I also did beta TOR and will not be buying or playing. Playing Skyrim for every nook I find.
Skyrim is brilliant.
That said, after TOR beta and playing Skyrim i did some thinking about MMOs. If you make an MMO that is mostly a solo experience, or that is where you put your efforts ( Bioware ), you are now competing with Single Player RPGs.
SWTOR vs ME / ME2 / DA / Skyrim etc ...
SwTor loses.
The social has to be the game for me and without that MMOs kinda well. . . .stink.
excellent point. I would P2P Skyrim before I ever would SWTOR. Bioware made a singe player RPG and will charge $15/month for it. how sweet of them.
Lol more ignorant people, wtf are you talking about?. swtor a singleplayer rpg?, just lol. But you are right the game si bad, thats why people keep buying it after the beta weekend. They have a funny poll in the test forums, where 95% of the testers think that the game is awesome, and just the 0,27% hate it, guess u are part of the 0,27%.
I wouldn't consider Skyrim a "grind" in the traditional sense of the word used in the MMORPG community as a whole. In an MMO, for example, you pretty much have to gain levels in order to progress. Skyrim is a sandbox game that never forces you in any particular direction except the main quest, which you can easily begin to shy away from in favor of looting dungeons and doing side quests..... for fun, not solely because it's going to benefit you in some gear-check end game.
Your criticism is flawed.
Aion would be considered a grind, Skyrim can be anything you want it to be. I'm not one of those people who think Skyrim is the end-all-be-all, but come on.
While most of you disagree with the OP or think he is just complaining, my experience was pretty much the same.
He and I are not the only ones either, and there will be many more a couple of weeks after launch.
I was seriously contemplating buying this game, because I enjoyed the starter world stories but once I hit Dromund Kaas/Coruscant it started going downhill.
The length of time it took to level was also very abrupt, 1-10 could be achieved in a couple of hours, but as soon as you hit the main city it would jump to almost an hour per level.
Another huge turn off for me was when I noticed the Expertise Stat.... Really, another PvP grind?
Im all for being rewarded by doing well in PvP, but Im not looking for another grind fest to stay competative. They should take a page from ArenaNets books and just equalize all gear/level/stats when they enter a Battleground.
I'd much rather be rewarded with cosmetic items or titles than gear that would enhance my chances in PvP.
Imagine being able to permanently upgrade your units in a game like StarCraft.... youre just going to segregate the community and form an elitist culture which isnt conducive to the social aspects of a game at all.
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I wouldn't consider Skyrim a "grind" in the traditional sense of the word used in the MMORPG community as a whole. In an MMO, for example, you pretty much have to gain levels in order to progress. Skyrim is a sandbox game that never forces you in any particular direction except the main quest, which you can easily begin to shy away from in favor of looting dungeons and doing side quests..... for fun, not solely because it's going to benefit you in some gear-check end game.
Your criticism is flawed.
Aion would be considered a grind, Skyrim can be anything you want it to be. I'm not one of those people who think Skyrim is the end-all-be-all, but come on.
I don't think its flawed now that MMOs with VO and Story are on the horizon. If you ask me Skyrim would have been awesome to me a year ago as Oblivion was. But I, and this is IMO, would rather play a game where I am part of a grander scheme.
My new found criticism for TES series when compared to newer MMOs such as TOR, GW2 and even TSW (If it has a decent amount of VO and Story) is that fact that TOR and GW2 has engageing VO, Story and have large worlds. Sure Skyrim offers a bit more in terms of interacting with said world but GW2 has things like Dynamic events, and TOR has that Bioware story telling. Which for me trumps what ever Skyrim has to offer.
Don't get me wrong for what it was I enjoy TES series Morrowind use to be in my top five games before Mass Effect came out.
One of the things that ticked me off playing Skyrim was quest that felt like they where right out of an MMO, like the introductory quest to the theifs guild.
I also did beta TOR and will not be buying or playing. Playing Skyrim for every nook I find.
Skyrim is brilliant.
That said, after TOR beta and playing Skyrim i did some thinking about MMOs. If you make an MMO that is mostly a solo experience, or that is where you put your efforts ( Bioware ), you are now competing with Single Player RPGs.
