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So I had 8 free days of TOR...
wireded21
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I'm a big SW fan, had the Palitoy and Kenner figures as a child... played nearly every SW game on every format... loved the X-Wing V Tie series, Rebel Assault, Jedi Knight, KOTOR... through to Battlefront and then SWG...
I pre-ordered TOR as soon as the offer went up but then had to cancel my pre-order about 2 months ago. I realised my bank card would not be valid when they charged me for the release game so I contacted origin and EA customer services and they said you can't change the payment method in their database so I had no choice but to cancel. They refunded my £5 and all was well. i thought I would hang around and maybe pre-order again in a few weeks but never got around to it...
I noticed a few days later that my early access code was still showing as registered and soon enough I got a beta invite and played a couple of beta weekends.
My early experience through the beta weekends wasn't good... I came away thinking it wasn't quite at the game for me, but I kept heading back to the website and reading the forums... kinda hooked I guess.
So when I got the invite to early access I thought, what the hell, I haven't even bought the game so i'll play the early access and see how it pans out.
So I logged in on the 14th and have played every day during early access. Early access is now finished and I managed to get a couple of chars to a decent enough lvl to experience some of the early elements of the game.
A Lvl 12 trooper and a Lvl 18 Jedi Knight...
Now faced with having to pay £45 to buy it and then a monthly sub after that, no, it's just not worth it. I enjoyed the 8 free days thanks EA!... and if it was F2P I would carry on playing a lot as it's a good game... but...
It doesn't feel like an MMO
I found myself skipping more and more of the dialogue/cut scenes as time went on
You spend a large amount of time either queuing for warzones or trying to find groups for flashpoints
It's too easy to play most of the content on your own and hence makes it less of an MMO
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Don't quite understand the point of this post, but ok??
+1, got my jedi guardian to 33 ( almost 34) barely played yday tho, and while i enjoyed game, i didnt enjoy it as much to spend that asking price, if game was 25-30 pounds like most normal games, i would bought it while ago and never bothered thinking about it,
but for a game that have no future, and so much content is mirrored/copy pasted ( oh you will notice ) asking price is too high
and as game goes on those dialogs do become a chore, listening to meaningless quests about killing 10 or 20 bugs/imps/rebels can be interesting just for so long, considering its always same story, we are overwhelmed, got no army/support, and enemyalways apear with foce enough to conquer whole planets, thats where you go in, kill 10 + 30 bonus, and save us all
i think what he is getting at is that this isnt an mmo lol
I am just content playing a good game, regardless if it feels like a MMO or not. I am simply not ready though to state if it's a good game. I am having a lot of performence issues even at low and indoor with is really making enjoying this a problem and I am on the good side of the stick, my game is still playable, plenty of poeple who can not eve play. For me often indoors it feels laggy.
And just because WoW got it so wrong doesn't mean we should accept it from a brand new 100's million $$$ MMO such as this.
Like other people I just hope that this game is the game that breaks the camels back and we see an move forward in the MMO genre. This game may be remembered for stirring up so much dissapointment that it changes the face of MMO's for the better so I guess we can at least thank EABioware for that...
Thenk you for ensuring that future releases have
No early access
No grace period
Less AAA titles
More "Gambling" and "Wallet Based" Gameplay than ever before.
It is competitively priced on entertainment value as far as pure objectivity goes. Sorry your subjectivity, or your expectations, have overriden your capacity for enjoyment.
Personally I think that, just like so many others in the vocal minority, you went into the game knowing that you didn't want another themepark MMORPG, knew that is precisely what SWTOR was, and then were somehow shocked and dismayed to discover that SWTOR was a themepark MMORPG and that you didn't want to play another themepark MMORPG... Clearly there is a huge market for this type of game. Also, clearly it's not what you want to play anymore, so I have to wonder why you keep torturing yourself. There are plenty of options out there for you, so I would suggest that you go explore those. I would venture a guess that if you didn't spend so much time on things that you clearly don't like you would be much happier, and so would many other people that are in teh same boat as you...
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Of course it's easy to play, you're not even out of the starter areas. SWTor was designed for people that don't play mmo's. Your class quests and zones get significantly harder in the high 30's.
I agree with the OP. I am in the same dilemma and swtor didn't excite me as I thought it would.
To which his own and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
From past trends, I would say, it would do well for a few months. After everyone will begin to realize, it is a just a themepark mmo. Half of the population will head back to WoW for the Kung Fu Panda. Who knows, I am still searching the next best thing. GW2 maybe?
Time will tell...
The game is 37.70 pounds if you buy it off Amazon. You don't have to buy it from Origin for the ridiculous 45 pounds.
Also if you don't like it, then don't buy it. That's what I am doing. I find the price unreasonable and not worth it rom my beta experience. So I will either a) never buy the game or b) wait till it drops to a more reasonable price.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
Again, another story of . . . I've grown tired of pizza. I was hungry so I tried a slice of a different pizza. I didn't like the pizza as much as I thought I was going to.
1.) Define MMO
2.) For those who are in habit of skipping quest text won't feel any different with V.O
3.) By 'you' i hope you are talking about yourself, since i spent most of my time crafting, questing and hunting for codex unlocks.
4.) By most you mean just single player quests and instanced pvp matches? because surely can not solo any world bosses, champions, heroic quests and heroic zones, flaspoints, operation, FFA PVP zone. Some of the datacrons are in heroic areas so good luck getting those alone too.
I didn't know that solo quests formed most of the content in such a huge game.
How many servers SWTOR will launch with on release?
ShredderSE - Umm how many do they need? Maybe 6.
US, EU, Asian, France, German and Russian.
