I dont get it, why is EA seen as the fucking devil for wanting to make more money off THEIR IP?
EA is a bigger company with much more resources then steam, why the fuck do they need to keep any of their product on steam? They only reason steam exists is because no other company felt it was nesssary to make a program like steam on pc, now they do, lets pull all the major devolopers away from steam and see which will survive the fall out.
I highly doubt Steam(valve) would be able to survive with just their games and in the grand scheme of things, origin might be buggy as fuck now, but i highly doubt this time next year it will have any trouble snuffing out steam, if that was their goal.
Their goal is to simply say, hey, you like this ea game, check out all of these ea games. And origin doesnt only sell pc games, it sells and ships xbox, and ps3 games, it uses the cloud system, the program itself is still in beta, it says that clearly, but whatever you think about it, EA is entitled to make their own program, its not greed its business.
I dont know why people think EA should pay steam to host their game when they can do it themselves.
Yeah, let's not, OK? The last thing I want is two dozen portal programs on my computer with two dozen accounts and two dozen logins, just so I can play all my games. The beauty of Steam is that it caters to all games, not just Valve's. That's a positive, not a negative. Now, if I wanted to play EA games, I'll need another Steam-like service, but one that carries only EA's garbage. Luckily, I don't want any of their shoddy crap so it doesn't much affect me. It would though, if others decided to do the same thing.
The most important thing for me is to have all my games in one place so that I always know where they are and I can always revisit them in the future. I never need to worry about missing disks and CD keys and I never need to worry about making sure my games stay up-to-date, regardless of who made those games. That goes to hell if everyone tries to do their own inferior version of Steam. And that also means less money going to them because there are *many* titles out there that I would never have bought if they hadn't been advertised on Steam. That includes the last EA product I ever bought.
Yeah but you are wrong and you dont.
I actually own battlfiedl 3, i dont even have origin open, i have battlelog as my homepage and i play the game from that. Ive been in the swtor beta test weekend and they have their own client, while it does put the game in origin, you dont need to open it at all, you can just you the seperate launcher.
All you people bitching about origin, like i siad, simply want something to be angry about, because unlike steam, origin does not force you to use it to play their games. Yeah you need to associate the cd key with origin, but you dont ned it to run the game after the game is installed.
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The point being I think that EA shouldn’t have spawned Origin-al Sin in the first place, true, it makes economic sense for them to do so, but it’s an annoyance to everyone else.
This is not putting the consumer 1st, this is not supply and demand, this is just milking us, it’s so transparent that people object, even though it won’t make any difference. I don’t see anything other than a mass boycott changing EA's evil plans, and not enough consumers care for that to happen. Better the inconvenience of having yet another bloody thing running in the background, than the inconvenience of not playing those EA products you can’t live without.
Ehh... then don't buy it?
How is making a platform for customers to buy their products 'milking us'?
Are all platform makers like STEAM or ITUNES milking us now?
That doesn't make any logical sense.
Nope it doesn't make any logical sense. One can only be "milked" of cash from a coporation, if one is willing to fork it over. Otherwise it is called robbery and you have legal recourse. I grow weary of people with moral outrage at corporations, but they can't seem to find their own moral backbone and not fork over their cash to said corporation.
From an economic stand point, I can not see giving Steam 30% of my gross revenue when all they do is have a storefront. Valve spent no money in developing the game so why do they deserve 30%? All of the big gaming companies are in the process of creating storefronts. Activision has the Blizzard store, EA is working on Origin, and Ubi is creating their own as well.
Besides, you do not need Origin for SWToR just look on the game forums. Just buy a physical copy if Origin bothers you.
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx Originally posted by Unlight
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx
I dont get it, why is EA seen as the fucking devil for wanting to make more money off THEIR IP? EA is a bigger company with much more resources then steam, why the fuck do they need to keep any of their product on steam? They only reason steam exists is because no other company felt it was nesssary to make a program like steam on pc, now they do, lets pull all the major devolopers away from steam and see which will survive the fall out. I highly doubt Steam(valve) would be able to survive with just their games and in the grand scheme of things, origin might be buggy as fuck now, but i highly doubt this time next year it will have any trouble snuffing out steam, if that was their goal. Their goal is to simply say, hey, you like this ea game, check out all of these ea games. And origin doesnt only sell pc games, it sells and ships xbox, and ps3 games, it uses the cloud system, the program itself is still in beta, it says that clearly, but whatever you think about it, EA is entitled to make their own program, its not greed its business. I dont know why people think EA should pay steam to host their game when they can do it themselves.
