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Very dissappointed...
nomss
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I was looking forward to the game, but after playing the beta for few hours, I am having second thoughts about even buying the game, hardly sub for it.
I did not really like the PVP or PVE... I thought the worlds were suppose to be big... but they're tiny. So tiny that it's pathetic. I have been doing 3D modelling for a while now, and I feel I could have single handedly done a better job of A starter planet. All the NPCs want to you freakin underground cave again and again and it's BS. It is like DA2 all over again freaking making you run through same place until you are ready to puke your guts out.
The starter planet lacks in detail, texture seems to be pretty bad. I have nothing against stylized art but they could have done a better job in many spots.
Take any game from FFX (except for FFXIV) - winthin minutes you start to feel you are on some superb adventure. But here, go back under that one shi.. cave again and again; seriously....?
Hell even in FFXI within hour you were traveling far and beyound. The scenery changed at a nice pace. But in Koriban, the dessert does not want to end, seems like it goes on forever.
PVP... you are joking right. You can't chose which game you want to participate? Redicilously big time clock. Oh and every time you die, you have to take the scooter again and again - pissing me of so bad. Where were the testers??? Don't tell me this did not bother the hell out of people.
Guild Wars 2's 50 minutes game play video:
http://n4g.com/news/592585/guild-wars-2-50-minutes-of-pure-gameplay
Everything We Know about GW2:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/287180/page/1
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I think testers where specially chosen among relatives and friends of developers lol.
An honest review of SW:TOR 6/10 (Danny Wojcicki)
It is unfotunate you do not like it, hopefully GW2 will fulfill your wishes.
I am also a 3d modeler in addition to being a programmer. I have to question the claim that you could have single handely done a better job. Are you currently employed by a major developer because it sounds like you could eliminate at least a dozen jobs (i kid, i kid).
I'm not even really sure that I understand most of wha you wrote, but I will say that I do respect your opinion because at least it is based off of gameplay experience.
One thing is that the later game solves a lot of the issues you had and the game systems are constantly being improved. You seem to really hate the caves, which I understand but there aren't really caves everywhere on most planets. It is a strange choice they made to litter the starter worlds with them, I agree, but the settings in this game vary greatly.
If you keep playing, soon you will forget all about caves. Actually if you play BH/IA, the starting world is Hutta and it has very few caves. More buildings and bases.
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The planets are actually huge unless you never made out of starter planet? many times the worlds size has been posted and it is quite large compared to any other themepark MMORPG. It took me 25 to 28 minutes to run from one side of map to the other in higher zones.
Over four years? Really? Really?
3D modelling is just a hoby. I am also almost finished with CSI degree (programming).
Guild Wars 2's 50 minutes game play video:
http://n4g.com/news/592585/guild-wars-2-50-minutes-of-pure-gameplay
Everything We Know about GW2:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/287180/page/1
I remember arguing with someone a while back who was going on about how small the maps were in AoC, and that SWTOR was going to be HUGE! He went on about how massive this game was going to be with all the planets instead of just small areas of a world like most MMO's. PLANETS!!!! And a bunch of them!!! It wasn't going to be instanced like AoC was, because each planet is an entire world, not an instance.
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I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
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Only Koriban.
So it took you 25+ mins, but did the scenery change at a good pace? Or was it similar to the starter planet that dessert every where.
IDK if you've played FFXI... But scenery changed at a very good place. You started in the city went to the jungle went another jungle type are but different and to the beach.
Guild Wars 2's 50 minutes game play video:
http://n4g.com/news/592585/guild-wars-2-50-minutes-of-pure-gameplay
Everything We Know about GW2:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/287180/page/1
Come on now, you are claiming to do whole starting zones (even though somewhat small), entirely by yourself, and doing a better job as well. You must know enough about games to realize that is quite the large claim.
The first combo I will throw your way is Employee / Client(Bosses).
The next word I will say to you is "revisions".
Now go do your research, enough business lessons today. (saying this in fun)
SWTOR looks & feels so outdated
I´m keeping my pre-order to check it out for a month at release.....but i am dissapointed with the game so far.
...and i feel sad because this was going to be my MMO........not that sure anymore....
No not just Koriban and yes scenery changes a lot and it stays true to SW world. I completely disagree that SWTOR worlds are tiny or small.
If I was only modeling? I really think I could've done a lot more than what we have. As for revisions, I know they have to iterate. But this again is all about adding details.
Guild Wars 2's 50 minutes game play video:
http://n4g.com/news/592585/guild-wars-2-50-minutes-of-pure-gameplay
Everything We Know about GW2:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/287180/page/1
did u even go to dromand kass its 4 times the size of kooriban. For the record hutta and ord mantell and tython are all bigger then kooriban. Kooriban is by far the smallest of the starter worlds which are the smallest worlds in game.
I loved tor but if u didnt evne leave the starter world then u dont know what your talking about.
