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SatariousSatarious Member UncommonPosts: 1,073

Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

 

http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

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  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197

    Or all those recruiting posts on the SWTOR forums probably help...

    I like how you dislike "the haters" i.e. EVERYONE that doesn't like the game.. but recruiting members for SWTOR crusades is ok ;)

    It's a good game if you like the same gameplay done for the Nth time... let's leave it at that.

    ..Cake..

  • PieRadPieRad Member Posts: 1,108

    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    Yep, and as others have said before, the majority of the ones who really like this game, are in it and playing it, that leaves sites like this with the haters, a shame, since they might in some cases scare off people who would otherwise have enjoyed this beaut.

     

    Just try it, don't listen to anyone else, they can't decide for you, they are biased.

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  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197

    Originally posted by Beazt

    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    Yep, and as others have said before, the majority of the ones who really like this game, are in it and playing it, that leaves sites like this with the haters, a shame, since they might in some cases scare off people who would otherwise have enjoyed this beaut.

    Erm.. doesn't a topic like this defeat exactly what you said? :)

    ..Cake..

  • SatariousSatarious Member UncommonPosts: 1,073

    Originally posted by sgel

    Originally posted by Beazt


    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    Yep, and as others have said before, the majority of the ones who really like this game, are in it and playing it, that leaves sites like this with the haters, a shame, since they might in some cases scare off people who would otherwise have enjoyed this beaut.

    Erm.. doesn't a topic like this defeat exactly what you said? :)

    Not really.  Because it would be lik 9.9 if every single player in the game came out to vote.  Lol!

  • PieRadPieRad Member Posts: 1,108

    Originally posted by sgel

    Originally posted by Beazt


    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    Yep, and as others have said before, the majority of the ones who really like this game, are in it and playing it, that leaves sites like this with the haters, a shame, since they might in some cases scare off people who would otherwise have enjoyed this beaut.

    Erm.. doesn't a topic like this defeat exactly what you said? :)

    Not really, since there will always be a few of those of us who likes the game, that still likes to check forums.

    I didn't say that all who likes the game aren't here, I said the majority of those who likes the game.

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  • gandalesgandales Member UncommonPosts: 472

    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    This sounds more like a political campaign. I thought elections were next year. Waiting on the exit polls

  • SatariousSatarious Member UncommonPosts: 1,073

    Originally posted by gandales

    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    This sounds more like a political campaign. I thought elections were next year. Waiting on the exit polls

    Well, at least we don't have to worry about pregnant and hanging chads. ;)

  • tkoreapertkoreaper Member UncommonPosts: 412

    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    This discussion is pointless.... More people are going to give a positive rating because they like it versus someone going and down rating it. There's tons of games I don't like... doesn't mean I seek out every site that has a rating and down rate it. People that actually like the game, or at least want to see it have success are the ones more likely to do this.

    By the way, go and actually read the ratings... A lot of them are purely over-rated. 

    "This game has it's high and lows, but I like it" - 10 out of 10!

  • SupersoupsSupersoups Member Posts: 1,004

    Originally posted by tkoreaper

    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    This discussion is pointless.... More people are going to give a positive rating because they like it versus someone going and down rating it. There's tons of games I don't like... doesn't mean I seek out every site that has a rating and down rate it. People that actually like the game, or at least want to see it have success are the ones more likely to do this.

    By the way, go and actually read the ratings... A lot of them are purely over-rated. 

    "This game has it's high and lows, but I like it" - 10 out of 10!

    And what about 0 out of the 10's because they are giving veyr reasonable explanations? however this us vs them nonsense started from Metacritic. If people had been reasonable to begin with and didn't bombarded metacritic with 0 scores you wouldn't see this pissing contest. Now all fans are out of woodworks and givign it 10 just to balance out the negative ones.

    So yeah i blame those who couldn't control their rage and started giving SWTOR zero scores. They could have been mature instead they acted as if someone 'stole their sweet roll' (yeah i had to say that lol).

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  • tkoreapertkoreaper Member UncommonPosts: 412

    Originally posted by Supersoups

    Originally posted by tkoreaper


    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    This discussion is pointless.... More people are going to give a positive rating because they like it versus someone going and down rating it. There's tons of games I don't like... doesn't mean I seek out every site that has a rating and down rate it. People that actually like the game, or at least want to see it have success are the ones more likely to do this.

