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Bioware Response to the haters!

kanechartkanechart Member UncommonPosts: 707

What I have noticed overtime is that the people hate the game or dislike it love talking about it and disliking it. I assume people who dislike olives go to their local olive factories and bash them out too. I must give credit to bioware for doing a good job at pretty much telling these people off.

Rather then ignore these people who complain or demand a full redone of the game they pretty much said go eff off this is how our game is made and this is how were doing it.

Thanks Bioware for not ruining the game like Blizzard did for casual wannabe hardcore players.

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  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192

    huh?

     

    I must have missed them saying that..

  • C1d0sC1d0s Member UncommonPosts: 238

    Originally posted by kanechart

    What I have noticed overtime is that the people hate the game or dislike it love talking about it and disliking it. I assume people who dislike olives go to their local olive factories and bash them out too. I must give credit to bioware for doing a good job at pretty much telling these people off.

    Rather then ignore these people who complain or demand a full redone of the game they pretty much said go eff off this is how our game is made and this is how were doing it.

    Thanks Bioware for not ruining the game like Blizzard did for casual wannabe hardcore players.

    I must have also missed it.

    Post a credible link, please.

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  • kanechartkanechart Member UncommonPosts: 707

    Originally posted by tank017

    huh?

     

    I must have missed them saying that..

    It's a general observation overtime at expo's and stuff. They kind have had a good bold this is what our game is and people who don't like that might not like it. My point is they been pretty good and bold at telling people hey don't like it don't play and rather like blizzard who says maybe maybe maybe they pretty upfront so far.

    Does not mean they will not cross us later on but hey its a start!

    SNIP

  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159

    Originally posted by kanechart

    I assume people who dislike olives go to their local olive factories and bash them out too. 

     

    If I were a huge fan of olives, I might spend time on boards about olives, including sharing my opinions on the brands and styles I consider to be bad.  That's not the same as going to a factory to bash the employees who package them.

     

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910


    Originally posted by Vhaln

    Originally posted by kanechart
    I assume people who dislike olives go to their local olive factories and bash them out too. 
     
    If I were a huge fan of olives, I might spend time on boards about olives, including sharing my opinions on the brands and styles I consider to be bad.  That's not the same as going to a factory to bash the employees who package them.
     



    If you were going to equate it to what happens here, you might bash the people who grew the olives you didn't like and you would most certainly bash the people who like the olive you didn't like.

    They would be noob olive eaters...or perhaps they would be elitist snob olive eaters. I mean what kind of idiot demands that the pit remain in the olive...it just slows the process of eating the olive down and you can't have a clove of garlic inside the olive if you leave the olive pit in there. Masochistic jerks.

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  • HomituHomitu Member UncommonPosts: 2,030

    Originally posted by tank017

    huh?

     

    I must have missed them saying that..

    Wait, you understood what the OP said?

  • MaGicBushMaGicBush Member UncommonPosts: 689

    No they are not catering to the masses by making a WoW clone at all *sarcasm*. I will give them credit though, since I started following this game 3 years ago they said exactly what it would be. A WoW clone, they are catering to a group but have stuck to those guns and are not going to change anytime soon.

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  • DeViLzzz2007DeViLzzz2007 Member Posts: 107

    Bioware is already ruining the game.  They got rid of cc and interrupt combo for mobs in questing.  I wanted a challenge from questing for once and hoped this game would give it but the player community cried cuz they want to rush through the game and get to raiding and the other part are just lamers and want no challenge at all.

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  • MyGaronaMyGarona Member Posts: 139
    They want to make money. If you want more of a challenge run without companions. Or pick up a single player game and mod it up in difficulty.
  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    Originally posted by Vhaln

    Originally posted by kanechart

    I assume people who dislike olives go to their local olive factories and bash them out too. 

     

    If I were a huge fan of olives, I might spend time on boards about olives, including sharing my opinions on the brands and styles I consider to be bad.  That's not the same as going to a factory to bash the employees who package them.

     

    No but people that visit the so called best restaurant in town and then find out that they dont like the food will bash it ruthlessly. And then there are also people that never visited that restaurant but will bash it anyway out of jealousy for another ones succes.

     

    I think its a combination of these whats happening here. And the bashers will allways be the loudest.

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  • tyrannistyrannis Member Posts: 198

    Originally posted by kanechart

    Originally posted by tank017

    huh?

     

    I must have missed them saying that..

    It's a general observation overtime at expo's and stuff. They kind have had a good bold this is what our game is and people who don't like that might not like it. My point is they been pretty good and bold at telling people hey don't like it don't play and rather like blizzard who says maybe maybe maybe they pretty upfront so far.

    Does not mean they will not cross us later on but hey its a start!

    Oh so you mean just some shit you made up to satisfy you own desires. Why didn't you just say so up front?

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  • kanechartkanechart Member UncommonPosts: 707

    Originally posted by tyrannis

    Originally posted by kanechart


    Originally posted by tank017

    huh?

     

    I must have missed them saying that..