Yeah, let's not, OK? The last thing I want is two dozen portal programs on my computer with two dozen accounts and two dozen logins, just so I can play all my games. The beauty of Steam is that it caters to all games, not just Valve's. That's a positive, not a negative. Now, if I wanted to play EA games, I'll need another Steam-like service, but one that carries only EA's garbage. Luckily, I don't want any of their shoddy crap so it doesn't much affect me. It would though, if others decided to do the same thing. The most important thing for me is to have all my games in one place so that I always know where they are and I can always revisit them in the future. I never need to worry about missing disks and CD keys and I never need to worry about making sure my games stay up-to-date, regardless of who made those games. That goes to hell if everyone tries to do their own inferior version of Steam. And that also means less money going to them because there are *many* titles out there that I would never have bought if they hadn't been advertised on Steam. That includes the last EA product I ever bought. Yeah but you are wrong and you dont.
I actually own battlfiedl 3, i dont even have origin open, i have battlelog as my homepage and i play the game from that. Ive been in the swtor beta test weekend and they have their own client, while it does put the game in origin, you dont need to open it at all, you can just you the seperate launcher.
All you people bitching about origin, like i siad, simply want something to be angry about, because unlike steam, origin does not force you to use it to play their games. Yeah you need to associate the cd key with origin, but you dont ned it to run the game after the game is installed.
Check your process list after you start SW:ToR to see if Origin is running in the background. Then see if you can kill it and keep SW:ToR running. Finally, check to see if you must be an administrator to run the game (if you're running the ancient, but still useful Windows XP). If Origin exists, you can't kill it and keep SW:ToR running and if you must be an administrator to run the game, then...well, I have no idea what they are doing. They're probably making sure you don't cheat by rooting your system.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Well perhaps they can make Origin more user friendly instead of fanboys saying " you don't need origin or just don't use Origin". Typical fanboy reaction. God forbid we can make things better for everyone.
Well perhaps they can make Origin more user friendly instead of fanboys saying " you don't need origin or just don't use Origin". Typical fanboy reaction. God forbid we can make things better for everyone.
How is making a platform for customers to buy their products 'milking us'?
Are all platform makers like STEAM or ITUNES milking us now?
That doesn't make any logical sense.
I already said, I love steam, I have a lot of games via it, and find that convenient, and it would be even more so if EA's games where allowed to run on it. The point is, both the deals you get and the fact that it's a lot of games through a single system is efficient. However, if every major publisher decided to pull their products off a common and popular system, so they could make a little bit extra by having their own, we'd all end up with dozens of steam-style systems forced on us, with often no more than 1 or 2 games on each one, and with all the ram and security issues that would cause.
That is a logical extrapolation.
No one asked for origin, EA didn't want Steam to get it's cut, and so we have an involuntary loyalty system that penalizes through its inconvenience, if this was about anti-piracy or curbing second hand games (another annoying issue) Steam would have been enough for that. This is about getting more money from us, ask anyone using Origin if they’d rather just have it all on Steam, which they would most likely have already anyway.
EA is trying to do EXACTLY what steam already has done. Do I love steam? yes(over 250 of my games through steam. I however had to download and use origin to play battlefield 3 and basically its just EA's version of steam. Do I like the fact I have to use it? no but its not a deal breaker and as time passes I imagine more of my games will be on origin along w/ my games on steam and it will be a non factor. When steam was released people had the same reaction, like that this will pass in time.
Those who don't want to use origin just vote with your wallets, me personally its not enough of an annoyance to miss out on the best multiplayer shooter of the year BF3 and from my experiences w/ the beta already the best mmo of the year in swtor.
Originally posted by DarkPony Originally posted by SaintViktor Well perhaps they can make Origin more user friendly instead of fanboys saying " you don't need origin or just don't use Origin". Typical fanboy reaction. God forbid we can make things better for everyone.
No.
It's the reason that Steam has been successful. It provides some services and it's pretty user friendly. I like seeing how many people are playing any particular game. It's a factor in some of my game purchases.
I don't like the idea of having half a dozen of them on my desktop though. I don't mind an optional digital distribution system, but another Steam, even if it's user friendly doesn't hold much attraction for me.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
It is confirmed that you will not need to install Origin at any time.
If you would have taken 1 min to check the dev tracker....
Quote from AllissonBerryman:
you will not be required to install the Origin software in order to download, patch, or play the game (even during Early Game Access). You'll do that through our own site and launcher.
Well perhaps they can make Origin more user friendly instead of fanboys saying " you don't need origin or just don't use Origin". Typical fanboy reaction. God forbid we can make things better for everyone.
