto Assault, Fallen Earth
Star Wars: Galaxies - Ibra Olasi (Valcyn Server) [Dead, screw you SOE]
I'm at least relatively sure that they have a working laser rifle made already, but all those nasty laws and conventions and what have you make it a tad bit illegal to bust them out and show them off. Just wait until the new world order arrives, then we'll get to see all those lovely toys... unless you don't turn around fast enough, then you miss out on what's killing you. And i like the depleted uranium rounds idea, that way you can die a little while later, after your character shrivles up and suffers for a while. Yay American military. Protectors of hypocracy, and defenders of injustice.
Unreal Tournament 2: Energy swords and lances
Halo 1 & 2: Covenant Plasma Sword
Deus Ex 1: Dragon's Tooth Nanosword
Deus Ex 2: Energy Blade
Daikatana: The Daikatana at full charge emitted a glowing energy field, memory serving me correctly.
And probably a few more games I can't remember/dont know about. Point is, energy-based melee weapons are NOT the sole property of Star Wars and Lucasarts. So George Lucas decided to make an energy sword, and with the popularity of his movies now EVERY melee weapon that uses something other than steel is a lightsaber? No, I dont think so. Wishful thinking on behalf of its fanbase maybe, but no.
And nobody ever mentioned having something like jedi in this game. There will be no blocking bullets or laser beams with melee weapons, they're still going to get blasted in the face by the noob with a shotgun if they try killing everyone with just a sword. If you want to stop/dodge bullets, go play Matrix Online. The purpose behind adding the "plasma sword" to this wish list was to provide a high-tech melee weapon that would do more damage than regular ones. That's all. And its not our only option, just a suggestion.
Going from the list at the top of this post, the most relevant one to FE would be the nanosword from the original Deus Ex. It was basically a regular sword surrounded by a plethora of nanites. The nanites would repair and sharpen the blade continually, making it both unbreakable and lethally sharp. Since the Gods on Mount Icarus have already mentioned that nanotechnology would probably be a part of the FE world, I can see something similar to this weapon fitting in.
-Xatros Ketosha
eugh.
Definately id want more realistic weapons. none of the futuristic stuff, at least not till much later on in the games timeline.
Supposed to be building a new earth from almost scratch, it should feel primitive and brutal.
not like star wars.
we got star wars galaxies for that, and many other games like it (As shown by someone above)
I have confidence that Fallen Earth is a game that is going to be proud to be different and from screenshots it looks like weaponry will be kick ass.
I hope they are thinking Quentin Tarantino, John Woo and Robert Rodriguez, not George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and so on.
-Xatros Ketosha
I'd also like to see those futuristic weapons, but yeah, they should be later in the game. A whole world progression should have the feel of world progression (Low-med-high tech gradually.).
As for the earlier weapons, I would want to see some innovation even then. I mean, yeah, shotguns and pistols are nice, but wouldn't it be nice to see something new? I mean, not futuristic, but something that can utilize what we're going to have naturally reoccuring. Some tape-and-patches flamethrower, get interesting with it. (I am aware of the extreme vagueness of this post, i just cant think of anything...)
As for future tech, like i stated before, fallout-fueled weapons. Some way to harness the tanks of radioactive goo, and use em for ammo.
Anyway, just my 2cents, and I'm really glad i finally found a responive FE mini-community
A Zip Gun (is that right?)
Kinda like a homemade primitive weapon would be very cool.
Stuff that does non-lethal damage
A zip gun is a home made gun. Those would be great to have.
And non-lethal damage would be good. Just be able to knock people down and out with them.
Good stuff
Waiting For: something good
Games Tried: SWTOR, Star Trek Online, EQ, EQ2, Earth and Beyond, Planetside, Lineage 2, Eve Online, WoW, City of Heroes, City of Villians, Auto Assault, Fallen Earth
Star Wars: Galaxies - Ibra Olasi (Valcyn Server) [Dead, screw you SOE]
light sabers are cool.
but i feel like fallen earth should be.... for want of a better word i guess.. realistic?
a grittier atmosphere than glowing swords of fantasy tales i guess.
im not all that keen on the idea of mutant powers currently but waiting to see how they are in the game.
Hmm no one mentioned the good old grenade,such as the standard "frag" grenade leading up to a plasma and photon grenade,(ya old Gamma World stuff) but you need to set booby traps or take out half a block sometime or other
Great ideas on the hand guns and asualt weapons. I wonder what type of sniper advantage we might get in game
-Crossbows
-Mini - Crossbows (Worn on the wrist, rather than carried like a rifle. We see these in the game Deus Ex and the Mad Max movies.)
-Xatros Ketosha
CHEMICAL WEAPONS!
Sneaking up on a bandit crew inside a run down 'shed' or workshop and tossing a couple of homemade nasty gas bombs through the windows.
Putting them in a state, running out the building for you to pick them off.
I would also LOVE ... LOVE.. to see fire.
Being able to set fire to things, so in the example above you could climb up on the roof and set fire to the shack after blocking the door with a friend on the hill picking them off with a rifle as they run out the door screaming and burning.
Lol, good idea or am i just sick? :P
That is gritty.
You will do anything and use anything to aid your survival and should be able to in this game. (I pray)
LOL evil and a little frightning but yea they can add Moltave coctail hmmto use the coctail to flush them out or save the gas for my get away LOL hmm imagine im sure there can be a variety of things in game that can have multi uses
Yes.
I'd kinda like to see even very basic weaponry in the game to start with:
Thrown rocks, clubs, 2x4 boards with a nail (or spike) or three in it, fists, biting, clawing, brass knuckles, sap, whip, rope with a rock at the end, various favors of revolver pistols, bolt action rifles of varying caliber... at least for the first month or so until the first update to Tech is published.
Some things I'd like to see in future Tech updates:
Grenades, vehicle mountable cannons, grenade launchers, tear gas, rubber bullet ammo, nets, caltrops, crude swords, crudge spears (like sharpened rebar *shiver*)