SWTOR vs ME / ME2 / DA / Skyrim etc ...
SwTor loses.
The social has to be the game for me and without that MMOs kinda well. . . .stink.
excellent point. I would P2P Skyrim before I ever would SWTOR. Bioware made a singe player RPG and will charge $15/month for it. how sweet of them.
Lol more ignorant people, wtf are you talking about?. swtor a singleplayer rpg?, just lol. But you are right the game si bad, thats why people keep buying it after the beta weekend. They have a funny poll in the test forums, where 95% of the testers think that the game is awesome, and just the 0,27% hate it, guess u are part of the 0,27%.
I think you are wrong with your numbers. That said, Flashpoints ( group dunegons ) are fantastic in SWTOR. Grouping is the best part of the game. But unless you are spending your time in SWTOR version of battlegrounds, or grinding flashpoints over and over you are NOT spending much of your time grouped.
Leveled 4 characters to 20+ and one to 30 in beta ( was in since august ) and it really is a solo experience for the mostpart. Sure you group for +2 and +4 heroic quests ( which take 15 minutes on average lol ) and Flashpoints ( usually 1 per planet). ( I don't and won't play instanced pvp crap. )
Unless you grind battlegrounds or flashpoints most of your time involves solo questing + the signature part of SWTOR ( the player stories ) which are solo as well. And comparing that experience to other solo RPGs it just loses.
However what I am talking about is not just how you spend your time in game. Bioware put their Effort into making this game a solo experience ( with the storytelling ) and came up with watered down version of the same storytelling experience they sell with Mass Effect / DA / etc.
For me social interaction in MMOs has to be more than ( use dungeon finder and put up things on an auction house ) and this is the way MMOs have been going for some time now. That experience is something I am not willing to pay for anymore.
Want to know what I mean by social - See Star Wars Galaxies.
100% agree with allegria! Adding 'social points' does not make a game social... It was a pathetic attempt at adding some new features that other games do not have while doing the minimum amount of effort.
Real social games have GAMEPLAY and MECHANICS that create a social METAGAME.
But if you got 250+ hours of entertainment from it then I personally would consider that a huge success and well worth the price to buy a game.
maybe I misunderstood the post. But 10+ real life days played seems like you enjoyed it alot.
Not everyone is constrained enough by economical reasons to consider quantity to be such an important factor. Several of us are able to spend, without any issues, at least 60 dollars for 20 hours; in such cases quality becomes the most important factor and quantity is just a minor consideration.
Several of us are not constrained economically with time being the most valuable. In such cases, there is NO WAY we would spend 2 hours doing something we do not enjoy much less 250+ hours.
There are multiple degrees of joy;: different entertainment can cause more joy than others. Sometimes "joy" is not even the only factor that is important when evaluating the quality. For instance, in my case, no MMORPG has ever given me 142 minutes that were more entertaining than the 142 mins I spent watching the movie "The Shawhank Redemption". Furthermore, I would not trade any 195 mins in a MMORPG for the 195 mins I spent watching the movie "Schlinder's List".
Analogously, I would not trade any of the hours I spent playing the Metroid, Castlevania, Zelda, Final Fantasy( XIV being an exception and many hours in XI as well), Resident Evil and Mario series for equivalent hours in an MMORPG.
Edit: To be honest, MMORPG is a genre I want to like, but the amount of cloning and lack of quality makes me test such with a joy that is far less than optimal.
Edit: To be honest, MMORPG is a genre I want to like, but the amount of cloning and lack of quality makes me test such with a joy that is far less than optimal.
That's a good point, and a lot of MMOs are played nowadays because people are bored or their friends/family are doing it, not because they care about the format. Even then, some people play because they don't want a game they paid good money for to be over in 30 hours. Apart from some companies' insistance on you forking over a subscription fee that isn't necessary for them to make revenue (this is often referred to as GREED), MMOs can satisfy that concern quite adequately (to me anyway, depending on the game)...
But I regret giving Blizzard so much money. They seem to have used it to buy huge game character statues in their HQ's lobby and none on innovation. Such is life. They're not getting at my wallet anymore.
Gotta say that Skyrim spoiled me for SWTOR. I waited like forever to get into the beta and when i finally get in this weekend, i am like is this it? Is this all you got?