    By the way, go and actually read the ratings... A lot of them are purely over-rated. 

    "This game has it's high and lows, but I like it" - 10 out of 10!

    And what about 0 out of the 10's because they are giving veyr reasonable explanations? however this us vs them nonsense started from Metacritic. If people had been reasonable to begin with and didn't bombarded metacritic with 0 scores you wouldn't see this pissing contest. Now all fans are out of woodworks and givign it 10 just to balance out the negative ones.

    So yeah i blame those who couldn't control their rage and started giving SWTOR zero scores. They could have been mature instead they acted as if someone 'stole their sweet roll' (yeah i had to say that lol).

    I think the people who were clearly over-hyping the game before it was even in beta testing are the ones to blame. It cause those that didn't think so highly of the game to come out of the woodwork and give their opinions and now that the game has finally released all those people that dislike the game are coming out and saying "I told you so!"

     

    Btw... there are no 0 out of 10s. I think it'd be safe to assume that if you took all the votes that are 9.5+ and lower than 4 you'd find the real rating and remove the pure hype and pure hatred from the ratings.

  • potapithikospotapithikos Member Posts: 178

    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    Hey, it's ok. Your beloved game is a flop, we still love you, it's going to be ok.

  • SupersoupsSupersoups Member Posts: 1,004

    Originally posted by tkoreaper

    Originally posted by Supersoups


    Originally posted by tkoreaper


    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    This discussion is pointless.... More people are going to give a positive rating because they like it versus someone going and down rating it. There's tons of games I don't like... doesn't mean I seek out every site that has a rating and down rate it. People that actually like the game, or at least want to see it have success are the ones more likely to do this.

    By the way, go and actually read the ratings... A lot of them are purely over-rated. 

    "This game has it's high and lows, but I like it" - 10 out of 10!

    And what about 0 out of the 10's because they are giving veyr reasonable explanations? however this us vs them nonsense started from Metacritic. If people had been reasonable to begin with and didn't bombarded metacritic with 0 scores you wouldn't see this pissing contest. Now all fans are out of woodworks and givign it 10 just to balance out the negative ones.

    So yeah i blame those who couldn't control their rage and started giving SWTOR zero scores. They could have been mature instead they acted as if someone 'stole their sweet roll' (yeah i had to say that lol).

    I think the people who were clearly over-hyping the game before it was even in beta testing are the ones to blame. It cause those that didn't think so highly of the game to come out of the woodwork and give their opinions and now that the game has finally released all those people that dislike the game are coming out and saying "I told you so!"

     

    Btw... there are no 0 out of 10s.

    I am talking about metacritic..there way too many 0 out of 10. Yes SWTOR doesn't deserve 10 but it doesn't deserve 0 too but all these ratings are not about ratings anymore but a pissing contest between those who hate and like the game.

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  • dreamsofwardreamsofwar Member Posts: 468

    Its great news that the game is getting better reviews now its had a chance to grow on people. However, forums never have been a real representation of what the majority feel about the game, you'll probably find that the select few on the forums are the ones complaining whilst everyone else, aka that 1 million plus, are in the game having fun. Heres hoping anyway! 

  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159

    Originally posted by Supersoups

    So yeah i blame those who couldn't control their rage and started giving SWTOR zero scores. They could have been mature instead they acted as if someone 'stole their sweet roll' (yeah i had to say that lol).

     

    I think the whole bit about people giving TOR zeros has been greatly exaggerated.  Even on Metacritic, a site notorious for 0s and 10s, I see a lot more scores between 1 and 5 than zero.  On this board, when I've said that I'd rate TOR a 6, I still get called a troll, as if I were saying it's a zero, and it makes me wonder if people are seeing any negativity as that sort of extreme hate - and then going on campaigns to stomp it out with 10s.

     

    Gamespot is like that with a lot of games, though.  I'm sure there are exceptions, but for the most part, I've noticed that unless a game is as bad as Stronghold 3, people give lots of 9s and 10s.  Not sure why.