    It's a general observation overtime at expo's and stuff. They kind have had a good bold this is what our game is and people who don't like that might not like it. My point is they been pretty good and bold at telling people hey don't like it don't play and rather like blizzard who says maybe maybe maybe they pretty upfront so far.

    Does not mean they will not cross us later on but hey its a start!

    Oh so you mean just some shit you made up to satisfy you own desires. Why didn't you just say so up front?

    Whatever you like. Thankfully they have this block button on here :)

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  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Originally posted by Vhaln


    Originally posted by kanechart

    I assume people who dislike olives go to their local olive factories and bash them out too. 

     

    If I were a huge fan of olives, I might spend time on boards about olives, including sharing my opinions on the brands and styles I consider to be bad.  That's not the same as going to a factory to bash the employees who package them.

     

    No but people that visit the so called best restaurant in town and then find out that they dont like the food will bash it ruthlessly. And then there are also people that never visited that restaurant but will bash it anyway out of jealousy for another ones succes.

     

    I think its a combination of these whats happening here. And the bashers will allways be the loudest.

    That may be true..

     

    but when that restaurant is getting all these rave reviews and impressions that it doesnt live up to then......

  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

     

    I think its a combination of these whats happening here. And the bashers will allways be the loudest.

     

    I know this is going to sound crazy, because people are still assuming TOR will be a hit.. but I think in this case, it's the fans that are the vocal minority.  I'm guessing that massive numbers of disappointed testers have just quietly moved on.  

     

    If I'm wrong, then I've become so out of touch, I should probably give up on trying to understand people entirely, and go live on a mountaintop somewhere.

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • A.BlacklochA.Blackloch Member UncommonPosts: 842

    After being in beta and watching some gameplay videos at twitch.tv I'm really ashamed on how people play this game. People rant about the conversations taking too long, then they don't bother to listen the quest dialogue or check out the journal on what to do in quests.

    Yesterday some guy was writing a bug report in twitch.tv because he was just too dumb to use a console to open a door, or open the journal saying "hack the door". If that is too hard to do, then I'm really glad that these kind of people try the game, get disappointed and hop back into wow.

  • PyscoJuggaloPyscoJuggalo Member UncommonPosts: 1,114

    Originally posted by kanechart

    What I have noticed overtime is that the people hate the game or dislike it love talking about it and disliking it. I assume people who dislike olives go to their local olive factories and bash them out too. I must give credit to bioware for doing a good job at pretty much telling these people off.

    Rather then ignore these people who complain or demand a full redone of the game they pretty much said go eff off this is how our game is made and this is how were doing it.

    Thanks Bioware for not ruining the game like Blizzard did for casual wannabe hardcore players.

    Sorry that is not innovative WoW Fanboi, that has been going on in MMORPGs for years and was perfected by SOE during the whole NGE debacle.

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    hmm..how can they ruin the game like Blizzard did ,when it hasn't even released yet?

    I don't hate SWTOR at all,i think it is a decently good game.My problem is it is just too much of the same old,i like a developer to think a bit.It's class design is jus ta copy of so many other games and to be honest ,i do not like the TREE system one bit.

    I could see a TREE system if you actually made each SMALL "very limited" choice meaningful,but 99% of the time ,they are quantity not quality choices that are capped at 2/2.

    I think if anyone played the quest/story lines as much as i have ,they would see that it really is an over rated system.I have seen the story from almsot every class perspective and it gets severely redundant.

    What a game comes down to is it's class and combat structure.SWTOR does a few cute things for class,but combat is still VERY generic,actually a step down from other games becuase it doesn't utilize combos or added effects.

    So much of the game looked to be rushed for lack of effort.Crafting looks to be thrown together using a faster design and the lack of models confirms the rushed product.I know i can't be the only one to notice it,so i assume somewhere down the road Bioware is going to be questioned for such a lame effort on models.

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  • ArcheminosArcheminos Member Posts: 283

    Originally posted by Vhaln

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

     

    I think its a combination of these whats happening here. And the bashers will allways be the loudest.

     

    I know this is going to sound crazy, because people are still assuming TOR will be a hit.. but I think in this case, it's the fans that are the vocal minority.  I'm guessing that massive numbers of disappointed testers have just quietly moved on.  

     

    If I'm wrong, then I've become so out of touch, I should probably give up on trying to understand people entirely, and go live on a mountaintop somewhere.

    Everyone who enjoys it is quiet because they are still playing the weekend beta, since it goes on till tomorrow night.

     

    But I know a few good mountains, just in case.

  • ropeniceropenice Member UncommonPosts: 588

    Originally posted by tank017

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus


    Originally posted by Vhaln


    Originally posted by kanechart

    I assume people who dislike olives go to their local olive factories and bash them out too. 

     

    If I were a huge fan of olives, I might spend time on boards about olives, including sharing my opinions on the brands and styles I consider to be bad.  That's not the same as going to a factory to bash the employees who package them.

     

    No but people that visit the so called best restaurant in town and then find out that they dont like the food will bash it ruthlessly. And then there are also people that never visited that restaurant but will bash it anyway out of jealousy for another ones succes.