I am too busy running missions for the dark brotherhood and tweaking ledgers for the theives guild while on the hunt for a priest for some dark god that wants revenge, not to mention playing hide and seek with a ghost who was killed by a vampire and there is this little thing called a civil war going on.
Skyrim may have spoiled me forever as this is now the baseline that I want my MMOs to flow from now on. If we could just have a Skyrim like co op with open world taverns wehre you can gamble, brawl and hook up with parties to play in a co op Skyrim, then I would be in heaven.
I think my days playing MMOs have come to a end.
At least til Guild Wars 2 comes out.
SWTOR, i will take my money back now.
I've heard this comment from many people lauding Skyrim over SWTOR and it's like comparing apples and oranges. Skyrim, while beautifully done, is nothing more than a single player hack and slash fantasy game while SWTOR is a massive MMO filled with other gamers to interact with.
I played SWTOR beta this past weeked for 2 full days to level 18 and was blown away by how much fun it was. The crafting system is actually more involved than I thought it would be and the companion system is a great touch.
And this was only Beta - I can't wait to see how Bioware progressed with SWTOR! It's gonna be a fun ride.
Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.
As I've said i believe this game is perfect for kids, I've read it has allot of hand holding, super easy, at its core it's simplistic (and no this isn't and bad thing to allot of people) as it's more entertaining for them this way.
I'm honestly very excited for my kids, it's probably going to be very exciting for them at first, but no matter the game they eventually tire of it, except Minecraft.
Priceless! I mean your whole post is veiled attempt at insulting the maturity of people who like the game.
The most comical part for me though is where you say you are excited for your kids. I can imagine the questions that will be asked. "Daddy, why do I have to cut his head off and deliver it in a bag?", to "Daddy, when I press flirt I get to have sex with a virtual NPC, can I have some cookies?
I will say this about the general comment you made. Any game ever made will become boring or tiring once you pass your personal limit.
LOL good one - I was thinking the same thing
Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.
I also did beta TOR and will not be buying or playing. Playing Skyrim for every nook I find.
Skyrim is brilliant.
That said, after TOR beta and playing Skyrim i did some thinking about MMOs. If you make an MMO that is mostly a solo experience, or that is where you put your efforts ( Bioware ), you are now competing with Single Player RPGs.
SWTOR vs ME / ME2 / DA / Skyrim etc ...
SwTor loses.
The social has to be the game for me and without that MMOs kinda well. . . .stink.
excellent point. I would P2P Skyrim before I ever would SWTOR. Bioware made a singe player RPG and will charge $15/month for it. how sweet of them.
LOL - SWTOR is not a freaking single player game. Where is this mis-information coming from?
Skyrim is a slick hack and slash game that you play with yourself - and most do
Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.
As I've said i believe this game is perfect for kids, I've read it has allot of hand holding, super easy, at its core it's simplistic (and no this isn't and bad thing to allot of people) as it's more entertaining for them this way.
I'm honestly very excited for my kids, it's probably going to be very exciting for them at first, but no matter the game they eventually tire of it, except Minecraft.
Priceless! I mean your whole post is veiled attempt at insulting the maturity of people who like the game.
The most comical part for me though is where you say you are excited for your kids. I can imagine the questions that will be asked. "Daddy, why do I have to cut his head off and deliver it in a bag?", to "Daddy, when I press flirt I get to have sex with a virtual NPC, can I have some cookies?
I will say this about the general comment you made. Any game ever made will become boring or tiring once you pass your personal limit.
LOL good one - I was thinking the same thing
You guys have to accept that cutting heads off and sex is the stuff that many kids love the most in videogames. I mean, mature content is for immature people really.
I made just the same, loggin into TOR played my jedi sage to lvl 14 with some pvp , and then.--- back to skyrim, and not for all the reasons already mentioned a 100 times on this side, not because its themepark or else.. it is cause i dont feel the love of the developers in their product, there are certain flaws in TOR that could have been removed with a just a little more .. dedication, its a loveless themepark mmo copied from all that have been there before, gosh even the sage gets to kill animals on a meadow for some credits....
in skyrim i feel it, a fox that watches me while i watch him, and then he runs away. cause wildlife just doesnt attack you everywhere, dragons doin their stuff, not minding me sometimes. quests are not found by a yellow sign over the head, quests find me in skyrim...
bethesda put a lot more love into their product then the TOR guys did, thats for sure, everything else is a matter of taste...
well i totally agree to that one.. and same goes to Bioware with that one...
