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Blizzard's stock downgraded because of SWTOR
Belgaraath
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..interesting article. Seems like SWTOR is going to have no issues with a player base at launch or shortly after launch as some here claim.
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there is already a thread on tis
You know what I think? Before the NDA was dropped, every one was ranting on how SW:TOR will be crap and not worth it, etc.
The bad reputation stuck to where Blizzard didn't think SW:TOR was going to be a threat. So they set their sights on GW2 as shown what audience their MoP expansion is directed towards.
Then out of left field, SW:TOR drops the NDA and suddenly a tidal wave of ravingly positive impressions and "reviews" are flooding in the past week.
If I was Blizzard. I would be concerned too.
Because SW:TOR is more similar to WoW than GW2 is to WoW. Except SW:TOR offers more than WoW.
People who've played WoW will feel at home playing SW:TOR whilst they'd be lost at first trying to learn GW2's new 'revolutionary' system.
Don't get me wrong. GW2 will be great too. But at the moment, SW:TOR is playing all the cards right.
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Pretty much agreed. But I don't think MoP was an answer to GW2 apart from scenario's; Blizzard has been big and bloated enough to not care too much about other releases in the past years; they are simply aiming to expand in the east with MoP.
It is a very smart thing to do in a purely business sense as China in particular still has a huge potential as a market. But the fact that MoP doesn't appeal so much at all to a big chunk of its western audience might hurt them more than they'd expected due to Swtor and GW2's imminent releases.
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There is? I didn't see it anywhere. Sorry about that. Can you point me where it is?
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Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
I might be able to buy GW2 and being subbed to another MMO at the same time, but that doesnt mean I can play them in parallel.
Yup, and you'd still make expenses to keep your game up to date with its frequent expansions. Of course you don't need to use the cash shop but we have yet to see how appealing those items / extra's will be.
But yeah; if SWTOR is really compelling, I won't play any game at the side for as long as the fun lasts. I personally never played multiple mmorpgs in shifts.
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We'll talk about that in three months from now, ok? ^_^
p.s. as far as I've heared Swtor isn't so heavy in its system requirements.
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Most new game launches are a threat to WOW, but why stop with WOW?
Major launches are competition to wow, rift, lotro, aoc, eq2, aion...........
It's just the nature of things.
The good thing coming out of all this is the increasing competition, which will hopefully force developers to continually raise the bar on mmo quality, innovation and content.
But didn't you know? You NEVER completely quit WoW. You'll come poking back around at some point. Whatever the case may be. Don't matter if Blizz loses a lot of subs, they're not going to hurt over a game that they've had a good 7 year run with. They've made plenty of money and progress plus they still have all their other titles. And Blizzard at some point will just release another MMO in the future. WoW can still be a fun game. I'll give SWTOR a shot and if I like it, I'll play it. WoW is a good side game when you get tired of everything else becuz lets face it. WoW has become a casual after work MMO but still retains its fun these days. SERIOUS MMO'er/Guilds will leave I'm sure although many have already. Just enjoy your game, be happy, and just forget about WOW. Eventually Blizz will reload those servers with something new and then we can start paying attention to them again. Although I will be playing MOP. PANDAS RULE!!!!
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Blah blah blah.... WoW is closing down, SWTOR new messiah.
Six months from now we will all be looking back on this time just like we look back on all launches. Half will be saying that they love SWTOR and hate WoW, the other half will be talking about how much they hate SWTOR and glad WoW is stronger then ever. And the usual 4 people will be talking about how obscure MMO X is better then all of them.
Blizzard will not be shutting their doors or making WoW free to play. WoW will plod along just like EQ and DAoC have for years. There will be an adjustment in population especially when gold farmers head towards SWTORs golden fields.
""But Coyote, you could learn! You only prefer keyboard and mouse because that's all you've ever known!" You might say right before you hug a rainforest and walk in sandals to your drum circle where you're trying to raise group consciousness of ladybugs or whatever it is you dirty goddamn hippies do when you're not busy smoking pot and smelling bad."