     

    I think its a combination of these whats happening here. And the bashers will allways be the loudest.

    That may be true..

     

    but when that restaurant is getting all these rave reviews and impressions that it doesnt live up to then......

    Then you could just choose to eat somewhere else, as the restaurant was not to your taste (even though it was to the tastes of reviewers, etc) or you could choose to spend much time trying to get other people to not try it or eat there. And not just tell friends and family about not liking it, but going online to every food site and bashing it on threads by people who enjoy it, maybe belittling their opinion on what food they like or hijacking the thread. That's when things seem to be a bit overboard.

  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159

    Originally posted by Archeminos

    Everyone who enjoys it is quiet because they are still playing the weekend beta, since it goes on till tomorrow night.

     

    But I know a few good mountains, just in case.

     

    Sounds plausible and all, but after trying it for myself, I dunno.  Have you played it? It's pretty bad.

     

    edit: oh, and @the above poster, you should check out yelp.com - lots of restaurant reviews and discussion there, but it'd be pretty lame if people only talked about restaurants they liked.

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  • ropeniceropenice Member UncommonPosts: 588

    Originally posted by Vhaln

    Originally posted by Archeminos

    Everyone who enjoys it is quiet because they are still playing the weekend beta, since it goes on till tomorrow night.

     

    But I know a few good mountains, just in case.

     

    Sounds plausible and all, but after trying it for myself, I dunno.  Have you played it? It's pretty bad.

     

    edit: oh, and @the above poster, you should check out yelp.com - lots of restaurant reviews and discussion there, but It'd be pretty lame if people only talked about restaurants they liked.

    Maybe i just don't understand why people need to relentlessly press their negative views about things they don't like. I've been following these threads to decide if i want to try TOR or not (still on the fence), and some of the negative viewpoints have been helpfull as they give examples and don't bash but intelligently describe their experience (Many start a thread instead of going off topic on others threads). But for every one that just critiques it, there are many more that seem to just bash with emotion, instead of making good points, and it seems to be the same 20 people on every thread. Doesn't seem to add much to the conversation. As in the above restaurant analogy, vast majority of people who had a bad experience would just post something once and move on and probably forget about it as thy try new restaurants or eat at the ones they already like. Seems like with games it is personal and they spens waaay too much time on every related thread.

  • DexterMMODexterMMO Member Posts: 484

    Originally posted by Vhaln

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

     

    I think its a combination of these whats happening here. And the bashers will allways be the loudest.

     

    I know this is going to sound crazy, because people are still assuming TOR will be a hit.. but I think in this case, it's the fans that are the vocal minority.  I'm guessing that massive numbers of disappointed testers have just quietly moved on.  

     

    If I'm wrong, then I've become so out of touch, I should probably give up on trying to understand people entirely, and go live on a mountaintop somewhere.

    enjoy your mountain top.

    Those who like a product are always the minority. That doesn't mean 1-2 million box sales is a bad thing though. That doesnt mean 200k is a bad thing.

    Edit: It being bad is your opinion, I absolutely love it and so do others. Maybe you should hit that mountain top if you think for a split second your personal preferences are the global exception to good or bad.

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  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192

    Originally posted by ropenice

    Originally posted by tank017


    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus


    Originally posted by Vhaln


    Originally posted by kanechart

    I assume people who dislike olives go to their local olive factories and bash them out too. 

     

    If I were a huge fan of olives, I might spend time on boards about olives, including sharing my opinions on the brands and styles I consider to be bad.  That's not the same as going to a factory to bash the employees who package them.

     

    No but people that visit the so called best restaurant in town and then find out that they dont like the food will bash it ruthlessly. And then there are also people that never visited that restaurant but will bash it anyway out of jealousy for another ones succes.

     

    I think its a combination of these whats happening here. And the bashers will allways be the loudest.

    That may be true..

     

    but when that restaurant is getting all these rave reviews and impressions that it doesnt live up to then......

    Then you could just choose to eat somewhere else, as the restaurant was not to your taste (even though it was to the tastes of reviewers, etc) or you could choose to spend much time trying to get other people to not try it or eat there. And not just tell friends and family about not liking it, but going online to every food site and bashing it on threads by people who enjoy it, maybe belittling their opinion on what food they like or hijacking the thread. That's when things seem to be a bit overboard.

    lol....this is an MMO site..

     

    people are bound to give their opinions on MMO's,its gonna happen whether you like it or not..

     

    and yes,I have chosen to 'go somewhere else',doesnt mean I cant give my opinion on it.Do I care if the next person loves the game so much that he buys 5 copies? nope...but its still not going to stop me from giving my opinion.

  • CujoSWAoACujoSWAoA Member UncommonPosts: 1,781

    My favorite thing about explosions is when they explode.

    lolololololol

     

  • NaqajNaqaj Member UncommonPosts: 1,673

    Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

    My favorite thing about explosions is when they explode.

    lolololololol

     

    That's like totally just your personal opinion!

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