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Wired #1 Skyrim
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Ok i can agree on that maybe Skyrim is best this year?... but The Witcher 2 on place #19 in this list rediculous.
Becouse i a huge fan of Skyrim i still dont deny it have prolly one of most bugs in the game in this whole list( i gues offcorse but you know what i mean)Zelda is prolly alot more polished then Skyrim its also very strange that Zelda is almost always second?
Im realy starting to believe all these best game of the year awards are just corrupted bought by publishers who pay the most.
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Skyrim use to be fun, until I leveled blacksmithing and enchanting...
I also found a gamebreaking bug in the main storyline (I can't advance)...was seeing how well the game was without patching or mods
Looks like I'll update it and try a new character...
I just uninstalled Skyrim 2 min ago. I did not like that game at all.
they really need to remove blacksmithing and echanting from the game. it breaks it.
it really is a stunningly beautiful game if you play it on the PC,. the world is alive, npc interact with eachother, chatting fighting ect ect. they go to bed at night and wake uo in the morning.
game needs work like all game, but it is the best of the best right now. there is over 200+ hours of content, if you do all the quests.
best value for your money in a long time. well worth the price
Judging by your sig, you dont like many games and are just too picky.
Why without patching? And why would you abandon your character just to patch and start a new one? That's ridiculous.
Patches fix things. They don't change the content of the game or the experience you would have had otherwise (with exception of making it better). When you patch it, you should be able to continue (or load a slightly earlier save file, which you should have several of), and things should work.
No one is forcing you to level those 2. Do what many have done, just get far enough in those trees to make whichever spec you chose, then stop. If you get them too high too quick it can unbalance a little bit.
This was a good list. I don't think Zelda deserves the number one spot because it really didn't do anything to raise the bar or engage the public the way Skyrim managed to. Skyward Sword was a game- a really good game, true- but Skyrim was an experience. As for the rest I basically have to agree. I'm glad Gemini Rue got put up there, adventure games don't get much love these days.
If you manage to get ANY skills above 70 before you beat the game, you're overleveled. Because there really isn't much you can do with crafting skills before that point which "breaks" the game, I don't see how it's a problem. Just because you can make superpowered weapons once you hit level 60 doesn't mean the game is unbalanced, as the difficulty curve is no longer a concern at that point.
Most players probably didn't even bother with those two skills anyways because they were so useless to start with and boring to level up...
Hadn't played one on the list but then I've been mostly playing mmo's since 1996. I am curious about skyrim but I think I'll wait for the free download. (j/k).
I don't see why people don't like blacksmithing. I got 100 blacksmithing on my orc berserker. I loved every second of leveling it. Enchanting is a little different. Getting some of the good enchantments can be a pain, and the whole soul thing is annoying. My war axe gets refilled, but in 3 hours it's empty again lol...they need to make enchanting last longer.
The list seems a little out of order if you ask me, and there's a couple of games that shouldn't even be in the top 100. Some games are completely missing.
Top 5 should be:
1. Battlefield 3
The battle still rages which is better, BF3 or CoD...I don't know why. BF3 can do so much more, and looks so much better than CoD. I can play CoD for an hour, pop in Black Ops, and not even notice that much of a difference. I COMPLETELY SUCK AT FPS GAMES, but I still have a blast in BF3. I might end a round with a k/d ratio below .10 lol, but it's still fun as heck! In CoD, I can run around all melee people and junk, and get 50-1 lol...fun the first couple of times, but boring quick.
2. Skyward Sword
What can I say...it's Zelda! Probably the best Zelda since the first or ocarina, depending on your taste.
3. Batman: Arkham City
This game is pretty amazing. It hits all the points everyone judges games by, graphics, sound, gameplay, story. It has it all!
4. Skyrim
This would probably be first if it wasn't for bugs. I still love this game, and have a blast to this day, but I only knock it because of the bugs...oh and the UI on PC version is pretty bad, although I only got to play it for a couple of hours on PC.