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • zevianzevian Member UncommonPosts: 403

    But not on this website, if your a hater your a good if you portray an ounce of positivity they eat you.    The cesspit of Mmo gaming website right here,   and its courtesy of the runaway community. (if you call a bunch of whiney negative people community)  shame on the moderators for allowing it to get so bad.

  • SupersoupsSupersoups Member Posts: 1,004

    Originally posted by Vhaln

    Originally posted by Supersoups

    So yeah i blame those who couldn't control their rage and started giving SWTOR zero scores. They could have been mature instead they acted as if someone 'stole their sweet roll' (yeah i had to say that lol).

     

    I think the whole bit about people giving TOR zeros has been greatly exaggerated.  Even on Metacritic, a site notorious for 0s and 10s, I see a lot more scores between 1 and 5 than zero.  On this board, when I've said that I'd rate TOR a 6, I still get called a troll, as if I were saying it's a zero, and it makes me wonder if people are seeing any negativity as that sort of extreme hate - and then going on campaigns to stomp it out with 10s.

     

    Gamespot is like that with a lot of games, though.  I'm sure there are exceptions, but for the most part, I've noticed that unless a game is as bad as Stronghold 3, people give lots of 9s and 10s.  Not sure why.

    Giving SWTOR a 0 or 1 is as bad as giving it a 10. Hate the game all you like but 1 or 2 scores? come on. And if you give 5 to SWTOR on metacritic it is counted as an average score. Now compare that average to amount of 10 and 0's..no surprise there.

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  • Sourd420Sourd420 Member Posts: 63

    Originally posted by Satarious

    Originally posted by sgel


    Originally posted by Beazt


    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    Yep, and as others have said before, the majority of the ones who really like this game, are in it and playing it, that leaves sites like this with the haters, a shame, since they might in some cases scare off people who would otherwise have enjoyed this beaut.

    Erm.. doesn't a topic like this defeat exactly what you said? :)

    Not really.  Because it would be lik 9.9 if every single player in the game came out to vote.  Lol!

    You definitly have never seen the  customer service web forum or general forums on their website if u think its goin to get a 9.9. A university did a study that showed around 1000 show the same view as 1 poster on a site. Considering you have to be playing to be posting says alot imo, but again that's imo, and not yours.

  • NitthNitth Member UncommonPosts: 3,904


    Originally posted by Satarious
    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.
     
    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    There's clearly a sizable about of people that dislike this game if you had to write a post about them being crushed.

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  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159

    Originally posted by Supersoups

    Originally posted by Vhaln

     

    I think the whole bit about people giving TOR zeros has been greatly exaggerated.  Even on Metacritic, a site notorious for 0s and 10s, I see a lot more scores between 1 and 5 than zero.  On this board, when I've said that I'd rate TOR a 6, I still get called a troll, as if I were saying it's a zero, and it makes me wonder if people are seeing any negativity as that sort of extreme hate - and then going on campaigns to stomp it out with 10s.

     

    Gamespot is like that with a lot of games, though.  I'm sure there are exceptions, but for the most part, I've noticed that unless a game is as bad as Stronghold 3, people give lots of 9s and 10s.  Not sure why.

    Giving SWTOR a 0 or 1 is as bad as giving it a 10. Hate the game all you like but 1 or 2 scores? come on. And if you give 5 to SWTOR on metacritic it is counted as an average score. Now compare that average to amount of 10 and 0's..no surprise there.

     

    That's standard on Metacritic, though.  People rate based on how everyone else is rating, and on that site, 1-4 means you don't like the game.  It doesn't mean it's an unplayable coaster.  It's all relative - when people see that ratings are always between 6 and 9, they'll treat it as a scale of 6-9, with 6 being the lowest, unless they're really angry about the game being broken or something.  

     

    When they see ratings go all the way from 0-10, with people actually using the entire scale, they'll do the same, and rate lower if they don't like it.  Like 1-4, instead of a 5 or 6.  It's not really that crazy, IMHO.