But I regret giving Blizzard so much money. They seem to have used it to buy huge game character statues in their HQ's lobby and none on innovation. Such is life. They're not getting at my wallet anymore.
I made just the same, loggin into TOR played my jedi sage to lvl 14 with some pvp , and then.--- back to skyrim, and not for all the reasons already mentioned a 100 times on this side, not because its themepark or else.. it is cause i dont feel the love of the developers in their product, there are certain flaws in TOR that could have been removed with a just a little more .. dedication, its a loveless themepark mmo copied from all that have been there before, gosh even the sage gets to kill animals on a meadow for some credits....
in skyrim i feel it, a fox that watches me while i watch him, and then he runs away. cause wildlife just doesnt attack you everywhere, dragons doin their stuff, not minding me sometimes. quests are not found by a yellow sign over the head, quests find me in skyrim...
bethesda put a lot more love into their product then the TOR guys did, thats for sure, everything else is a matter of taste...
I suppose this is what I should have wrote lol. In this last weekend I played a guardian to 15 or something, this time skipping the known dialog and it took about 2hrs. After I got Kira Karsen I started missing my conjured Dremora Lords and practising my archery on moving foxes only to have spriggans come out of nowhere and attack me.
I really did want to love TOR. I mean, after all the novels, the clone wars novels were bad ass, the yuzhong vong wars, I liked quite a few of the other novels as well but I'm not the biggest fan. I wont follow lucas into hell with jar jar and Han did shoot first but, before star wars, i'm a gamer. Some people may have gamed a bit, but I still have 2 decades of experience under my belt and I've made a few $$ gaming so I'd like to think my opinion is based on more then a whimsical feeling.
As I've said i believe this game is perfect for kids, I've read it has allot of hand holding, super easy, at its core it's simplistic (and no this isn't and bad thing to allot of people) as it's more entertaining for them this way.
I'm honestly very excited for my kids, it's probably going to be very exciting for them at first, but no matter the game they eventually tire of it, except Minecraft.
Priceless! I mean your whole post is veiled attempt at insulting the maturity of people who like the game.
The most comical part for me though is where you say you are excited for your kids. I can imagine the questions that will be asked. "Daddy, why do I have to cut his head off and deliver it in a bag?", to "Daddy, when I press flirt I get to have sex with a virtual NPC, can I have some cookies?
I will say this about the general comment you made. Any game ever made will become boring or tiring once you pass your personal limit.
Im affraid for his kids when they grow up lol
Wish some where forbidden..... nah won't say it's no use, 7billion and counting(ok another problem that has nothing to do with this problem...problems problems problems) bah:(
Why people don't learn that argue about taste is pointless?
Some like this some like that, thats how it is accept that its a fact you can't deny we all never will like same shit hehe.
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Console games ported to PCs without any attempt to modify the controls or streamline the interface / controls are the suck.
Cant wait until steam has some epic 75% off skyrim sale, Ill buy it so I can entertain myself during ToRs server maintence :P
ToR is the best MMO in many years, and I would bet several hundred bucks on the fact that I have more logged hours then you, and other then minor things that have been fixed / surely will be because the dev team is freaking epic WIN .
Only time i've played Skyrim is when I had to update ToR for it's beta weekends on the time between. If I had to pick i'd take SW:ToR over Skyrim both are great in my eye's but I love playing with my Old SWG guildmates again if skyrim had that i'd say I'd play both .
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Lol more ignorant people, wtf are you talking about?. swtor a singleplayer rpg?, just lol. But you are right the game si bad, thats why people keep buying it after the beta weekend. They have a funny poll in the test forums, where 95% of the testers think that the game is awesome, and just the 0,27% hate it, guess u are part of the 0,27%.
