Looking for a game with no classes or levels

Goken · August 2003

I'm so tired of role playing games that are completely class and level based, I can't take it any more. With all the brillions of games out now, there's bound to be one or two that are skill based. For example, one of my favorite games of all time is Betrayl at Krondor. In that game, you had a handful of skills and each went up based on how much you used it. I think if this was expanded upon to give greater experience to that skill based on if practice is under the supervision of an instructor or at least someone more skilled, and if the practice being done is new and challenging, this would be an awesome system for a MMORPG. I would also like a world that isn't completely based on killing things, but hey I can only dream about that I guess.

So any help from the experts on what's available?

KillerMcCoy · August 2003

From what I have read about Faces of Mankind there are no levels or classes but it is RPG/FPS. The RPG is that the game is heavily story driven with missions and an economy while it is twitch.

http://www.faceofmankind.com/index.php?page=home.php&lang=en

Check the game out and see if this is what you have been looking for.

FaeryShivers · August 2003

Its too bad Elancia's English project was scrappped the only thing you gained levels in was "weapon levels " and "skill levels" I kind of miss that game ;_;

Goken · August 2003

I looked into the Faces of Mankind, and even signed up for the Beta *crosses fingers*. Thankyou very much for the suggestion. I would, however, much prefer a game with a fantasy setting, but anything that can break away from leveling up is a refreshing change. Any fantasy games like that out there?

TigerRei · August 2003

Just to let everyone know, it's Face of Mankind, not Faces :P

But the game is already looking to be very fun. No leveling treadmill, no skills to learn and lose. Heavily storybased, so this game will be a roleplayer's dream.

Rasuke · August 2003

Originally posted by FaeryShivers

Its too bad Elancia's English project was scrappped the only thing you gained levels in was "weapon levels " and "skill levels" I kind of miss that game ;_;

I was playing that once, it did have classes. But it required a certain weapon skill level to get it. All you had to do was go to the church and say some command and poof, you're a new class.

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Rare · August 2003

I think levelling sucks too (reminds me too much of my endless hours of trying to perfect myself on FFVII). I went to check out Face of Mankind, and it does look like an interesting game, and the lack of levelling and a class system is refreshing because there aren't a lot of those games out there...

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Goken · August 2003

On Gunblade's suggestion, I looked into Realms of Torment, and was he ever right!! There was even a round tablke discussion where the lead designer talked at length about the short sightedness of most MMORPGs sticking to played out leveling treadmills. See:

http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/432/432071p2.html?fromint=1

When I looked at the game at the website, it seems very exciting indeed. Skills and not classes are what a character can work on, and there's possibilities for trading, mining, building of towns, and empires, and wars of all kinds!! I only hope the recommended 512M Ram isn't absolute, cause I've only got a weeny 256. Anyways, read all aboot it:

http://www.realmsoftorment.net/faq.html

Does anyone know of any games that have crept outside the mold like this that are already out?

Ozzon · August 2003

I looked closer into Realms of Torment and it seems that's it's still a leveling threadmill just like many other games.

I'm not saying that it's bad but when i compared Face of Mankind and Realms of Torment it seems that only FOMK offers a chance to have a real RPG in MMORPG, and much more fun because of that i guess.

teratya · August 2003

Ultima Online. Old but has what you asked for the most part.

Shots out!

Ozzon · August 2003

Yeah Ultima is a good game, my problem with it is that I need a game in 3D.

I think I'm addicted to 3D graphics, and all the 2D doesn't offer me so much fun anymore.

Serien · August 2003

i heard in planetside a level 1 can kill a level 50

Rare · August 2003

Goken: 512 recommended? That's a bit steep... I also only have 256

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Ozzon · August 2003

High requirements of 3D enviroment MMORPG's is the other story.

The biggest problem is that many of them have engines which actually need a lot of work after the game is being released.

Planetside needs a really good computer to work nicely with higher details from what i have seen during my free trial.

Serien · August 2003

so what r ur specs right now?

Ozzon · August 2003

Duron 1GHz, 512MB ram, G4 MX 440

teratya · August 2003

If your not looking for MMORPG check into Morrowind. You can make your own class, which means you can play virtually anything. I guess because it blurs the lines that define classes it may qualify what you are looking for. But I am pretty sure it has levels if I am not mistaken.

Shots out!

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