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You can be more than sure that Blizzard has their share of beta keys and have hired people playing the game, accessing the community to know how it plays out. When it comes to marketing, competitive advantage, SWOT (strength, weaknesses, opportunities, threats) converting strategies.. Blizzard the top company. They know what going on, they know their threads, they analyze them and try to convert it to opportunity than get consumed. They also know their weakness and constantly try to convert this to their strength.
Nah it has nothing to do with the NDA, it has to do with the fact that they will need to share the market with Bioware. Im sure Blizzard knew exactly how popular the game was, how good it is, how much a threat it is – and have been working on how to convert this.
The market can only be as big. If 20 million play MMO the companies will need to share this. The best game get the most, the second best second most and so on. Some MMOs that are not so popular will die, you can see the effect on Rift already, giving away their game now. Their subs has gone down too it seems. In this process some will soffer more than others. Blizzard has 10 mill subs if they loost 3 million more, they just earn less, but wow will still be hell of a good product, and making a lot cash still.
Then again the counter-argument is that they announced World Of Kung Fu Panda.
Yes I'm going to play it, but i dont see the amazing foresight and market-analysis you are attributing to it. Maybe they are saving it for Titan, who knows.
Year's peak was November 8th, at just shy of 14.0 and then BAM! down...down...and more decline...
There are two side to this. Blizzard likes to work in total secrecy. Meaning analyzing is hard. You dont see the amazing foresight in this, well i dont either, i quit wow long ago. But i have huge respect for Blizzard as a firm, it easy to see they know that making a good game is just one thing of what a company needs to do.
If pandaland will be a success, noone can say before launch. We all have our Love/hate relationship to this cuteness
The overwhelming majority of WoW players will love the addition to the Pandaren race and the Monk class (which has been suggested and asked for at every expansion announcement). So, can we stop with the infantile "Kung Fu Panda killed WoW" arguments?
Not to mention that GW2 is B2P, not P2P, so people can play GW2 while not feeling guilty for paying a sub for another game. Most MMO players are used to paying a sub, but not more than one, so I bet many people will be unsubbing to WoW, that play it, to sub to SWTOR, while possibly also buying GW2 to play it whenever they feel the whim to do so.
Yep, definite proof that WoW is going to just be a shadow of its former self, a pathetic ghost that all the leet SWTOR players can point at and say "Man, I can't believe I used to play that piece of crap".
Or maybe you had another point to this comment that you neglected to add?
""But Coyote, you could learn! You only prefer keyboard and mouse because that's all you've ever known!" You might say right before you hug a rainforest and walk in sandals to your drum circle where you're trying to raise group consciousness of ladybugs or whatever it is you dirty goddamn hippies do when you're not busy smoking pot and smelling bad."
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Was thinking the exactly same
Its going to be the most successful former shadow of itself outclassing every other MMO by around 4-5 million subs. lol
On top of that, almost everyone on this site played WoW for a longer periode of time, and loved it back then. Its just childish to name the most succesfull MMO till today a peice of crap.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
You see I just don't understand this comment.
This is also why forum posts are mostly useless as they do not reflect the nuances of the human voice.
I say mostly useless.
""But Coyote, you could learn! You only prefer keyboard and mouse because that's all you've ever known!" You might say right before you hug a rainforest and walk in sandals to your drum circle where you're trying to raise group consciousness of ladybugs or whatever it is you dirty goddamn hippies do when you're not busy smoking pot and smelling bad."
Coyote's Howling: Death of the Computer
I have two computers. One is a very powerful laptop with dual 580Ms which is overkill for this game since it can run Skyrim at maximum settings with the FPS never dipping below 40 in that game. When running this, no issues whatsoever.
I also have a spare desktop which Im testing for this weekends beta. It is a Core i5 2400 3.1ghz, Nvidia GTX 550TI (a card that costs less than $130). So far with everything on max at 1920x1080, I have yet to dip below 32 FPS with an average FPS between 40-90. That pretty much means that any average computer on lower-mid settings should run this game just fine. The game may even be better optimized than WOW is.
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I ran SWTOR on max with a GTX260, a Q6600 2.3ghz(I think), and 4 gigs of ram at that same resolution.
So yeah either SWTOR's textures are low quality or its pretty optiomized. I think most computers can run it.