I wouldn't consider Skyrim a "grind" in the traditional sense of the word used in the MMORPG community as a whole. In an MMO, for example, you pretty much have to gain levels in order to progress. Skyrim is a sandbox game that never forces you in any particular direction except the main quest, which you can easily begin to shy away from in favor of looting dungeons and doing side quests..... for fun, not solely because it's going to benefit you in some gear-check end game.
Your criticism is flawed.
Aion would be considered a grind, Skyrim can be anything you want it to be. I'm not one of those people who think Skyrim is the end-all-be-all, but come on.
While most of you disagree with the OP or think he is just complaining, my experience was pretty much the same.
He and I are not the only ones either, and there will be many more a couple of weeks after launch.
I was seriously contemplating buying this game, because I enjoyed the starter world stories but once I hit Dromund Kaas/Coruscant it started going downhill.
The length of time it took to level was also very abrupt, 1-10 could be achieved in a couple of hours, but as soon as you hit the main city it would jump to almost an hour per level.
Another huge turn off for me was when I noticed the Expertise Stat.... Really, another PvP grind?
Im all for being rewarded by doing well in PvP, but Im not looking for another grind fest to stay competative. They should take a page from ArenaNets books and just equalize all gear/level/stats when they enter a Battleground.
I'd much rather be rewarded with cosmetic items or titles than gear that would enhance my chances in PvP.
Imagine being able to permanently upgrade your units in a game like StarCraft.... youre just going to segregate the community and form an elitist culture which isnt conducive to the social aspects of a game at all.
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Back to Skyrim indeed !!!
Back to Skyrim as well, but my feelings toward SWTOR are higher.
I don't think its flawed now that MMOs with VO and Story are on the horizon. If you ask me Skyrim would have been awesome to me a year ago as Oblivion was. But I, and this is IMO, would rather play a game where I am part of a grander scheme.
My new found criticism for TES series when compared to newer MMOs such as TOR, GW2 and even TSW (If it has a decent amount of VO and Story) is that fact that TOR and GW2 has engageing VO, Story and have large worlds. Sure Skyrim offers a bit more in terms of interacting with said world but GW2 has things like Dynamic events, and TOR has that Bioware story telling. Which for me trumps what ever Skyrim has to offer.
Don't get me wrong for what it was I enjoy TES series Morrowind use to be in my top five games before Mass Effect came out.
One of the things that ticked me off playing Skyrim was quest that felt like they where right out of an MMO, like the introductory quest to the theifs guild.
I think you are wrong with your numbers. That said, Flashpoints ( group dunegons ) are fantastic in SWTOR. Grouping is the best part of the game. But unless you are spending your time in SWTOR version of battlegrounds, or grinding flashpoints over and over you are NOT spending much of your time grouped.
Leveled 4 characters to 20+ and one to 30 in beta ( was in since august ) and it really is a solo experience for the mostpart. Sure you group for +2 and +4 heroic quests ( which take 15 minutes on average lol ) and Flashpoints ( usually 1 per planet). ( I don't and won't play instanced pvp crap. )
Unless you grind battlegrounds or flashpoints most of your time involves solo questing + the signature part of SWTOR ( the player stories ) which are solo as well. And comparing that experience to other solo RPGs it just loses.
However what I am talking about is not just how you spend your time in game. Bioware put their Effort into making this game a solo experience ( with the storytelling ) and came up with watered down version of the same storytelling experience they sell with Mass Effect / DA / etc.
For me social interaction in MMOs has to be more than ( use dungeon finder and put up things on an auction house ) and this is the way MMOs have been going for some time now. That experience is something I am not willing to pay for anymore.
Want to know what I mean by social - See Star Wars Galaxies.
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100% agree with allegria! Adding 'social points' does not make a game social... It was a pathetic attempt at adding some new features that other games do not have while doing the minimum amount of effort.
Real social games have GAMEPLAY and MECHANICS that create a social METAGAME.
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There are multiple degrees of joy;: different entertainment can cause more joy than others. Sometimes "joy" is not even the only factor that is important when evaluating the quality. For instance, in my case, no MMORPG has ever given me 142 minutes that were more entertaining than the 142 mins I spent watching the movie "The Shawhank Redemption". Furthermore, I would not trade any 195 mins in a MMORPG for the 195 mins I spent watching the movie "Schlinder's List".