5. TLOZ: Ocarina of Time 3D
I'm probably biased by this, but I'm a Zelda zealot (fanboi just doesn't come close to describing my Zelda love). Nintendo took one of my favorite two games ever made, improved the graphics and made it 3d...If I hadn't ever played it before, it'd probably be number 1 on my list.
P.S. Dark Souls would probably be 6th. Great game
Yes, the likes of Wadjet Eye Games, Halfbrick, Xseed, and Epic Games are all bribing this one video game reviewer. Or, you know, he could just be trying to incorporate a wide variety of games, including games for hand held devices like the PSP, DS and even the Ipad/Iphone. Rather than just throw them all in at the very end as afterthoughts, he incorporated them throughout his list.
Now Witcher 2 would probably fall at #3 for me on the year (behind Skyrim and Portal 2), but that's my personal list, as his top 20 is his. I've also only played 8 of the 20 he listed, so I can't really have a say on the other 12 and how they stack up against the games I've played.
nothing wrong with blacksmithing, it forces you to make some hard choices IMO. the primary flaw is enchanting and alchemy. some aspects of enchanting needed to be toned down,(free casting 2 or 3 schools of magic is just wrong) and alchemy almost needed to be removed all together IMO. if you are drinking that many potions to need alchemy as a skill, you are doing something wrong to begin with.(not to mention the smithing/enchanting exploits involved with alchemy)
For those complaining about blacksmithing and enchanting, you can try what I did.
I am using PISE (Improved Skyrim Experience Mod), Elys Uncapper, and Enhanced Perks.
PISE
for better game challenge
Elys Uncapper
So I could train skills past 100 (I set mine to 150)
So I could change the experience gained by skills (smithing/enchanting 0.25 only, combat skills 0.5, and pickpocket 0.75)
After testing I can potentially reach lvl124 with this mod
Enhanced Perks
So I could modify the perks I receive (1 perk til lvl 20, 2 til lvl 40, 3 til lvl 60, 4 til lvl 80, and 5 onwards)
I know it looks like a cheat, but with my changes above, it is very hard especially with higher difficulty settings (I play at expert level). The enhanced perks mod make me feel rewarded whenever I level up (especially if you can grind up to lvl 30+, which in Morrowind days, was already considered god-like pre-Tribunal patch)
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Are you saying The Witcher 2 should be higher on the list or not on the list? I just got it for $15 bucks on Amazon(well it is 19.99 but I had a $5 promo code from my DEHR purchase that I used with it),so hopefully you are saying it should be higher on the list =p.
This is silly to me because to be an enchanter (enchanting is a primary skill, after all, now) then you need to enchant. Where do you draw the line in saying that an enchanter shouldn't be enchanting?
It's really poor design to include them with all of the other skillsets. Once enchanting becomes useful (~80 skill) it also becomes incredibly unbalanced and that's on top of a game already seemingly balanced on a thimble. The other two crafting skills suffer similarly, but not to the extent that enchanting does.
If anything, the lack of consistency between Bethesda's game systems shows that they're never going to be ready for a multiplayer game if they can't even adjust them to make sense in a controlled singleplayer enviornment. It really reflects poorly on them to not see these things through, I think.
I have a workaround for this (look at my post).
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Sadly the witcher 2 got boring fast.. so yeah 19 is a good place for it..
Tho that site has some dodgy suggestions for the top 20 hehe..
I'm very aware that mods are practically required to get Bethesda's games into the shape they should be in from the start. They should never be taken into account for reviews unless as an addendum that has no bearing on score, however. Two of the three platforms that the game launched on will never be able to change this.
It's why I'm waiting for the construction kit to really see some of the problems with Skyrim resolved (bugs be damned). A pity for those who don't have the patience that I do with Bethesda, though, and to those who chose other platforms. It's truly the modders who make these games for me now.
Are you saying The Witcher 2 should be higher on the list or not on the list? I just got it for $15 bucks on Amazon(well it is 19.99 but I had a $5 promo code from my DEHR purchase that I used with it),so hopefully you are saying it should be higher on the list =p.