     

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195

    Originally posted by tkoreaper

    Originally posted by Supersoups


    Originally posted by tkoreaper


    Originally posted by Satarious

    Just yesterday, the average "user score" on Gamespot was 7.8.  It jumped up to 8.8 as of right now.  It just goes to show that as more and more people try this game, the haters become more and more marginalized.  It really is a well put together game.  What the hate boils down to is the fact that this game is an extremely well made theme park rather than their preferred sandbox.

     

    http://www.gamespot.com/star-wars-the-old-republic/platform/pc

    This discussion is pointless.... More people are going to give a positive rating because they like it versus someone going and down rating it. There's tons of games I don't like... doesn't mean I seek out every site that has a rating and down rate it. People that actually like the game, or at least want to see it have success are the ones more likely to do this.

    By the way, go and actually read the ratings... A lot of them are purely over-rated. 

    "This game has it's high and lows, but I like it" - 10 out of 10!

    And what about 0 out of the 10's because they are giving veyr reasonable explanations? however this us vs them nonsense started from Metacritic. If people had been reasonable to begin with and didn't bombarded metacritic with 0 scores you wouldn't see this pissing contest. Now all fans are out of woodworks and givign it 10 just to balance out the negative ones.

    So yeah i blame those who couldn't control their rage and started giving SWTOR zero scores. They could have been mature instead they acted as if someone 'stole their sweet roll' (yeah i had to say that lol).

    I think the people who were clearly over-hyping the game before it was even in beta testing are the ones to blame. It cause those that didn't think so highly of the game to come out of the woodwork and give their opinions and now that the game has finally released all those people that dislike the game are coming out and saying "I told you so!"

     

    Btw... there are no 0 out of 10s. I think it'd be safe to assume that if you took all the votes that are 9.5+ and lower than 4 you'd find the real rating and remove the pure hype and pure hatred from the ratings.

     

    The point is.. its a game of counterbalance... as it is here with the hype meter..  Some people rate something a 10 because they like it, others rate it a 0 or 1 because they don't like it... theres no scale.. no middle ground, and anyone in between just gets washed out - and the in between is honestly where all games are.

     

    SWTOR isn't a bad game.. ratings shouldn't even really come into play in my opinion... when deciding whether the game is "good" or "bad"  its simply a deal of is the game right for you....  Saying you didn't like it is one thing,  but these rating sites are a little misleading.... by people saying they didn't like it.. it gives the game a much worse rating then the game deserves.

     

    I'm not saying everyone has to like it... but honestly,  look at it... play it... its put together amazingly well,  has relatively low amounts of bugs,  has tons of multiplayer content,  lots of BioWare styled story content...   but it often falls prey to people who just don't want to admit that the game is good, even if it isn't what they want, or if it doesn't appeal to them.....  ... and thats quite a few of the played out forum complainers.  In a perfect world,  those that weren't interested or didn't like the game would just not vote or write about it.. as most of the people writing poor user reviews likely haven't played the game much at all.... or at least not the live release of it.



  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159

    That's why I wonder if a simple "thumbs up / thumbs down" system would be better.  No more arguing about the numerical value of how much people like the game.  Some people think 3 is perfectly valid for saying the game is mediocre.  Others think that's absurd and think 6 should be mediocre.  Neither is right or wrong, but they do muck up the rating system if people are basically rating on entirely different scales.

     

    A simple measure of how many people like a game vs how many people don't, would be just as accurate, when you average it out.

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • CrosswireCrosswire Member UncommonPosts: 264

    Basically the same group of trolls infest most MMO forums with intent on putting people off from buying/subscribing.

    But this time they are going to fail, they are themselves, epic fails.  

  • MadragonMadragon Member UncommonPosts: 42

    I normally don't get involved in these types of debates.   But I will say this is not the type of game I traditionally want.  (Same can be said about WOW)  I played UO, SWG and EVE at release.  I prefer the sandbox type of game.  But I will not bash a good theme park MMO, just because it is a theme park or because it is not the game I want.  I will just ride the rides a few times and when I get bored move on.  Or if the rides are designed nice I  ride them for a few years. (Ex WOW)   

     

    Edit:

    That being said I give this game a 8.0 out of a scale of 1-10.   

  • obiiobii Member UncommonPosts: 804

    Why would people that don't play rate the game?

    It sounds a wee bit paranoid

    :P

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