Analogously, I would not trade any of the hours I spent playing the Metroid, Castlevania, Zelda, Final Fantasy( XIV being an exception and many hours in XI as well), Resident Evil and Mario series for equivalent hours in an MMORPG.
Edit: To be honest, MMORPG is a genre I want to like, but the amount of cloning and lack of quality makes me test such with a joy that is far less than optimal.
That's a good point, and a lot of MMOs are played nowadays because people are bored or their friends/family are doing it, not because they care about the format. Even then, some people play because they don't want a game they paid good money for to be over in 30 hours. Apart from some companies' insistance on you forking over a subscription fee that isn't necessary for them to make revenue (this is often referred to as GREED), MMOs can satisfy that concern quite adequately (to me anyway, depending on the game)...
But I regret giving Blizzard so much money. They seem to have used it to buy huge game character statues in their HQ's lobby and none on innovation. Such is life. They're not getting at my wallet anymore.
I've heard this comment from many people lauding Skyrim over SWTOR and it's like comparing apples and oranges. Skyrim, while beautifully done, is nothing more than a single player hack and slash fantasy game while SWTOR is a massive MMO filled with other gamers to interact with.
I played SWTOR beta this past weeked for 2 full days to level 18 and was blown away by how much fun it was. The crafting system is actually more involved than I thought it would be and the companion system is a great touch.
And this was only Beta - I can't wait to see how Bioware progressed with SWTOR! It's gonna be a fun ride.
Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.
LOL good one - I was thinking the same thing
Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.
LOL - SWTOR is not a freaking single player game. Where is this mis-information coming from?
Skyrim is a slick hack and slash game that you play with yourself - and most do
Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.
You guys have to accept that cutting heads off and sex is the stuff that many kids love the most in videogames. I mean, mature content is for immature people really.
An honest review of SW:TOR 6/10 (Danny Wojcicki)
I made just the same, loggin into TOR played my jedi sage to lvl 14 with some pvp , and then.--- back to skyrim, and not for all the reasons already mentioned a 100 times on this side, not because its themepark or else.. it is cause i dont feel the love of the developers in their product, there are certain flaws in TOR that could have been removed with a just a little more .. dedication, its a loveless themepark mmo copied from all that have been there before, gosh even the sage gets to kill animals on a meadow for some credits....
in skyrim i feel it, a fox that watches me while i watch him, and then he runs away. cause wildlife just doesnt attack you everywhere, dragons doin their stuff, not minding me sometimes. quests are not found by a yellow sign over the head, quests find me in skyrim...
bethesda put a lot more love into their product then the TOR guys did, thats for sure, everything else is a matter of taste...
I've been in beta for several months and loving the game, sorry it's not for you.
I suppose this is what I should have wrote lol. In this last weekend I played a guardian to 15 or something, this time skipping the known dialog and it took about 2hrs. After I got Kira Karsen I started missing my conjured Dremora Lords and practising my archery on moving foxes only to have spriggans come out of nowhere and attack me.
I really did want to love TOR. I mean, after all the novels, the clone wars novels were bad ass, the yuzhong vong wars, I liked quite a few of the other novels as well but I'm not the biggest fan. I wont follow lucas into hell with jar jar and Han did shoot first but, before star wars, i'm a gamer. Some people may have gamed a bit, but I still have 2 decades of experience under my belt and I've made a few $$ gaming so I'd like to think my opinion is based on more then a whimsical feeling.
"LOL"
Im affraid for his kids when they grow up lol
Wish some where forbidden..... nah won't say it's no use, 7billion and counting(ok another problem that has nothing to do with this problem...problems problems problems) bah:(
Why people don't learn that argue about taste is pointless?
Some like this some like that, thats how it is accept that its a fact you can't deny we all never will like same shit hehe.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
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Agreed.
Only time i've played Skyrim is when I had to update ToR for it's beta weekends on the time between. If I had to pick i'd take SW:ToR over Skyrim both are great in my eye's but I love playing with my Old SWG guildmates again if skyrim had that i'd say I'd play both
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I got Skyrim on launch day and still haven't warmed to the UI (or lack thereof), maybe it's my fault for being a pc fanboy
THESE were the games! Esp Metroid , on Gameboy, omg! I lusted after that thing !
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