Dont even try to make a con post on TOR on these boards, it's like the 3 monkies, dont see dont hear dont listen attitude.
If it's not broken, you are not innovating.
Oh well i didn't want to spoil it for him by giving names of planets. it is more fun to discover it for yourself. That is the problem with majority of posts. Players don't even get out of starter areas and start complaining and assuming that all planets in SWTOR are tiny and small.
/facepalm
U know im tired of u people saying we can take a con post. Its getting old. Hell if anything a positive post gets slammed much harder then any negative post.
Also koriban is by far the smallest world in tor. He didnt even get high enough to test open world pvp or test the bigger worlds in game. Yet he says the words are to small.
He only tested koriban. The smallest planet in game. Come on pal really and we are teh problem Yet u people who post cons constantly call the art sucky i love the game worlds they look awesome to me
u constantly say the worlds are real small when most planets after starter worlds are the size of 7-8 wow zones by themselves. U call this a single player game when u can group from the time u set down to the time u hit 50
Mayve if u guys had any objectivity in your hate us fanbois wouldnt have to defend i or to those that migh use boards like this to actually ttry a game.
This board is the most biased against tor u can find. So if u want an honest objective review of tor dont read the cons they are filled with so many lies about the game its not funny
It becomes alot bigger than you realize. I have to qualify that with the fact that I have personally worked on large simulated environments in my job both by myself and with the team. Even if you are doing straight up low poly / low detail models, the more you add, the more other factors come into play. Then beyond that there are any number of forseen and unforseen factors that also come into play. Anyway you get the idea, sorry for the slight derailment.
Your concerns are just as valid as anyone else.
Cheers
Spreading wrong information is being constructive now? atleast get out of starter planet first if you are going to judge planet size of entire game.
Go compare this to all the good press the game world of 'The Secret World' got this last week. People were saying things like "the world IS the story", and that the game is a "home away from home", or that it ruined them for other games that are out or coming out. Every preview I read from ALL of the major gaming sites had glowing things to say about how immersive the game is, and how it just blew them away.
It makes a huge difference when you jump into a game that is so well designed that it just sucks you completely in. Look at Skyrim, or even FPS games like Battlefield 3. I'm sure it was a major shortcut for Bioware not to be concerned with all those little details that make such a rich experience. Gamers, however, may not be so thrilled after the initial shine of a new Star Wars game wears off like it did for a lot of us testers. I don't get it, really. I heard nothing but amazing comments from Bioware fans, and I just don't see it in this game.
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One man's meat is another man's poison. I loved Korriban, because it reminded me of KoTOR... dusty old tombs and all.
For my money, Tython is the most boring starter world, but I know people in testing who love it.
Go figure, eh?
Honestly, the starter worlds are small for a reason, and as has been pointed out, some of them (Hutta / Ord Mantell) feel far less confining that Korriban does.
Get to Balmorra and see if it's still too small and confined for you. On my first character I thought I'd never get off the planet, so many extensions on the map, so much up and down, I was all spun around and truly learned the meaning of "planet fatigue". But you don't have to do everything, or go everywhere on the bigger planets. I was just intent on it, and had only myself to blame.
You can't judge world design fairly based off a single planet. I wouldn't judge any game off it's tutorial zone, all I'd judge is whether I wanted to keep playing or not. And you may not want to continue bsed on your Korriban experience, which is your right, and I won't argue with that.
I'll just say that in my experience, the starter worlds are not indicative of the rest of the galaxy and leave it at that.
This could be said for every single game ever made.
I sent an email to where I preordered it to ask for a cancellation of the order.
I think they will refuse, but I have to try or else its like throwing money out the window.
If you base your "world size/game world size" decision on a starter area, you are SUCH an MMO noob.
Boba Fett-"Reality doesn't care if you believe it."
I have not got to play much so far, it has some good points and some bad. SO I am not really going to judge it yet as I only has a couple of days expierience.
But I will say the Graphics on this game are average at best. For example you look at the shadows and they are little black squares.. really? it is 2011 not 1999. When I start getting into the game the bad graphics just pull me out of any fun.
I know people will say "graphics do not matter" but to some people they do.
My expectations were pretty low, but I at least expected to like it enough to play for a few weeks. Enough to justify the box cost, even if I never subscribe. I thought it'd at least be on par with Dragon Age, or Mass Effect.. but IMHO, even Dragon Age II was a lot more fun. I couldn't bear to play TOR for a few hours, never mind weeks.
So yeah, guess you could say I'm disappointed. I went from expecting to like it enough to buy, even if not subscribe - to thinking as desperate as I am for a new MMO, I'm going to pass on this one entirely. Nicest thing I can say about it is that it's probably the most well polished turd I've ever seen.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
<< I sent an email to where I preordered it to ask for a cancellation of the order. >>
Amazon lets you cancel pre-orders (I canceled mine last week). Most companies should.