Why does pointing out the FACT that you don't have to use origin have to be "typical fanboy reaction"?
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Yeah but you are wrong and you dont.
I actually own battlfiedl 3, i dont even have origin open, i have battlelog as my homepage and i play the game from that. Ive been in the swtor beta test weekend and they have their own client, while it does put the game in origin, you dont need to open it at all, you can just you the seperate launcher.
All you people bitching about origin, like i siad, simply want something to be angry about, because unlike steam, origin does not force you to use it to play their games. Yeah you need to associate the cd key with origin, but you dont ned it to run the game after the game is installed.
Quotations Those Who make peaceful resolutions impossible, make violent resolutions inevitable. John F. Kennedy
Life... is the shit that happens while you wait for moments that never come - Lester Freeman
Lie to no one. If there 's somebody close to you, you'll ruin it with a lie. If they're a stranger, who the fuck are they you gotta lie to them? - Willy Nelson
Nope it doesn't make any logical sense. One can only be "milked" of cash from a coporation, if one is willing to fork it over. Otherwise it is called robbery and you have legal recourse. I grow weary of people with moral outrage at corporations, but they can't seem to find their own moral backbone and not fork over their cash to said corporation.
From an economic stand point, I can not see giving Steam 30% of my gross revenue when all they do is have a storefront. Valve spent no money in developing the game so why do they deserve 30%? All of the big gaming companies are in the process of creating storefronts. Activision has the Blizzard store, EA is working on Origin, and Ubi is creating their own as well.
Besides, you do not need Origin for SWToR just look on the game forums. Just buy a physical copy if Origin bothers you.
The most important thing for me is to have all my games in one place so that I always know where they are and I can always revisit them in the future. I never need to worry about missing disks and CD keys and I never need to worry about making sure my games stay up-to-date, regardless of who made those games. That goes to hell if everyone tries to do their own inferior version of Steam. And that also means less money going to them because there are *many* titles out there that I would never have bought if they hadn't been advertised on Steam. That includes the last EA product I ever bought.
Yeah but you are wrong and you dont.
I actually own battlfiedl 3, i dont even have origin open, i have battlelog as my homepage and i play the game from that. Ive been in the swtor beta test weekend and they have their own client, while it does put the game in origin, you dont need to open it at all, you can just you the seperate launcher.
All you people bitching about origin, like i siad, simply want something to be angry about, because unlike steam, origin does not force you to use it to play their games. Yeah you need to associate the cd key with origin, but you dont ned it to run the game after the game is installed.
Check your process list after you start SW:ToR to see if Origin is running in the background. Then see if you can kill it and keep SW:ToR running. Finally, check to see if you must be an administrator to run the game (if you're running the ancient, but still useful Windows XP). If Origin exists, you can't kill it and keep SW:ToR running and if you must be an administrator to run the game, then...well, I have no idea what they are doing. They're probably making sure you don't cheat by rooting your system.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
who cares about another cloud/loader app?
got origin installed since DA2 anyway, and guess what, nothing is being send without my knowledge, hooray for a save system. shesh.
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Well perhaps they can make Origin more user friendly instead of fanboys saying " you don't need origin or just don't use Origin". Typical fanboy reaction. God forbid we can make things better for everyone.
No.
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EA is trying to do EXACTLY what steam already has done. Do I love steam? yes(over 250 of my games through steam. I however had to download and use origin to play battlefield 3 and basically its just EA's version of steam. Do I like the fact I have to use it? no but its not a deal breaker and as time passes I imagine more of my games will be on origin along w/ my games on steam and it will be a non factor. When steam was released people had the same reaction, like that this will pass in time.
Those who don't want to use origin just vote with your wallets, me personally its not enough of an annoyance to miss out on the best multiplayer shooter of the year BF3 and from my experiences w/ the beta already the best mmo of the year in swtor.
It's the reason that Steam has been successful. It provides some services and it's pretty user friendly. I like seeing how many people are playing any particular game. It's a factor in some of my game purchases.
I don't like the idea of having half a dozen of them on my desktop though. I don't mind an optional digital distribution system, but another Steam, even if it's user friendly doesn't hold much attraction for me.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
It is confirmed that you will not need to install Origin at any time.
If you would have taken 1 min to check the dev tracker....
Quote from AllissonBerryman:
you will not be required to install the Origin software in order to download, patch, or play the game (even during Early Game Access). You'll do that through our own site and launcher.
I just make another entry in Games Explorer for whatever game. Tada!
Why does pointing out the FACT that you don't have to use origin have to be "typical fanboy reaction"?
It sounds like a reasonable response.