The witcher 2 in some ways beats Skyrim hands down.Graphically its a far better game and the story and how npcs react to you trumps Skyrim hands down.Skyrim is an good game but its wrong not to look at the bugs and see that the PC version is nothing more than a bad PC port.I have played 120 hours of the game and not once did the world pull you in like the witcher 2.Anyone who has not played both games cannot really say that skyrim is better until they have played both games.They are both RPG along with Dark Souls which imo is a far more better RPG than Skyrim,even though it is a dungeon crawler.just don't use it.
People need to learn to take advantage of or ignore certain things in this game.
For instance, I never use invisibility. Ever. Same in oblvion as it was game breaking to me.
I have no problem with enchanting or smithing but I recently came across some videos that basically describe how to make weapons that are beyond powerful.
Will I use it? no. It would be game breaking. I just use smithing and enchanting enough to make my charater better without making him over powerful. Otherwise people are making enchanted items to max alchemy and then upping the alchemy to up the enchanting, etc.
Players are their own worse enemies.
I've also started a nord character and will use smithing but will only have him wear Steel armor. I liked the skyrim promos with the nord in what seemed like very traditional armor. Just a regular nord eschewing magic of any type. It's harder but I like the challenge.
I'll max the steel armor as much as possible. In this way he won't wear anything that I feel a Nord might not wear such as Daedric. or overly anything enchanted.
As far as Skyrim over a game like The witcher? Tough call. I continually play skyrim and once again found that I couldn't get myself through a witcher game though there were things I loved about the newer witcher game. Not sure why. I'll have to revist The Witcher.
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I've rolled 6 different toons, beaten it with 2 of them. Melee centric at first, then sneaky archer type, then toying with magic. Blacksmithing and Enchanting don't break the game, as others mentioned. You get anything in the 70+ with enough perks selected, then you can plow through anything in the game. High Two Handed with perks? 3 words: Battleaxe Sweeping Attack. One Handed Dual-Wield or with Shields? How about high 1-Handed, Shield, Heavy Armor? High Sneak and Archery, esp. with Nightingale benefits? High Destruction, Conjuration, Restoration? High Conjuration, Restoration, with the help of a companion like Lydia? The old, equip fire resistance gear on your ally, use fire astronachs, and spam fireballs? The game has lots of nasty little routes a player can take. The joy is finding and choosing one, and making it work.
What balances out Enchanting & Blacksmithing is that to reap the REAL benefits of those perk trees, you have to dedicate a serious amount of perk points into them. Those are the perks that let you upgrade and get more enchant bonus points. The enchant bonus that *really* matters is the one that allows you to place 2 enchantments, and that's on the very top of the tree. In Blacksmithing, you can't get the full upgrade bonuses without unlocking the metal types for construction and better upgrades. You can't even upgrade Enchanted gear until you pick the Arcane perk, but you need 60.
Now, if you are going to reap the full benefits of both Enchantment and Blacksmithing early on or before beating the game, you are really giving up high end combat abilities. The trade off is that you are forsaking direct combat abilities and stats for having good gear to make up for it. If you already have a character that has both good combat skills / perks as well as blacksmithing / enchanting, it's high time to beat the game, retire the character unless you establish House Rules to play with that toon
Edit to add: You can beat the game at a pretty fairly early level, I've been doing it in the 30s, and I'm wagering others before that. My original did it with maxed smithing, very high enchanting, and so-so heavy armor, block, 1-handed. The majority of perks fell into Smithing and Enchanting. I did miss being able to have those nice bonuses and abilities associated with the direct combat perks, but again, I relied on legendary gear that I created and upgraded to see me through. You can do the same with a focus on combat skills, it's just the whole way of doing it is reversed.
If anything that needs to be a real challenge in the game should be the Dragons. Not just Alduin, but all of them, esp. those named ones or "Elder" ones. With any half-developed character and magic resistances, Dragons are easy. I don't mind Dragons being killable by mortals, but they need to be the terror to everyone like the legends say they were. Seeing a couple Whiterun Guards kill one is kind of disheartening. They could probably make Alduin bigger, IMO, since he is the "first."
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Still my best game of 2011 now ill wait a little for some good mods, played 260 houres so far so im on hold for now hehe.
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