Subs will be so low there is no need for more
Snoocky-How many servers?
The first 3 months a lot...after that 2 i guess, one for PVE and 1 for PVP...
Thorbrand - SWTOR doesn't have longevity at all. Might be one of the shortest lived MMOs.
kthxbai, canihazurstuff?
Of course it's easy to play, you're not even out of the starter areas. SWTor was designed for people that don't play mmo's. Your class quests and zones get significantly harder in the high 30's.
Yeah,I question any so called "review" that states the game is easy or solo centric. That type of reviewer either didn't play the game or is lying.Currently Playing: World of Warcraft
Oddly enough, I have gone back to listening to/watching the VOs and enjoying them immensely. I skipped them probably through levels 1-17 or so but now I am watching them and having a ball. I only hit the spacebar on occasion when some of the speeches have longer than normal delays between switching to the next line of dialog (and I don't need to watch my ship blasting off every time of course).
Speaking of the ship, while the space combat is very 'lightweight' I enjoy just being on the ship itself. An annoying protocol droid yammering on, my companion doing something or other and just the general ability to 'be there'.
*shrug* I knew I would like this game. I didn't know I was going to love it. Already planning my 3rd and 4th characters and looking forward to every moment.
I figured the Early Access would be my make or break as well, but I narrowly decided to stay, broke open my copy of the game that arrived in the mail a couple days ago and applied the code.
Is it a great MMO? I currently don't think it's great, too many flaws that conspire to drag things down, but overall, it;s a good MMO.
Between Beta and Early access, I played five classes and it wasn't until the fifth that I found one that I really enjoy playing, because it "feels right" and fits my playstyle. I think a major flaw of the game is how much the first ten levels really drags for most classes. I was determined to keep trying classes until I found what I liked, but it became harder and harder to face the boring opening 10 for each character I rolled. It's a shame, because many people will be beaten down by the tedium before they ever find something the really enjoy playing.
The game does start to open up and get better once you hit level 14 and beyond. I enjoy the Space Combat mini-game and try to do a few warzones each day as well. The crafting is pretty good and it's cool that your minions do the grunt work for you.
I'm still engaged in the story, but when leveling alts with some shared content, I did fast forward through a lot of the stuff I had heard before. Sometimes I didn't, though, because some of the stories were worth being engaged in.
I hate the difficulty finding groups. The game needs more robust match making features. I'm fairly displeased with the look of a lot of the player armors, but managed to find Orange Modifiable armor for both characters I plan on continuing play with that I'm happy with. I hate that there is boss camping and that another player showing up doing the same quest as you can often cause things to drag out much longer than otherwise. (I hate MMOs that punish you for playing in proximity to other players).
There are some very annoying UI bugs that just should not be in a released game. (Ui buttons disappearing, group bars that are more often than not completely innacurate, which makes healing an even bigger pain, etc...)
Generally, the higher level I've gotten with a character, the more I've liked the game, but, unfortunately, the classes are not well balanced and are not equally fun to play, so players may have to be persistent in order to find the fun here. I'm hopeful that my impressions of the game will continue to improve as I get furthr out into the galaxy and experience more of what the game has to offer.
I'm having fun, but it's also frustrating to have the game weghed down by it's flaws. Also, IMO, the entire first 10+ levels part of the game should never have seen the light of day in it's current state. It serves up a mediocre first impression that makes the game seem much less than it is. AE/Bioware would have been well served dalaying the launch window to mid-2012 in order to completely revamp the introductory play experience. I had less a sense of dread and loathing creating my 20th WoW toon, than I have had creating my 2nd, 3rd or 4th TOR toon, just because the opening game, for me, is just too boring and tedious.
Anyway, that's my comment on the Early Access and my take on the game.
I'm a little worried that there will be a lot of people like the OP for whom 8 days was just enough time to leave a bad impression, but not enough to get past high doses of tedium and into a more fulfilling game experience. I guess we'll have to see how retention looks once the servers come back up only with people who registered a retail code for the game and again at the end of the first free month. The game has oodles of potential, but it's flaws are also working against it.
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I guess you doing none of the heroics, all heroics(4) require groups. Also dont understand your find a group thing, I Have never ever waited more then 2-5 minutes. It works like this. I need group I post in general, I form group and go.
So times were short a person do you know what we do, we bring out a companion to tank or off heal.
I am having a blast with my bounty hunter. The VO I hae not gotten bored with and some make me laugh my ass off. The issue you have is you played 8 days straight. I dont think I have played any game 8 days straight and wanted more, I like to take breaks usualy play every other day.
Anyway I am having a blast sorry your not.
GZ on getting to 18, you almost entered the real world, nice review for a tutorial area !!
Having to not have fun in order to have fun later on.. isn't a very good idea for a game
..Cake..
Only MMO I know of where people call most of the zones in the game starter areas.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
How many MMO's out there really push their MMO portions of the game (like raids, dungeons, world pvp) in teh first 20 or so levels? Hardly none. Most MMO's give you a taste of grouping and a taste of world pvp and a taste of other "mmo features" but most of the first 20 levels is about YOUand getting to know the world and characters.
SO people like you complaining about "lac of MMO" features, or otherrs that say "there is no end game", just stop already. Because you ahvent played the game enough to be considered "informed" on such features.
thats cool.....isn;t that a kobold from DAOC in your avatar?
I thought the first 18 levels were pretty fun. As a amattter of fact, due to the story and the bioware touch, leveling characters up thru the early levels has been the more fun in this game then any other I played.
Yeah, DAoC (Pre-ToA) was my favorite MMO, and my main was a kobold warrior
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.